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    Default Raising the price of my dances.

    I work in a club where dances are $10. I give the best dance in the club, no question about it. (I hear it from customers and looking around, I can see how other girls are dancing.) I give the most contact I can get away with, get in a variety of crazy and difficult positions, etc.

    I have been selling dances at $10 each, 3/$25.

    Now I want to start selling dances on a tiered system, $10 for an average dance (Less contact, less granding, not so many theatrical positions), $20 for the best, highest contect, least clothing dance. ($5 for an air dance for cheapskates. If I don't take thier lincoln, somebody else will!)

    All dances are in front of the bar, there are no VIP rooms or private areas.

    Some girls allow custys to grab boobs and crotch, however this in not only revolting, also illegal, and can (supposedly) get you fired. I woudl like to avoid this.

    Any suggestions how I can start selling what used to be my regular dance as "deluxe" and also how I can make my "deluxe" dance outstandlingly special, so that it is worth twice the price of an ordinary dance?

    What about my regs? Should I try to sell them the tiered ssytem, too, or jstu keep giving them the dance they are used to at the customary price?

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    I'd be careful about changing prices on your reg's...

    Otherwise if your clubs allows I say go ahead.... I love the part about the $5 airdances!

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    Default Re: Raising the price of my dances.

    It's the old min/max curve--sell a million widgets for $1 each or sell 1 widget for $1,000,000!

    You have two avenues here:

    1) grandfather your regulars into the old price structure if they really have been your bread and butter,


    2) break your regulars up into two or three groups and then test your new pricing on them--this will give you an idea of what the market will bear. Make sure to see that if they're too resistant to give them a break back to the old price.

    Track to see if you are getting the same amount from the regulars just with less dances, or if you are coming out ahead. If you are getting less dances, see if you are making up for it with new customers...

    (Edited this as it got submitted prematurely!)

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    Default Re: Raising the price of my dances.

    I say go for it, as well, if the club will allow you to do so.

    I personally have always had the motto to work smarter not harder. If you can sell less no. of dances and make the same amount (if not more) money ... then you have just worked smarter.

    If it doesn't work, then just go back to normal prices and ask for a tip.
    Last edited by GoldCoastGirl; 08-02-2005 at 05:32 PM.


    enter: E3167322D9 for your 10% discount

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    Default Re: Raising the price of my dances.

    I would suggest you only do the cheaper dances one time, then use it as an upsell to the more expensive ones. For example, do a $10.00 dance, then say, "That was an appetizer. If you would like to have a MUCH better dance with more skin, more contact, and more fun, the rest will be $20.00. Sound good?"

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    Default Re: Raising the price of my dances.

    Selling dances for more than the club states makes you a ROB. Promising a better dance (with implied contact) and then not delivering makes you a top tier ROB. I realize everyone here likes to sugarcoat the truth, but them's the facts. No amount of rationalizing will change that.

    If you want to charge more for a dance, work at a club that charges more, plain and simple. You work for someone else, therefore you charge what they have determined is the proper amount for that good or service, not what you think it should be (higher or lower).

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    Default Re: Raising the price of my dances.

    What is a ROB?


    From GoldCoastGirl: Rip Off Bitch = ROB. It is a derogatory (sp?) term used to describe dancers who 'rip off' patrons in some form or manner.
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    Hmm. This kind of depends on where you work. In some clubs, girls all have different prices and negotiate them frequently; Memphis comes to mind. But if the stated price at your club is $10, well, that's pretty much it. Some guys will bristle and react like you are, as Chili puts it, a ROB. I just think that, like asking for a tip, charging more than the club price for dances is hard. At my club, the only place I do this is in VIP, where I won't do specials (during times/days when dances are two for one or $10, my dances are still $20 in VIP, which is still no higher than the normal dance price during peak times). I have not experimented with charging, say, $30 a dance back there during $20 dance times, because that runs the risk of promising more than I deliver.

    However, wtf is up with the 3 for $25? Do you really need to discount a $10 dance in the first place? I'd tend to advise you to head for a nice normal $20 dance club.

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    Default Re: Raising the price of my dances.

    Amen! I know we are treated as independant contractors, but the customers could care less. This type of game just feeds into their resentment of strippers are money-grubbing. The less you talk about prices and charges, the easier it is to sell the fantasy.

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    Default Re: Raising the price of my dances.

    We had another thread on this subject last year:

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3745

    Theorhetically, I see nothing wrong with doing this provided that you explain this to your customers that you're operating outside of normal SOP for that club. This way they know exactly what they're paying for.

    It all comes down to mathematics. If you can still sell half the dances you can at $20 ($20 x 10 = $200), that you sell now at $10 ($10 x 20 = $200), then logic would tell you that its worth it. You make the same amount of money in half the time.

    Needless to say, clientele at downscale and midscale establishments are generally more "quantity" than "quality" minded, and may not see the value of an upgrade that costs twice as much. If they try the $10, and they don't like it, you probably wont sell them any more $10 dances, let alone the $20 dance. If they do like the $10 dance, they might see more value in buying multiples of those than going for a $20.
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    I usually ask if they want good 20, better 40 or best 60.When i feel confident 40,60,80. They always say best, then i tell the prices. Never fails (so far anyways) they will pick a tier and be happy and stick with it. I give the same dance everytime, I have never had to change it. If they pick best for 60 they keep getting 60s, if they pick good for 20, they like it so much they keep getting 20s. If they decided to get a higher one I do have some extra moves saved up, but this has never come up.

    Also my regulars get the standard or pay hourly I don't want to mess up a good thing with them. And I am not employed by my club, so I set my own prices. If they ever ask I tell them these are options , no one has ever had a problem with it. Most of my dances are 40s since i have been doing this.

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    Default Re: Raising the price of my dances.

    Sounds like a simple enough strategy, but one thing to keep in mind is that you describe your club as one where all dances are given out in the open.

    There are a few places I've been to like that, where either the dances are given to customers at their seats, or the "private dance" area is given in a semi-private part of the club. Either way other customers can see the dance.

    In these types of places I've always felt that the dancer is not only selling the dance to the guy she is with, but also selling her next dance as well. Yeah some dopes will watch someone else's dance just to get a free show, but often times customers take the opportunity in that type of setting to see which dancers perform the style of dance they are looking for.

    My concern would be uninformed customers crossing you off their potential dance card because they notice you giving the $5 or $10 dance, not knowing the pricing structure, and that there may be something else available. You may loose the opportunity to even approach them and explain your "menue" of options. Just a thought to keep in mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan Wayward
    Hmm. This kind of depends on where you work. In some clubs, girls all have different prices and negotiate them frequently; Memphis comes to mind. But if the stated price at your club is $10, well, that's pretty much it. Some guys will bristle and react like you are, as Chili puts it, a ROB. I just think that, like asking for a tip, charging more than the club price for dances is hard. At my club, the only place I do this is in VIP, where I won't do specials (during times/days when dances are two for one or $10, my dances are still $20 in VIP, which is still no higher than the normal dance price during peak times). I have not experimented with charging, say, $30 a dance back there during $20 dance times, because that runs the risk of promising more than I deliver.

    However, wtf is up with the 3 for $25? Do you really need to discount a $10 dance in the first place? I'd tend to advise you to head for a nice normal $20 dance club.

    Agreed. Customers do not like listening to the price menu. They feel offended. They want the best dance you can give for the club's stated amount. Furthermore, $10 dance establishments attract extremely cheap customers. They do not visit $20 dance clubs for a reason.

    Move to a $20 club. Your pockets will thank you. You will have better customers.

    Quote Originally Posted by colleen
    Some girls allow custys to grab boobs and crotch, however this in not only revolting, also illegal, and can (supposedly) get you fired. I woudl like to avoid this.
    Now this makes it impossible to upsell anything. If customers are used to this, you will be expected to whore yourself if you request more money for your time.

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    Default Re: Raising the price of my dances.

    I will not pay above the posted rate - ever. If a dancer tries to overcharge me I will immediately dump her and find another one. I do not pay below the posted rate either.

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    Default Re: Raising the price of my dances.

    I wouldn't have different prices. It will get in my head. I would say stick with the higher end and if a guy asks why its so expensive just say because i offer the best ass grinding and I love it.

    Different pricing for different dances seems like to much of an act.

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    Default Re: Raising the price of my dances.

    In my club, there are signs posted in the dance areas saying "dance prices negotiable $20-$30"

    if they dont ask, i ask if theyve ever been here before and if they say no, ill usually charge 30...and they dont complain...if they ask i say 30, but they usually try to get me down to 20....ill then sometimes try 1 for 25 or 3 for 60....so i know if im going to charge the minimum, ill at least get more than one dance....it works most of the time....

    i dont know what it is, but i think some guys like the negotiations part....they wanna feel like theyre getting some sor tof deal or discount

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    Default Re: Raising the price of my dances.

    yep I always negotiate or try to make them think they got a better deal. They dont put anything up that says what the rates are. I try to get 35 to 40 for nude, 20-25 for topless or 3 for 100, 3 for 75 etc.

    custys always want it as low as possible, but you can do better than the dereks of the world. Just have to learn how to tell the dereks from the good custys.
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    Yeah....just watch the way they treat the waitress......... -_-;

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    exactly.
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