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    Default Now I'm sure that Hilary will run in '08 ...

    because she's distancing herself from liberals !

    "Dems aim to increase army size

    A team of Senate and House Democrats today are planning to introduce legislation today aimed at significantly increasing size of the U.S. Army.

    Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-Conn.), ranking member of the Senate Armed Services (SASC) airland subcommittee, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), a SASC member, and Reps. Ellen Tauscher (D-Calif.) and Mark Udall (D-Colo.), both members of the House Armed Services committee, are pressing for the passage of the United States Army Relief Act.

    The legislation seeks to raise the cap of the Army’s end strength, said an aide to Tauscher."(snip)

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    So since they are increasing the size of the Army, what does that mean? Like, do they need to recruit more people or what?

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    ^ There is a legal cap on the size of the army. They're looking to raise that number, which, considering what is being asked of the active divisions, is a good move.
    Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality, the costs become prohibitive.

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    This seems to be more simply removal of a contraining limit rather than preparation for a bid to the Democratic presidential nomination.

    Once the irrevocable decision is made to commit troops to a war, it would be wise to make sure you have enough troops to carry out the mission, rather than let the war widen well beyond the original plans. at least not so much larger scale than planned as to make it seem an unwise choice from the beginning. how readily would the American public have accepted war in Iraq if we had committed 330,000 troops from the initiation? Now it seems that we don't have enough trops to manage day-to-day operations, infrastructure repair, Irawqui policse and military training, border isolation, etc. We didn't get much help from the others we asked. Basically a lot of things went wrong.

    Hillary is very much a pragmatist and I sure think this is a pragmatic decision. My main question here is why this act is just now going thru the congress? Maybe they realize that the status quo is just not good enough.
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    Hillary is very much a pragmatist and I sure think this is a pragmatic decision. My main question here is why this act is just now going thru the congress? Maybe they realize that the status quo is just not good enough.
    Actually I can think of quite a few reasons.

    #1 the democrats have (temporarily at least) stopped filibustering judicial appointments thus allowing some actual Congressional business to get to the floor.

    #2 now that Hilary has 'officially' sanctioned the idea of a larger military, it has made the subject safe to talk about in terms of potential mainstream media attacks (i.e. the NY Times can't very well attack GWB and republican senators/congressmen for calling for an enlarged military without also attacking Hilary, which WON'T happen)

    #3 pragmatic decision on Hilary's part indeed, based on some recent poll results that show that while liberals strongly object to the use of US military in the war on terrorism, that the vast majority of republican and many (not all the way liberal) democratic registered voters do indeed support stronger military efforts. I'm sure that the timing of this announcement vs the London terrorist bombings wasn't a pure coincidence either.

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    I'm sure Hillary much would have preferred that we never escalated this "terrorism" war to include Iraq on the confirmed facts at the time. However, we are firmly there now. Hillary also is pragmatic enough to know that greater strength TEMPORARILY with set goals will better result in a better result. Hillary also knows many civilians who want this thing stopped now and certainly would not support any increase in troop strength. However, they are emotional and not pragmatic. Polls are to be used as a guideline, but they are not suifficient or reliable to govern this pluralistic society.

    We are getting beaten in Iraq, or at least severely bleeding (both the military and Iraqi civilians which we hope will pull to our 'side'), and I'm sure Hillary realizes this too. For several years we hoped that the military recommended troop strength would be sufficient, but we now see that we cannot hold down the terrorist population even crossing the borders. We just don't have enough manpower there to do it. I believe this is more the incentive that is used, rather than what may or may not appear in the NY Times, or that the reduction of steam leaks in judicial appointing deliberations, or Madrid/London etc.
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    Default Re: Now I'm sure that Hilary will run in '08 ...

    See the 4th post in this thread

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52028

    and the link to the new RAND Corp study given there.

    All the pieces are being put in place for bipartisan support for an increase in the size of the Army. However, given that current recruiting yields are failing to even maintain its current authorized strength (see the first post in the same thread and the links it contains), it may be difficult or impossible to implement a larger Army even if it is needed and authorized.

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    Default Re: Now I'm sure that Hilary will run in '08 ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wwanderer
    ...All the pieces are being put in place for bipartisan support for an increase in the size of the Army. However, given that current recruiting yields are failing to even maintain its current authorized strength (see the first post in the same thread and the links it contains), it may be difficult or impossible to implement a larger Army even if it is needed and authorized.

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    Hillary is very much a pragmatist and I sure think this is a pragmatic decision.
    You say pragmatist, I say opportunist. And I don't even say that with malice--she's just a very skilled politician.
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    Default Re: Now I'm sure that Hilary will run in '08 ...

    It really doesn't matter to me anymore...I'll flip a coin next election, heads=Libertarian candidate & tails=Green Party candidate, since either one will not have a "Prayer in Haedes" of being elected. Since both of the major parties don't take elections seriously enough to knock off the "spin" and negatvie campaign ads, why should I take either one of the major politcal parties seriously anymore?


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    Default Re: Now I'm sure that Hilary will run in '08 ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer
    You say pragmatist, I say opportunist. And I don't even say that with malice--she's just a very skilled politician.

    In politics, and in business, that is what a pragmatist is.
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