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    Hi everyone. I have just started dancing but what worries me the most is the bitchiness and politics among the other dancers. I feel rather intimidated and they aren't very friendly or approachable...they almost snarl at me.

    What concerns me the most is knowing whether I am taking a customer away from them. Before they hit the stage, they may have warmed the customer up and I'm afraid of over stepping the invisible boundaries. And being totally unaware of this, could possibly take one of the dancers' clients away from them and get on the wrong side of them.

    I hate confrontation and try to avoid it as much as possible. Does anyone have any helpful ideas to help me with this? Thanks in advance.
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    Rule to always remember...... Nobody is just one dancers customer. Custys may come in frequently to see one particular dancer and if they do the custy will tell you they are not interested, but just as goes for human nature, we all need change from time to time..... Let the custy decide, not the dancer... But since you are a new dancer, NEVER go sit at a table that another dancer is sitting at unless she or the custy ask you to join them. Also, if you see a dancer sitting there for a while and then go on stage, thats basically a back off situation as well unless the dancer goes elsewhere after exiting the stage.
    Some people are like slinkies, not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs!!

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    yea as a customer, I can tell you girls will capitalize on any oppertunity, as they should! If a dancer has warmed a guy up correctly, he'll wait, and he'll ask you politely to pass. Don't even let it bother you.
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    It always cracks me up as a dj, when the girls get mad that a customer finds a new intrest. "that B**** stole 'my' Customer!" is commonly herd around my club and the best way to deal with it is to realize that all of you girls are doing the same thing, trying to make money. So from now on dont go to work and think about who might get pissed off if "Bob" or whatever his name is, buys a dance from you, and dont get mad when John, your 3 year long customer buys a dance from that new girl, but think of it as a job and not a social carnival. You dont go to work to make friends but to make money.

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    Thanks for the advice. The other night this dancer decided to cut in on me when I was talking to the customer...I don't know whether she had already warmed him up or not...it's pretty hard when you're new trying to learn the ropes and look around you at the same time. If she hadn't already warmed him up, then I consider her to have bad manners.
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    There is this girl at my club that has always felt like she came before everyone else because she makes so much money and she thinks her shit doesn't stink....... On more than one occasion she has come up to where I was sitting at and taken off with the customer.... One night when she did this the customer left with her, and then came back after two songs, said he apologized for her horrid behavior, took me in the back and got one dance and then handed me $100.00. The customers will see this, and you will wind up winning in the end!
    Some people are like slinkies, not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs!!

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    It's so nice when it works out that way, the customer comes back to you. Sometimes i'm not sure whether to be nice or nasty to the other dancers. Afterall, they snarl at me when I'm trying to be nice.

    It can be very humiliating too when dancers take off with the customer, like you sit there feeling like an idiot half the time not knowing whether to defend yourself or know that karma has its ways.

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    Hey Sharee,

    I think you should not get nasty, or be too nice... stand your ground... Just pretend you don't hear, see them...

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    Sharee--

    IF a girl tries to cut in on a custy you are working, use body language to block her. Put you hand on the guy's shoulder or neck, or physically move your body to cut her off. If she walked away from him and he is not waiting for her, then he is fair game.

    DO NOT believe what the girls tell you about having "warmed up" a custy. This is a person we are talking aboput, not an oven that needs to be pre-heated! The truth is, if she did not close the sale before she walked away from the customer, then she did not close the sale. That would be HER porblem, not yours. (The exception would be somebody who was caled up on stage in the middle of her pitch. But if Mr. Custy REALLY wanted her back, he woudl tell you he is waiting for her, so don't be too concerned there, either.)

    Don't worry about whether these girls like you or want to be your friends. This is work. Make friends somewhere else. Just keep your stuff secure and let the chips fall where they may.


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    ^ Totally agree with Colleen (love the oven bit)!!

    It's much better if you can create a "connection" with a customer...like Colleen suggested, by putting your arm around him...snuggling into him...if you're comfy, sitting on his lap. It sends a non-verbal cue to other dancers that he's "taken" for the time being and it also sends a message to the customer that you're "interested". Customers who "feel a connection" will not be as easy to steal away as the customers who feel like you are just passing time with them.

    This also raises another bit: You should not be sitting around gabbing with the customer for 20 minutes before you ask them if they want a dance. Sit down, snuggle, do your bit and then ask them for a dance. You shouldn't wait more than 1 or 2 songs for this. That way, you'll find out very quickly if the customer is interested in spending money on you at that time or if it's time to move on. There's no reason that you should waste 20 minutes of your time on each customer, if they are not going to buy a dance/VIP.

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    Thanks a million girls for your help. Boy gee, am I a virgin to all this. So much to learn...! I know, it takes time and i'm being too impatient. I'm thinking of taking a bit of a break from the club as i've sort of been thrown into the deep end and don't know how i feel.

    A bit of soul searching for me at this stage.
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    hey sharee --

    i just started dancing a few weeks ago, myself, and i have already had a similar experience. i was sitting with one customer (who is known for coming in and taking out $1000 cash advances & dispersing the money amongst the girls) after he had tipped me three $20s while on stage earlier, and had made an obvious point that he was interested in me. another girl walked over and stood right between us and stayed there for quite sometime, touching him and shaking her stuff in his face (he was pretty drunk at this point), the whole while with her back towards me -- mainly to avoid the glare i was icing her with, im pretty sure! but anyways, i was PISSED, to say the least! yeah, im new, but ive done my homework & ive tried to learn the do's & don'ts and proper etiquitte, you know?? i would never do such a thing to another girl & i don't care that i'm new, it doesn't deserve to be done to me.

    so, instead of confronting her, i spoke with the floor manager. he's an awesome guy, super helpful & friendly, someone i would definitely consider a friend -- so he calmed me down & told me that he would talk to her about it later, but not say that i told him. he brought it up by saying "so, i saw you interupt someone earlier this evening." apparently her response to this was "well, i've been here a lonnnng time.." and he basically broke it down for her that she wouldn't want it done to her, so don't do it to me! (or anyone else!)

    ugh!!

    so frustrating. but it's alright, because it's kinda become my new game to win over all her customers (fair & square) ! i already had another one following me around most of the night the day after that incident and even then, she walked past us super-slow & flashed him her tittie in the mirror! she thought i didn't see. tsk tsk.. .
    and i only call you darling 'cause i know how much you hate it
    and darling, some habits are so very hard to break --
    think condescension is sexy?
    well, that's your mistake to make.


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    I love that 'get even' stuff. I'm rebellious by nature, but at the moment i'm still feeling my way. I've never danced before...so learning the do's and don'ts, and being vigilant, etc takes quite a bit of energy.

    Good on you for standing your ground with that bitch! A good mind game. Glad to see you are still hanging in there after a month. I only have 4 hrs to my name so i'm still a baby, although 28 yrs of age hehe.
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