this question might sound kinda stupid but. how do u hustle? like what do u start off saying and stuff. what is a good approuch?



this question might sound kinda stupid but. how do u hustle? like what do u start off saying and stuff. what is a good approuch?





I start of introducing myself, "Hi I'm Morrigan and welcome to the Ecstasy! I hope you're having a great day. You don't mind if I sit with you, do you?" *sit* "What's your name?"
Then I ask them how their day was. If they ask me about mine I ALWAYS say "Fantastic! I have had a wonderful day!!!" I know this works very well because I had a regular once say, "Wow, Morrigan is always fantastic! I always want to be around her because I want to be fantastic too!"
I always get them to answer a question with the answer being 'yes' at least three times in a row before I offer the dance. "The girls are sure lovely here aren't they?!" "You're having a great time, arne't you?!" ect.
I never ask for the dance. I tell them they want one. "I bet you're ready for a dance now!" or "C'mon, let's have a dance now!"
So on and so on.





There are many different sources for getting good information on selling also. Two books you should check out are The Psychology of Selling by Brian Tracy and How To Close Every Sale by Joe Girrard. These will get you going in the right direction. Essentially every sales presentation though should have a beginning, a middle, and a conclusion or ending much the same way a movie, play, or novel does.
The Beginning is walking up, introducing yourself, and starting to gain rapport with your customer...essentially making them comfortable with you being around, you talking to them, etc.
The middle is the steps you take (like what Lilith was saying) about getting your customer to open up. Getting them into the mode of buying. Making them follow the steips to saying "yes" frequently etc. Small commitments lead to big commitments, which is why the "yes" method is so effective. Brian Tracy is the pioneer of this system.
The end, basically, is your close. How you close the deal is how you make the sale. There are countless different ways to do this and yet ultimately, it just comes down with you selling that dance or that trip to the VIP room, etc.
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I tried the leading questions tonight, similar to LillithMorrigan. It was received with mixed results but did sell me dances from a club regular who NEVER buys. Perhaps its not for a Friday night crowd?
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Originally Posted by Mia M
There's a hundred great ideas about approaching guys and lines for closing the sale on here. Just search some and find what works for you.
The most important thing is just do it! There's two kinds of girls. The first are the girls that sit at the bar most of the night, or sit with some young guys that are not spending any money just because they are hot. They are the ones complaining in the dressing room at the end of the night that there's no money in the club. They go home broke. The girls that hustle are there to work. That's not to say they come off as "business-like" to the customer, its just that they are there to make money. They never sit at the bar, they approach the customers and ask for dances. The size up the customers by how much money they are prepared to spend, not as a potential date. They go home with their bills paid.
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my hustle varies by night and crowd.
On a friday or saturday night, the hustle is strong. I make sure that nobody wastes my time and vice versa. I wait a couple of songs and cut to the chase with something like "well, are you ready to go have some real fun now?" (while nodding my head and standing up)
On slower nights - say week nights like monday and tuesday, my hustle generally is to "not hustle." When its super slow, I usually make money by sitting at the bar, having a drink with a guy and acting like I am so interested in conversation with them that I don't even care about dances. I do make sure that I pick out some vital information about them before I commit to spending time with them (for example, I will casually find out what they do, why they are there, and if they usually buy dances) Mind you, this type of hustle generally only works on the business type or the older "gentlemen."
And it doesn't work for everyone. But its done miracles on me for super slow nights (common here in tampa during the summer) Usually they will ask for dances or how the dances work at my club (which is when i throw in my sales pitch) If THEY dont ask, I will say something like "wow, it has been a real pleasure meeting you, and I'd love to continue chatting, but I have GOT to get to work" -generally this will prompt them to ask about dances or remind them to tip me for my time.


I have a related question. I hope it's ok to post it here. Thought the answer might be helpful for this thread. I don't know about elsewhere but the "role call" and special dance is standard here.
Every four songs we have "fantasy dances", the best way to get these is to arrange it beforehand, as a lot of guys want to wait for the "deal",
then after we are called off, haul ass off the stage to the guy b4 someone else grabs them (these types are notoriously disloyal),
Anyone have any tips on getting guys on a "cold-call" during these so-called fantasy dances? We have about 2 minutes to either get a dance or suffer the humiliation of being one of the "all available dancers" sent to the stage for the duration for what I not-so-fondly call the reject dance. When you get stuck doing this several times in a row.... well obviously no one wants the girl that appears to not be wanted. It looks bad even when u have been busy in between times.
Sometimes I will skip out on these to not look so available, but sometimes the mgmt are a-holes and will hunt you down, charge u for a dance, or fine u for skipping out on this. Ok, so they want the stage busy, but it is a pretty counterproductive practice.
I have some pretty decent one liners but could always use new ones, esp something u think might work on the super young crowds we have been getting on wknds (I am one of the older girls), and on big groups that start to get that "herd" mentality. Remember we have about 2 minutes to drag their butts back there! Thanks!
I always base my hustle on how busy the club is or the type of customer. On busy days I wait until I go up on stage to see who looks interested in me and whose tipping. However if there are a lot of girls and I'm not going to be on stage for awhile I'll take the long way around the room to talk to the DJ or order a drink to see if any guys are eyeing me. When I go over I start with the typical "hey how are you doing, my name is alexis, whats your name?" or I start off with something corny "omygod are you wearing gio, that is my absolute favorite coligne in the world" <--- of course that only works if they are wearing gioWhen Im sitting with them I manage to work a corny line in that mentions dances ie. if they say their tired I reply with "well I can get one part of your body to wake up baby" It sounds sooooo stupid but guys love it. Another line I like to use is if they just came in to relax (the typical I don't want a dance excuse that we all know). I'll pretend to pout and say in a little girly voice "what better way is there to relax than sit back and let me do all the work" That line works about 75% of the time. If a custy asks me how I'm doing I'll respond if I'm in a bad room with "freakin fabulous, wanna cheer me up" That line pretty much guarantees that I'll be able to join them, then I will act positive. For the most part Ive found just being real works alot better than having a fake persona, because most guys can pick up on that. The one thing I never do is bitch about money, gas prices, how slow it is, or other girls or staff.
Alexis
i HAVE TO WORK IN A PLACE THAT IS BUSY WITH WHITE/BLACK/ASIAN COOPERATE MEN THAT ENJOY BUYING ;AP DANCES AND PRIVATE ROOMS. i ASK EVERY MAN IN THE CLUB FOR A DANCE AND SOME UP TO THREE TIMES. i AM THE BEST STRIP CLUB HUSTLER BY FAR.
MAKE MONEY EVERYDAY!!!!





You have to do this a few times until it seems natural. If you are not used to using leading statements in your normal speech, it will not sound right. Practice, practaice, practice.Originally Posted by Katrine
I use an approach similar to LillithMorrigan's and it is an awesome approach. (Bet I know where you learned that, LM!)
Brian Tracy's Psychology of Selling is an amazing book. Not all of it is adaptable for a dance situation; however, much of it is extremely helpful. It was the first sales training book I read that I tried to apply to dancing, and it close to doubled my earnings.
After you have exhausted a few sales traing books, take DancerWealth's course. It will seriousle change you workng life.
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I have been dancing for almsot 3 years and I have always started out with "Hi my name is Ambur whats your name?" Pretend that you want to get to know that person. ask them there name, where they live, What do they do for a living, have you ever been to the club before. After talking for a few minutes about them you can kinda tell if they like your personally or not. If they dont seem to like ya much then say "well just wanted to say hi" and walk away.. If they do want to talk to you they will call you back.. alwasy works for me...Ambur
I have recently been traveling to hundreds of strip clubs where i studied and questioned ladies to understand and gain better insight on the way to hustle. I have tried HUNDREDS of different things and these are the things that best worked for me!...WORTH READING!
On your way to work, put on music that is going to pump you up; get yourself into the mood to be happy, especailly if your in a bad mood. Think about different ways you can ask a guy for a dance with out literally asking 'do you want a dance'. LIke the other ladies said.... try to get him into a flow of saying yes, by asking questions that he is bound to respond back to with a yes. If you've got 12 plus girls working on a saturday, and most or all of them are to ask the same customer 'do you want a dance' it will become habit for him to simply reply no. Its like fishing with a piece of molded cheese.. he dont want that.. give him something he can REALLY nibble on. Intice him with silly sayings... even if he is the kind of guy that wont neccessarily get turned on by comments filled with sexual inuendos, he will at least be amused, and that is your job. In this forum thread alone, some girls gave sone great silly sex comments, but you jsut have to try out a few and see what works best for you. Always, approach a costomer with a smile, a happy, fluid hello... and start by asking the first three or four 'yes; questions. Its important to try and get to know your costumer by his responses and attitude before hand so that you can know how to exactly begin asking him for dances. For instance... i wouldnt say the same things to a guy sitting by himself that i would a guy that has a few freinds with him. If a guy is sitting by himself ( and looks business like) i will try to be business like back by saying ' so, are you familiar with how the dances work here?' thats the kind of question that 99.9% of the time you will always get a no, which gives you the opportunity to pitch your hustle. If he is looking more like the old, lonley guy that realy wants or needs attention, i will say 'are you ready to get me naked?' even if you are just a topless club, this line will make his jaw drop... and further more it causes shock... which in turn almost always recieves a yes back... or at least a little giggle or embarressment, in which you then have full reign to explain the dances. If a guy is sitting with friends or if there is a group of guys, i would say something like ' whos going to get me naked first..' and when i come back from a dance..' whos going to take advantage of me next?''
( a good way to ask for money before hand is by saying ' its x dollars, and you pay me before the dance so that i know how good of a dance i should give you.' i know this is illegal to do in some clubs beucase of dance regulations.. but it works great in getting multiple dances if your allowed to!)
A good way to develop a hustle is to sit down with yourself and analyze your assests, both on you and at your club. Foir instance: at my club our dances work like this....
topless table dance- $10
nude private dance- $25 (5 of each dance goes to house fee)
VIP (min of half hour)- $250 (50 goes to house fee per half hour)
there are no rules or regulations on the dances.. so therefore i make my own....
topless table dance, no contact- $10
nude private dance, partial contact (i can touch him)-$35
nude private dance, full contact (he can touch my thighs, butt and stomach.. and i will be more liberal with my chest... however i dont explain this to him.. i just say you can touch me. If he asks where i say, above the waist, aside from the thighs. if he tries to touch my chest during the dance, i tell him its against club policy) and those are for a minimum of three at $30 each.(garunteed $90)
VIP, min of half hour, full contact (just like above) except instead of saying you can touch me.. i say you can touch me 'anywhere', and its much more private and personal. for $250. (we arnt allowed to over charge on the VIP room)
however.. that is my sale pitch.. and i have created stepping ladders to the things the guy wants most... the slight increas in price and the ever so slight increase of sexuality added to each price seems worth it to the guy... its not so much of jump saying.. 'table dances at 10 and vip is 250....' instead its a gradual increase so that ultimately he doesnt even realize he is spending so much money. you have to create an illusion. and when in doubt while in the private rooms, if he gets out of hand .. say ' even though i would love for you to do that, its against club policy and we could both get in alot of trouble... they have hidden cameras and the watch all the time.' even if they dont have cameras, find a spot, like a ceiling vent, and say that the camera is in there in case he asks where it is. or say you have no clue where it is, you just know they have them. that way he wont feel like you are dissing him, or have a decreased interest in him. when he does something you dont neccesarily like, he is doing it becuase he thinks you will like it. You burst his fantasy by saying..'hands off' or 'you cant touch me/you cant do that' .in a fantasy anything goes... so blame it on the club when you can.
Thats another reason why you should always be happy.. even if you arnt. Guys come to the club to get away from wifes and girlfriends, and work,.... and stress.. so he doesnt want to hear about how shitty your doing too.
Now I know that in some clubs you cant overcharge on dances. Remember that as a dancer you are an independant contractor, and you are working for yourself, so even if you cant overcharge, manipulate the rules so they stand in your favor. (I onced worked at a club that only offered 20 dollar nude dances, and a vip room that was a min of three dances for 30 dollars each. they took 7 dollars out of each dance for the 20 dollar dances, and 10 for the vip. Vip was supposed to be inside this magical, reallly cool looking room, and of course for the most part it was no differnt then the 20 dollar dance except that it was insides this cool looking room. So i sold the 3 dances out in the regular rooms and sold it as 'you can touch me'. ALmost every guy bought the min. three dances, which is 90 per guy. I left with over 1000 dollars and only worked 5 hours. ) It doesnt matter what kind of situation you are in at your club, there is always some way to put more money in your favor. ( i can help you figure it out if you wan to private message me)
ANyways... developing a hustle for yourself has a lot to do with your club rules, your comfortability level, and dances. If your not the kind of girl who is into a guy touching at all... dont pitch to him that he can touch you for paying more, if you dont intend on letting him do so. instead, figure out levels on how you will touch him. Another good thing about changing the prices of the dances is that you can always 'cut deals'. Always pitch your hustle with the price you intend. ALot of times, when things are more expensive, guys associate that with getting something REAL good, so even though it is a bit pricier, they think they are getting a great dance. If they seem that the prices are tooo much... say something like 'since your cute/since i like you/since your soo sweet... i will negotiate. How about i give you .....' and talk down your prices to something that he agrees with. Sometimes.. i will say that a private dance where i touch him, no nudity is 25... and on slow nights i wont try to hustle so much on the pricier things, aside from rooms.
So you created this illusion just with prices of dances that you can give a pretty supurb dance. that means you better no be stingy when it comes to the actual dance time. If you are a beginniner dancer dont be afraid to ask the guy what he liked or didnt like about you dancing after you give hima dance. watch other girls, and try to pick up on some sexy moves that will get a guy going. try to develop a move for yourself that can almost become your signature.... you have made him to believe you are a great dancer... so try to live up to this illusion by using your best assests.. even if that means using your killer eyes to burn a hole right through his forehead!
My signature move is this:
I place my head between his thighs pretty low so that my shoulders hit the top of his thigh pretty close to his groin... i balance myself on my shoulders and flip up like im doing a head stand. the result in this trick is that my ass and pussy are right in his face. Its up to you if you want to do this with your panties on or off... i do it with them on, and usualy will do this at the beggining of a dance. if i got good balance i will wiggle my butt around, or use my hand to play with my thong before comeing down on two feet. Whats great about this trick is that when i do it for the lower priced dance.. the guys think 'hmm.. if she does this for a 35 dollar dance.. what can she POSSIBLY do for the 90? or 250? and i always try to say... and that isnt even my best trick! its a good way to get the guy to keep buying.. or at elast spend more!
Well.. i think that is it. For the most part i have a very successful hustle. I work in a small club that can only fit about 60 people in there comfortable. and thats alot! on a saturdya we usually only have like 10 or 12 girls working and on a thursday or friday .. maybe 7 or 9. We dont get super busy like a lot fo surrounding clubs do... but it doesnt take a lot of peopple to make a lot of money. I took home 860 dollars tonight and its a wednesday... its not uncommon for me to take home twice as much on a weekend either. If you want to talk more. or need hep or have more questions.. email me.. [email protected] thanks ladies and good luck!
Kitty
Girl, you need to go to a car lot, and pretend you gonna buy a car.
Watch the car salesman or woman's approach. Imitate it.
That's the way I learned.
Environment's different, but the techniques used is the same.
Watch the best ones, how they shake hands, how they get information.
Go and learn, girl, go and learn.

I just have to say thank you to all you lovely women. I've never been good in the clubs (great at parties), but I'm going back soon to try my hand again. I know this sounds ridiculous, but I'm just now realizing that it's all about rudimentary sales skills. I always felt like I did bad because I wasn't the prettiest, didn't have have the biggest boobs, whatever. Yeah, I'm f-ing slow.
Or Mexico, say Tijuana. Those knicknack store salespeople are fun to study. Just walk down the street in front of their stores and your bound to learn a trick or two.
its hard to explain to someone how i hustle because what can work for one person might not work for another. you really have to just try different things and see what works best for you and what you can pull off best.
just be assertive and self confident and youll be fine!
Your hustle all depends on who you are approaching and what kind of club you work in. What are the customers like where you work, and how big and busy is the club?
first i ask if i may sit with him, then i introduce myself and chit chat for a few minutes, ask where he is from etc.. i let the man talk mostly and i listen ,i don't talk too much about myself.....unless he askes me things........i act really interested in what the guy is saying and show alittle affection towards him( arm around his shoulder, kiss on check,compliment him on something,tell him he looks nice tonight) etc etc......then i ask may i dance for you in the couch room or vip room......i don't sit with them too long maybe 5 minutes tops.





Something that has been working for me (and I passed this 'wisdom' onto other dancers with great effect) ---
When selling a private/lap dance - give the customer 2 or 3 options MAX. When you state the private dances, state the expensive one first. Be all excited mentioning the expensive one and then tone your voice down (less excited) nearly mumbling the less expensive option(s).
Since I work within a club (and most strip clubs in Australia) where there's no touching of the dancer (touching allowed of the customer)... I emphasise (sp?) how erotic, sensual and just plain 'fun' my dance will be for the guy. If I require it, I will go into an explanation about how I love how erotic it is... how sensual the dance is.. how I love to touch men.. and how because you cannot touch me it is even more of a turn on than if you could.. that heightens the pleasure... and do it in a way to make it look like I really do enjoy giving this type of private/lap dance (I do so it isn't that hard). I then joke about how now I have worked myself all up thinking about what I could do to that particular customer ... we have to go for the dance right now.
I try to avoid mentioning price until I am sure I have closed the sale. If they ask what private/lap dances are available: I say the deluxe x rated dance or the standard r rated show. That makes the difference obvious to them straight away and usually helps me avoid the "how much time" questions which can hamper a sale.
If they ask about the time difference ... then I am a little vague in that I usually will say something along the lines of... "The deluxe x rated version goes for long enough so that the both of us can really enjoy ourselves whereas the standard r rated dance is just too short esp. for me to really enjoy myself." I also use speed of speech and tone in how I say things - that's a key as well. I always speak about the deluxe x rated dance in a slow, clear, flowing type of voice compared with my quick, mumbling (not so clear) voice when describing the standard dance.
This isn't all of my hustle however most of everything has already been explained in previous posts .... and I'm just hopefully adding to the good information.![]()
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just be confident,smile have a good attitude,and be polite and friendly ..make good eye contact always and ask if you may sit down with then,introduce yourself and never complain about anything or never tell them your having a bad night if you are.
Just walk over, make eye contact, smile, say something, anything.
Could be something dumb, or cute.
But, but, but, but, but. Really depends on how you size up the
customer.
Don't take too long to do a value assesment, coz, some other gal
would move right in there and get him.
I used to play dumb, really dumb, and make big eyes and act real
stupid, make that guy laugh.
This loosens him up, makes him start talking and when he starts
talking and drinking, he loses his inhibitions, and I just lead him
on, and on. Soon he has bought several lap dances from me.
Sometimes, this is enough, and he takes his leave.
Again, this depends on the customer.
Sometimes, this is not enough, and this leads to more VIP room
action. Get him to spend hour or two in there and I am home free!
Then other times you play Ms. Cutesy Pie, and talk real nice and sweet
and makes him think your my daddy, and you want to take me home.
Oh, but you can't do that, and the best you can do is to buy dances from me.
Yeah.
Then, other times, you play Ms Naughty, yeah, I need your firm guidance.
Without you, I would be lost,. Just show me the way, and show me your money
also while you are doing this. Yeah.
You change your appraoch depending on the how you see the customer.
Heck, it is all play acting. That is just all it is.
As Shakespeare once put it.
All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts,
(or woman)
(from As You Like It 2/7)
Last edited by girlnew156; 11-09-2005 at 03:23 AM.
For me, I start off by asking if they want company or not...if so, I ask them what they do, what they like to do for fun, etc, and expound off of that...I try to wait to ask about getting a dance til after the bartender comes by to ask him about drinks (about 5 min) or when I can sense he's ready...but I don't ask if he wants a dance...I ask if he's ready to go have some fun...less pressure, so more ready for him to say yes or ask about dance prices.
Age is only important when it comes to wine and whiskey!
you also may have done badly cause you think of yourself as a slut.why not think of yourself as a goddess instead? ms goddess sounds better than ms slut!
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I have this really cute feather duster thing which isn't so much a tool of hustling as of seduction. While you're talking to them (small talk, how's your day" etc.) occasionally stroke their neck of side of the face with it just briefly to guage their reaction you can tell pretty easily if they like it. If they lose what they were going to say then there is virtually no chance they are going to say no. Then when you're giving them the prices lean really close so your talking right into their ear and don't stop using the feather (only do this if they've really obviously enjoyed you doing it). Some nights this is a miricle worker and other nights you don't really have a tactile crowd in so it may not seal the deal but you will come across as fun and flirty even if it doesn't reduce them to jelly. it's just another gimmick to lighten the mood. Hope it helps![]()





Cute! I am going to borrow my son's tickle stick he got at the renissance fair!
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