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    4-Play has been known for beauty queens, air dances, and upscale clientele. Here is what I experienced in a prime-time visit Saturday night.

    The air dances are meant to be air dances. They are not lap dances, but "table dances" with no contact. They are the only nude dances available at the club, and they cost $20 per song. The girls are strict about the no contact policy.

    The laps, on the other hand, are topless not nude. They are offered only in sets of 5. The 5 dances cost $150 on a couch and $200 on a "bed." The mileage is very low compared to an average Southern California lap, let alone a VIP set of laps. They call them VIP, but there aren't any non-VIP laps. You cannot try a dancer for one lap and then decide to go for a VIP. Given the low mileage, I wonder if this policy is an intentional business model.

    The biggest surprise for me was the quality of the dancers. Unless this night was WAY off, the club must have gone down significantly in this department. I saw many older dancers and many others that are average looking. I struggled to find a dancer that I would rate an 8. In my previous visits, the average girl was about the same as the best girl this time. The number of dancers has gone up, about two dozen girls this time compared to about a dozen last time (also a Saturday night), but the quality has gone markedly down, not only on average, but also for the upper tier.

    The stage was more elevated than it was last time, a bit too high in my opinion. A foot lower would make it more intimate. In their stage sets (which were two songs before 10:00 PM and one song after), 4 girls including 2 orientals didn't even bother take off their bottoms, and a couple of other girls just flashed the goodies at the end of the set.

    Finally, the clientele is indeed upscale, the club is elegant, and the staff is friendly and polished. The place seems to aspire for high roller types, and it may well deliver the illusion, but lacks the substance. The club was crowded, so they seem to be doing good business, but I didn't see too many people going upstairs for the VIPs.

    THE FUNDAMENTALS

    Dancer Looks: 7.5 (top three girls) , 6.5 (overall average)

    Stage Mileage: 6.0 (lighting) , 4.0 (nudity)

    Lap Mileage: 4.0

    Song Length: 3:30 (regular)

    Lap Cost: $150-$200 / 5 songs (topless)

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    Sounds like a good place to work. I wonder what the club gets per dance. Do they serve liquor there? Perhaps it will be a nice place for me to work a few days when I'm in LA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine
    Do they serve liquor there?
    No liquor in any nude clubs in Southern California.

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    Hey empelo,
    I see that you've been hitting clubs on the westside/airport area. Aside from BE (which I think you have decided to pass on), what other clubs are on your agenda???

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    Quote Originally Posted by lopaw
    Aside from BE (which I think you have decided to pass on), what other clubs are on your agenda???
    I am considering the Body Shop (nice club, nightmare parking) and Star Strip (used to be fun, went downhill, I haven't heard anything lately).

    I am also considering Ecstasy in OC (home of the $50 nude bed dances), and the infamous Tropical Lei to the East. I am not big on the chains (SR and DV), but I might sample them if I run out of ideas.

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    Default Re: 4 Play - West LA

    lopaw:

    There is a pink button at the bottom left of your posts that says you are female. I assume this is in error?

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    Quote Originally Posted by empelo
    lopaw:

    There is a pink button at the bottom left of your posts that says you are female. I assume this is in error?
    Ummmm.....you'd be suprised at how many chicks like to see swingin titties too!!! Its 2005 brother!

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    ^ Kat, you're the best.

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    empelo,
    It's no error. I'm a regular club-goer that happens to be female.
    I've been going to the LAX area clubs for a few years now.....my main haunt nowadays is The Goose, where they know me pretty well.

    Looking forward to more of your reviews.....

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    lopaw:

    Thank you for your reply. I am glad you are enjoying the clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by empelo
    I am considering the Body Shop (nice club, nightmare parking)
    No Body Shop for me. Posters on another board reported that the stage is pitch dark, which is a no-no for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine
    Sounds like a good place to work. I wonder what the club gets per dance. Do they serve liquor there? Perhaps it will be a nice place for me to work a few days when I'm in LA.
    When I used to work here, the club get's $5 from every $20 dance the girls do, which is quite fair, and about 20-25% of the VIP cost.

    I have never worked for a club with better management or security, btw, very very professional and friendly. I encourage girls to work there if they are in that area of LA b/c money is still good while many other LA clubs are suffering right now.

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    There was a significant improvement in 4Play compared to my previous visit. In that visit, the lineup was mediocre and the lap mileage was very poor. This time, the lineup was quite impressive; the best I have seen in Southern California all summer. Also, there was decent lap mileage this time. Finally! Don't get your hopes up, though. The mileage is still below par for this town, but it's getting there.

    I clarified the contact rules for the downstairs dances. By policy (and practice), there is no contact in the $40 nude dances. There is contact, however, in the $20 topless dances. At $20 per 3:30-minute song, and with the quality of the dancers here, this is a very good deal. Someone mentioned that the girls keep 75% of the money, which may explain why they are cool about it.

    The place was packed. Admission was $15 with no discounts on weekend nights, valet parking was $4.75, and the drink was $6.50. Distinctly upscale clientele with some high-roller types. This time I saw more people getting dances, including some going upstairs for the VIP 5-song sets.

    I wish the main stage was nearly as well lit as the side stage, which was open only briefly. Anyway, the girls did one-dance sets, and most of them did a good job. I generally prefer two-dance sets, but there were too many girls I guess (about 25, mostly blonde and oriental). Five of the girls didn't really belong, and I think it would have been better if they weren't there.

    The staff in this club is as friendly and professional as it gets. This has always been the case, but it is worth noting. It makes your visit that much more fun.

    Any negative points? Yes. Four dancers kept their bottoms on for the entire dance on the main stage. The 4Play ads have an "All Nude" banner. Nude means nude, not topless, and this should be enforced by the club as a matter of professionalism. It was the only damper in an otherwise great visit.


    THE FUNDAMENTALS

    Dancer Looks: 8.5 (top three girls) , 7.5 (overall average)

    Stage Mileage: 6.5 (lighting) , 6.0 (nudity)

    Lap Mileage: 6.0

    Song Length: 3:30 (regular)

    Lap Cost: $20 per song , $150/$200 per 5 songs (topless)

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