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    Sunday night, i met a regular who thought i was beautiful, great but most of all, he said he was taken back because he thought I had a kind heart and he could relate. He kept buying me drinks and he told me he was glad I had sat next to him, he couldn't stand the other girls. So, we get a dance and then he asks me for VIP and what goes on, and i say u can caress me but noo touching down there whatsoever. So, he said "ohh but i wanted to play down there", so finally he says he respects me and we have another drink. Next thing, he's taking one of the girls to VIP and they're there for an hour. This has happened to me twice. It's very annoying. I guess it keeps me from making all that i can make.

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    well, honestly - it sounds like this guy wouldn't be worth the irritation. CLEARLY he was looking for a tramp to be dirty with, and he got it. Don't lower yourself to that and DON'T feel bad for "missing out" on money because you aren't going to slut it up.

    One thing that may work is to be a little more vague when they ask "what goes on." Sell the privacy, the intimacy, the experience. Tell them how much fun you'll have and that YOU really would like to play in the champagne/VIP/etc, with them. If this answer doesn't satisfy them and they are pushing you to say that you will do extras - leave. Tell them that you're a dancer, not a prostitute. They are either a dog sniffing out a piece of ass or an undercover cop waiting to get you to say/commit to something to get you in trouble.

    Good luck hun. I know how you're feeling, btw... it can be extremely frustrating. But you're above the BS

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    Tampadancer is right. Money is never worth it if it makes you compromise what you feel is right. Don't beat yourself up over this, rather you should be feeling great about this because you didn't let a customer do something to you that you didn't want. Look at it this way. You may have lost a little sleep over this on Sunday, but the girl he took to the VIP room will be looking a lot of sleep over this five and ten years from now.

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    If you had gone with him...he wouldve been mr grab-ass trying to do all sorts of things. Eventhough, youre getting money it wouldnt be worth compromising your metal and emotional stability. Besides, I see this as a slight downhill....soon there will be an uphill in your future where someone will truly want the privacy and intimacy of the champagne room. Youre turn will come.
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    That line he used about how he can relate, likes you, buys you drinks, blah blah blah. Oldest trick in the book to get the girl to open up. I guess you can call it our hustle.

    Also in some cases the nice girl finishes last

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    Quote Originally Posted by leebay88
    Also in some cases the nice girl finishes last
    I dont think its the nice girl that finishes last at all. The nice girl is the girl with a brain and knows that if she gives in even once or twice or more times just to make an extra 300 and extra few nights outta the year that she will feel like sh*t for years to come.

    There are no nice girls just ones with common sense. The others who give in will eventually end up angry and bitter b/c after so many times they gave in they really didnt get anything out of it.
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    Nice girls could finish last... in a sense that they did not make the most money ,as the other dancers did who are more liberating to the customers. But the nice dancers also made their living that night, and stayed within their comfort zone as well. This is what I feel is most important.
    In reference to Alicia's case. I can just imagine this guy going to the other dancer and telling her how dancer A ..does not offer EXTRA number 1. He was simply comparing and trying to get the most sexual experiance.( Which was not right, he should not have tried to play the nice customer ,and give you drinks and waste your time!)
    Obviously this guy found the girl who will let him "play down there". I do not think he would have wasted his time unless she gave him a good clue that it could happen.
    Screw that, I would rather Have the guy simply say off the bat that he is trying to get dirty in the backrooms. It is sooo much more irritating, when you spend the time with a guy, and really feel happy that you think you found a nice customer who wants what you have to offer.

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    Are you sure he was looking for extras? Not to say he wasn't, because it sounds like he was, but maybe he was the kind of guy that says that kind of stuff to every dancer. Maybe the other dancer is a better salesperson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silky
    Screw that, I would rather Have the guy simply say off the bat that he is trying to get dirty in the backrooms. It is sooo much more irritating, when you spend the time with a guy, and really feel happy that you think you found a nice customer who wants what you have to offer.
    I would also rather have a girl say " I want X amount of dollars out of you and this is what you are going to get". We are all going to try to get the most for our money (extras and no extras) sometimes one side will get burnt. It's great when both sides agree. It's just the way it is.

    In this case. I would be happy with some nice boob rubbing and ass grinding as long as you're hot. This guy just wanted a little more. Can't blame him for going after what he wants/

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    thanks for your replies. I would have let him touch my boobs and grind but i don't need anybody's hands down there. That's what he wanted. C'mon dirty fingers up my stuff. noo way. Just the boob thing is pretty sexual enough for me.

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    Good for you! I am proud of you for sticking to your morals....you've got a head on ur shoulders.

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    Yea Alicia I agree...dirty fingers all up in your twat is a no-no for me too thats just asking for a yeast infection or a UTI.
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    I hear what your saying, with some of these people, you are better taking the way out. Putting up with a lot of BS is not top in my list of priorities. However, you have to be ready for a challenge if you still want to try and sell a dance to these type of people and for this reason, I think that there is some truth in what Emily posted. There are some guys who are full of the talk and you have to have some patience and some chat of your own to talk around them and manage to get them for a dance while diverting their attention away from touching. It cannot always work but it definitely can be done.

    I also think that with you spending a lot of time with this guy, allowing him to flatter you for ages without him paying you before the subject of dancing came up might have hurt your hustle too. After all, he may not have felt any more use of your company as he got it for free for most of his visit anyway.
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    Yes, don't feel bad. I don't even try to ask guys to go up to the champagne room anymore. I don't allow a guy to touch my breasts or butt & barely let him touch my thigh area or arms. Sometimes I will come across a nice man who doesn't mind & will take me up to VIP. But this is very rare, so I make my money hustling the floor. At the end of the night, it makes me feel much better knowing that I worked hard instead of taking the easy way out. I always remind myself how much money I am making regardless & to not worry about how much "more" I could be making if I did extras in the champagne room. It's already difficult enough emotionally to be a dancer, so don't compromise anything else if you're not comfortable...

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    Puh-leeze. If I actually THOUGHT about how much more I could make if I was dirty, I'd hurt myself.

    Don't think about it for another minute, Alicia. You'll make yourself sick. Just know that while you can look yourself in the mirror every day, the girls that do extras can not...
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