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    I know that every girl encounters the custy who "wants to know them outside the club". I am a walking magnet for these guys. So I tried a kind of test. I worked two nights giving out my e-mail left and right and two nights of ignoring request for such information. (Never under any circumstances will I give my #) I made a sizable amount more $$ on days that I did give the info and even had a handful return to check in on me (and spend some $$). Problem is, I'm a lazy ass and would rather not reply to e-mails I've recieved. I know that maintaining the e-mail realtions is directly proportionate to my earnings but I could hit a point where they will just get tired of e-mailing back and forth. Basically, I need techniques on how to string guys along without boring and losing them ya know. I wan't them to think that I'm single and keep them coming in to buy dances and stuff. In real life I'm a full-time student with a crazy schedule and a very supportive boyfriend. What is the formula to keep them begging for more and staying interested?

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    Default Re: Exchanging information for $$$

    Be careful you don't end up encouraging some stalker....

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    There is nothing wrong with giving your number out to a few SELECT customers who have spent money in the club and whom have been respectful. Everyone who spends a decent amount isn't a candidate for phone communication. You have to use you better judgment on that. That is how you build a regular clientele. Girls who have a good client base are more open with their good customers and aren't afraid to keep in touch. Several regulars of mine say younger dancers don't communicate as well with them and are more aloof, so if you are more open, you'll do well. The guys don't call that often.

    I work in small towns on bookings where I am only at the same club once every 4-6 weeks, and a brief chat with them when they call letting them know when I will be back is worth a mint. You won't be on the phone for more than 5 minutes max.

    My fiancee' knows that this is part of the business and even recognizes the numbers of the few good regulars I have. The older guys prefer the phone over e-mail. It is more personal.The more standoffish you are the more you repel the regulars.

    You definately want them to think you are single, as I find my small town regulars are very nosy.

    Being in a big city club you will have a larger turn over of regulars than I do working once a month bookings because these guys can only see me one week out of 4-6 weeks so they won't get bored or be able to push things too far.

    Just keep friendly conversation with them and be a good listener and conversationalist, and the ones who push too hard for more you'll have to let go.

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    it may make you more money at that moment, but I have found that once you give out personal contact information, they feel like they are your friend....especially if you're e-mailing friendly conversation. (This doesn't apply for using e-mail strictly as a method for them to contact you about scheduling.) And if you don't follow through with it, it's even worse than giving away free time!

    In short, don't give out your time for free OTC, because you are trying to market your time as valuable. THAT is what keeps them begging for more.

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    Done this email thing before. Maybe it was me, or rather the people that was involved.
    So, let's begin, this is going to sound weird.

    1. A man emailed once and asked me to be his mother and have sex with him. I'm a mother and it really scared me.

    2. Another guy was telling me that he had sex with his horse for two years before he got a girlfriend, then he left her and would do it with his donkey
    And wanted me to do it with his "friends".

    3. One guy wanted me to pretend to an ant, crawl up to him and bite down on his you know what.

    Honestly, I am not making this up. After all this, I called my internet provider and had the email account canceled.
    I prefer to stick with dancing for the time being, at least till I finish school.
    I consider myself to be pretty weird and strange, but not this strange. It was a real real reality check. Go back to dancing.

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    that is some pretty sick *bleep*

    At first, I was almost thinking you should write some sort of pseudo blog - newsletter thing to those guys; like a subcription.

    But hearing that there are some whack-a-do's out you should be careful with info...there are so many ways to gather info on people and email can be one of them.

    not to freak you out, just be selective or don't do it at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fathom7
    I know that every girl encounters the custy who "wants to know them outside In real life I'm a full-time student with a crazy schedule and a very supportive boyfriend. What is the formula to keep them begging for more and staying interested?
    Get your boyfriend to respond to the e mails as you...afterall if you are providing the fantasy you should be entitled to cash in... LOL

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    why not spend an hour or so each nite as a model on a webcam site ? thats easy as you give out the sites addy and the custy can contact you on the internal email...or spend money on a pvt show ;O)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fathom7
    Basically, I need techniques on how to string guys along without boring and losing them ya know. I wan't them to think that I'm single and keep them coming in to buy dances and stuff.
    If you need to lure a guy under false pretense that you're available for a relationship outside the club to get their money, then they're not worth the price of stringing along, and should you string the wrong guy along, the price can be quite heavy.

    Stuff like this can have a means of coming back on you. Why risk your privacy or personal safety for a few extra dollars?
    Former SCJ now in rehab.

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    I've had 2 or 3 regulars whose credentials I checked out and gave an e-mail address to (without my real name). It was very useful because it got me out of the phone # thing and I was able to e-mail and say "I'm working on ______ day". I'd just be really busy and remind them that I'd be there and would love to see them.

    Still- Be careful. Just look at Bundy and Rader, etc.

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    2 better ways, which may be combined:
    1. Set up an e-mail only for your customers and you have an automatic reply function. Change the outgoing e-mail message occassionally. At the end of the e-mail, let them know you hope to seem them at the club at particular times you work there.

    2. Have a voicemail, where they hear your voice and you can leave messages. Don't reply.

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    Ok ladies, I'm a custy, and let me please help you out on this.

    Find an online webmail client like hotmail, but not hotmail. And get your Dancer name in it.
    Say your dancer name is Lappy
    get [email protected] or something
    A: you have to remember to check it, its not something you have to sort through just to get to the one from mom and dad.
    B: You can say 'Oh baby I've been so busy' about not replying
    C: You can filter them out and block bad ones.

    Now, onto phone numbers. If you have broadband get skype. And do yourself a favor, buy skype-in and get a local number. Setup your voicemail and make it personal but make it your fake name. Hell, put your schedule in it.
    A: this makes it a 'Call Back' environment. *67 Is your friend here. You can call back and not be traced, and they can call you and at least get your schedule.
    B: Its cheap, its quick, and it seperates you from your job.
    C: You can relay it as... 'My number? Ok...here I like you and I want to see you, so I'll give you my work number with my schedule on it, but YOU leave a msg and say "x" then I will call you back. My parents dont know I'm a dancer so I only do call backs this way" blah blah blah you can come up with something.

    You wont keep a custy forever if they know nothing about you, but you don't want that, you want to look single and everything, what you're talking about doing now, is maintaining the lie 24/7. These methodes put you in control of when. But as long as you are lying completely <not bad> sooner or later they're going to understand they dont have a chance and that normally happens when another dancer becomes an option.

    Hope this helps!

    Oh and how did I get to this? I've had dancers ask from my number. But not the one that matters, and out of respect I'm sure she never will, the point is, I don't need to go through some sex ensued emails to get to ones from clients, and I don't need my cell/office phone full of 'Hey babies was thinking about you masturbating this morning' <translate into> 'I was thinking about you when I couldn't make deposits this morning'

    If I don't know them well enough to trust them they wont get me direct.

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    I did the email thing. I'd give it to anyone who asked & paid for a few dances ( any reasonable amount for the time of day//busy level)-- about 10-20 guys nightly.

    Only about 25% would actually email me-- some of those would be time wasters -- others would be great custy's-- of that 2-5 guys only about 1 per day would I continue to email regularly (maybe 1-2x week).... If they wouldn't come in after 2 of my requests-- then I'd drop the communication.

    Some of my great custy's would never use the email, just pop back in to see me.
    Some horrible guys would try to email me all of the time--- the kind of guy who buys 3-4 dances and thinks you owe him the rest of the night.

    Some guys would email me time after time, but never come back to the club.

    All in all I liked it. I answer emails when I want. I jot down a quick note-- they have access to my schedule, and I can keep track of a good custy if he hasn't been in for a while. And even when I'm not in the mood to be all cheerful, I can send a " I had such a great time with you last night!" email.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastridonicus
    Ok ladies, I'm a custy, and let me please help you out on this.

    Find an online webmail client like hotmail, but not hotmail. And get your Dancer name in it.
    Say your dancer name is Lappy
    get [email protected] or something
    A: you have to remember to check it, its not something you have to sort through just to get to the one from mom and dad.
    B: You can say 'Oh baby I've been so busy' about not replying
    C: You can filter them out and block bad ones.

    Now, onto phone numbers. If you have broadband get skype. And do yourself a favor, buy skype-in and get a local number. Setup your voicemail and make it personal but make it your fake name. Hell, put your schedule in it.
    A: this makes it a 'Call Back' environment. *67 Is your friend here. You can call back and not be traced, and they can call you and at least get your schedule.
    B: Its cheap, its quick, and it seperates you from your job.
    C: You can relay it as... 'My number? Ok...here I like you and I want to see you, so I'll give you my work number with my schedule on it, but YOU leave a msg and say "x" then I will call you back. My parents dont know I'm a dancer so I only do call backs this way" blah blah blah you can come up with something.

    You wont keep a custy forever if they know nothing about you, but you don't want that, you want to look single and everything, what you're talking about doing now, is maintaining the lie 24/7. These methodes put you in control of when. But as long as you are lying completely <not bad> sooner or later they're going to understand they dont have a chance and that normally happens when another dancer becomes an option.

    Hope this helps!

    Oh and how did I get to this? I've had dancers ask from my number. But not the one that matters, and out of respect I'm sure she never will, the point is, I don't need to go through some sex ensued emails to get to ones from clients, and I don't need my cell/office phone full of 'Hey babies was thinking about you masturbating this morning' <translate into> 'I was thinking about you when I couldn't make deposits this morning'

    If I don't know them well enough to trust them they wont get me direct.

    ::Mast::
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    You know, I don't give out my email but I give customers my Yahoo! Group address, which gives them access to message me privately. I find that most of my customers do join but only about 25% ever actually email me. And the few I email with (it's an email account set up strictly for my strippin') are actually very politely and flirty. The few weird emails I have gotten, either from customers or normal members I just delete and never reply to. I haven't had that big a problem from it, and the customers love the extra attention. None of them spend less because they have contact with me. They tend to visit more.

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    I have an email I give out to the priveledged few. It's funny because it's [email protected] Hahaha. Durr. I should give it out more and see if it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilithmorrigan
    I have an email I give out to the priveledged few. It's funny because it's [email protected] Hahaha. Durr. I should give it out more and see if it works.
    Thats totally the point!!!

    It lets them know right up front that this should be used for business purposes only...mine was dancing nina @ _.com
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    My job and my life outside my job do not intersect. That is, they are separate and they remain separate. Oh, yeah, could be making more money doing this, but what are the acutal costs?
    Expose to unnecessay danger, get home to answer e-mails? More waste of time? No, I don't do my job at home and I don't carry my job home.

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    What I plan to do is getting a pre-paid sidekick and using only the data services(30 bucks a month) and only giving out that number. You can ste the ringer on silent, and just ignore it and reply to every 2dn text or email. that way it is not traceable to me, it is not ringing and bothering me, and If I need some extra $$, I can have peoples phone numbers to call into whichever club I'm at that night.

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    If you give out the phone #, try and be as upfront as possible about this being a strictly BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP. Many guys may get the wrong impression and may even have sincere "feelings" for you outside the club if you let it go that far. It's truly a fine line between balancing the "personal" aspects "leading some custie on" compared with trying to keep a steady source of BUSINESS $$$.

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    I do give my e-mail to high-rolling customers. It's an account set up strictly for this purpose, registered under my dance name, and (I think!) not easily traced back to me. I leave it to customers discretion if they want to e-mail me. If they do, I write back that I had a great time with them and they should come and see me again, and I send my schedule, that's it. I get in touch every so often to remind them how great I am and how much they miss me. If they don't respond to one or two e-mails, I stop communicating. I don't want to hassle anybody.

    I wouldnt' say e-mail has been THE key to success for me, but when I was fired from my last club, it did give me a way to get in touch with most of my regulars and let them know I had a new club. A few did follow me up there, which was nice.

    When I give the e-mail out, I tell them they can drop me a line if they ever want to know when I'm working. This makes it pretty obvious that the e-mail is basically a business tool. I don't encourage guys to think that it's for social use. Now and again someone will e-mail me asking for a date, and I have a rote two-line response about how, for safety and legal reasons, I can't meet them outside the club.

    I've never worried about being stalked through my e-mail. I'm much more concerned about being followed home from the club. Even a phone seems sketchier to me, though I'm considering getting one. The worst experience I've had with e-mail is ending up on a bunch of people's retarded-joke lists and having to delete a lot of crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anastacia79
    What I plan to do is getting a pre-paid sidekick and using only the data services(30 bucks a month) and only giving out that number. You can ste the ringer on silent, and just ignore it and reply to every 2dn text or email. that way it is not traceable to me, it is not ringing and bothering me, and If I need some extra $$, I can have peoples phone numbers to call into whichever club I'm at that night.
    That is EXACTLY the method I use with my sidekick.

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    I recently made a simple website with schedule, pics, pricing of dancing, etc. If someone spends alot or wants to know how to contact me , i direct them to the website. They are usually impressed and I get repeat business from travellers b/c they know when and where Im working.

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    How do you remember the guys' names and faces with weeks in between?

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    How to handle email management:

    Used Mast's advice on set up and skype style phone (I think SunRocket is cheaper than Skype or Vonage or Whatever). I only used my business phone number for OTC work (bachelor parties or Strip-o-gram).

    I would freely hand out my email and website addy to any cutomer who was interested, I would also encourage them to pass along my info to others who might be interested in a party booking.

    As the customer emails came in I would add them to a list. I would send out updates w/ all the customer email addresses on BCC with my email addy in the To: line. I would try and make the mail sound personal (Saying things like, "It seems like it's been a long time since I last saw you, Are you planning a trip to the club soon?"). I would throw in a reference to my website, and auctions I had up on ebay or ebanned, and my schedule. I would attach a semi naughtly photo to the emails, saying "just for you since you are such a sweet heart" or something.

    Ten minutes a week is all it took to maintain. Occasionally I would need to reply back in a personal email, but not very often at all. When a customer would be looking for an OTC show or something is mainly when I would reply personally.

    Yes, I did get some creeps. But the once a week mail kept them from coming unglued in the club. I would never answer my work phone if I didn't recognize the phone number (or if the number was unavailable). That way the customer is forced to leave me a voice mail. Most phones have a feature to block certain numbers. When you block a number, the caller get's a message about the number you are tring to reach is currently unavailable, and to please try to call at another time.


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