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    Default New Law Tampa July

    Can one of you legal eagle guys till me what this means? I think there is something about the cop being able to be the complaintaint? Is stripping now illegal in Tampa?
    http://www.flsenate.gov/cgi-bin/view...billtext/html/

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    Stripping is not Illegal. What this is saying is that a police officer can arrest you if you perform an act of prostitution on him. He will be able to testify as a complaintant that you solicited him. What this is reall about where dancers are concerned is what the cops and the city consider an act of prostitution. I haven't been to Tampa in a while but the hand job I got in the "spaceship" at 2001 a few years ago would definitely qualify.
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    796.07 Prohibiting prostitution, etc.; evidence; penalties; definitions.--

    (1) As used in this section:

    (a) "Prostitution" means the giving or receiving of the body for sexual activity for hire but excludes sexual activity between spouses.

    (b) "Lewdness" means any indecent or obscene act.

    (c) "Assignation" means the making of any appointment or engagement for prostitution or lewdness, or any act in furtherance of such appointment or engagement.

    (d) "Sexual activity" means oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by, or union with, the sexual organ of another; anal or vaginal penetration of another by any other object; or the handling or fondling of the sexual organ of another for the purpose of masturbation; however, the term does not include acts done for bona fide medical purposes.

    (2) It is unlawful:

    (a) To own, establish, maintain, or operate any place, structure, building, or conveyance for the purpose of lewdness, assignation, or prostitution.

    (b) To offer, or to offer or agree to secure, another for the purpose of prostitution or for any other lewd or indecent act.

    (c) To receive, or to offer or agree to receive, any person into any place, structure, building, or conveyance for the purpose of prostitution, lewdness, or assignation, or to permit any person to remain there for such purpose.

    (d) To direct, take, or transport, or to offer or agree to direct, take, or transport, any person to any place, structure, or building, or to any other person, with knowledge or reasonable cause to believe that the purpose of such directing, taking, or transporting is prostitution, lewdness, or assignation.

    (e) To offer to commit, or to commit, or to engage in, prostitution, lewdness, or assignation.

    (f) To solicit, induce, entice, or procure another to commit prostitution, lewdness, or assignation.

    (g) To reside in, enter, or remain in, any place, structure, or building, or to enter or remain in any conveyance, for the purpose of prostitution, lewdness, or assignation.

    (h) To aid, abet, or participate in any of the acts or things enumerated in this subsection.

    (i) To purchase the services of any person engaged in prostitution.

    (3) In the trial of a person charged with a violation of this section, testimony concerning the reputation of any place, structure, building, or conveyance involved in the charge, testimony concerning the reputation of any person residing in, operating, or frequenting such place, structure, building, or conveyance, and testimony concerning the reputation of the defendant is admissible in evidence in support of the charge.

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    WHAT!? They don't do that there! Only Ybor strip is EVIL!
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    are you kidding? tampa is known for its high contact lap dances and also its extras. ive only been working a few days (at a club that DOES NOT do extras) but we have guys telling us all the time that they can get extras at many other clubs in the area. also, i have "friends" who have gotten extras in various places around here. there are so many clubs in the area that it tends to make those kinds of things run rampant. competition is tough. i wish they WOULD close down the clubs that allow prostitution, but instead what they do it hassle -all- the clubs about lap dancing in general and just wind up hurting the good clubs instead og going after the ones that really deserve it. if you are a member of www.tuscl.com you can read all sorts of stories about guys getting "bareback" sex in certain tampa clubs. reading the reviews on that site (as well as on here) is how i made my mental list of where not to work in this area. granted, there are lots of good clubs that don't allow this, i'm just saying there are also a lot that do.

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    I know I know. I was only joking. I love Ybor Strip! As a friend tho.

    No, I suddenly have a reason to visit Mons. Shhh don't tell anyone, its a seekrat.

    I found Ybor Strip and Oz, but just BEFORE leaving Tampa to head to Miami then home. I took a left on Dale Mabry coming from St.Pete instead of a right...I was looking for a borders. Thats when i saw MONs and 2001. I hated myself for the next 6 days for not going. And even more so currently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty_Penny
    are you kidding? tampa is known for its high contact lap dances and also its extras. ive only been working a few days (at a club that DOES NOT do extras) but we have guys telling us all the time that they can get extras at many other clubs in the area. also, i have "friends" who have gotten extras in various places around here. there are so many clubs in the area that it tends to make those kinds of things run rampant. competition is tough. i wish they WOULD close down the clubs that allow prostitution, but instead what they do it hassle -all- the clubs about lap dancing in general and just wind up hurting the good clubs instead og going after the ones that really deserve it. if you are a member of www.tuscl.com you can read all sorts of stories about guys getting "bareback" sex in certain tampa clubs. reading the reviews on that site (as well as on here) is how i made my mental list of where not to work in this area. granted, there are lots of good clubs that don't allow this, i'm just saying there are also a lot that do.
    pretty accurate, i must say...i can tell you EXACTLY when Tampa went down the shitter...

    Once upon a time, there was a man named Jack Galardi....he owns lots of clubs in the US..primarily in the southeast...hes based out of Atlanta...he opened 4 clubs in Tampa...Ponytails, Pink Pony, Diamonds, and Goldrush...about 8 yrs ago....over the course of time, these clubs became known as the "extras mecca"...anyone could do anything ...anytime...mgrs didnt care...it was all in the open..everyone knew..no one said anything...December 22, 2003...they were all raided...mgs on duty were all charged with various things from aiding and abetting prostitution all the way to RICO...which is a broad charge covering racketeering and the like....These clubs have all been sold now, except Pontytails....part of the lawsuit filed stated that Jack Galardi must sell all his clubs in Tampa and theyd drop the rico charges...maybe all the charges...Im not sure....Ponytails is the last of them, but theyre trying their best to keep it clean...theres always those couple girls who try to get away with something though....

    This man and his clubs ruined Tampa...when i started dancing in 95, this was not NEARLY as common as it has been lately...once the raids happened..Tampa died...its starting to come back now, but only time will tell if itll ever be like it once was...

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    i just wish dancers that "give extras" would just go to an escort service. i'm not one to judge (to each him/her own) but a strip/dance club is just that, ti shouldnt be a place for prostitution. plus, wouldnt the girls who are comfortable doing that sort of thing make more money working for an escort service anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty_Penny
    i just wish dancers that "give extras" would just go to an escort service. i'm not one to judge (to each him/her own) but a strip/dance club is just that, ti shouldnt be a place for prostitution. plus, wouldnt the girls who are comfortable doing that sort of thing make more money working for an escort service anyway?
    i agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty_Penny
    if you are a member of www.tuscl.com you can read all sorts of stories about guys getting "bareback" sex in certain tampa clubs.
    what kind of BB sex?
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    plus, wouldnt the girls who are comfortable doing that sort of thing make more money working for an escort service anyway?
    not if they think they're NOT doing that sort of thing.
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    Default Re: New Law Tampa July

    It doesn't say nipple play is prostitution. Wonder what a bonafide medical procedure could be done in a strip club? And what kind of license is required. How about a physical exam?

    j/k

    But why is prostitution not allowed in Tampa in licensed facilities? They could raise taxes. (Then they could clean up the strip clubs.) After all, the state took over the numbers racket years ago (lottery) and placed taxes on liquor many years ago, so the state-allowed vice for money has a precedent.
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    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    I haven't seen much of an effect from the change in the law yet. I've been watching the news, waiting for announcemts of raids, etc.

    I suspect that nothing much will happen until elections get closer. Then... Well... You know how powerful the blue hair vote is.
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    That blue-hair vote, as well as all the Bible Bangers and hypocrite right-wingers,will prevent prostitution from ever being legalized or regulated. Plus, most escorts and johns don't want it legal anyway. That way they are harder to trace and harder to tax.

    As long as SC management providers a relatively safe venue for sex acts to occur, they aren't going to stop. Girls will want to make easy money without walking the streets or going to strange hotel rooms. Men will take what's on the menu......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine
    That blue-hair vote, as well as all the Bible Bangers and hypocrite right-wingers,will prevent prostitution from ever being legalized or regulated. Plus, most escorts and johns don't want it legal anyway. That way they are harder to trace and harder to tax.

    As long as SC management providers a relatively safe venue for sex acts to occur, they aren't going to stop. Girls will want to make easy money without walking the streets or going to strange hotel rooms. Men will take what's on the menu......
    Agreed.

    I would add to that a lot of the men aren't comfortable with using an escort service. In a strip club they can feel relatively safe (with an escort service there is some possibility of being mugged or robbed by the hooker or her friends). There are also risks of getting caught at a motel (being seen by someone they work with or are friends with). Plus as Mr P suggested re self denial, I suspect some men also live in a state of denial. 'It's only a strip club, it's not as bad/wrong as going to a hooker' (kind of mentality).

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    Quote Originally Posted by threlayer
    It doesn't say nipple play is prostitution.
    Actually, that's open to your interpretation of what a "sexual organ" is. But think about the practical application of such an allegation. It's doubtful an undercover cop is going to write a report that says he took one into his mouth.

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    It's starting... funny thing is that I read it here first.
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