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    I run into guys (they are not all young either) that say they don't have any money when I try to sell them dances. Some say they don't have an ATM card.

    Some of these guys may borrow part of the $20 for one dance from a friend, and then I know I did well to sell one dance.

    Others I am tempted to make empty their pockets. I do fault some of the clubs for this, because they are run in a manner where some of the customers feel if they buy one dance and tip on stage that is good. I work in small towns, so some of the clientele is a little rough around the edges.

    I do extremely well in these clubs with certain customers, but I would like to find a way to get these guys who are crying broke, to buy more than one dance. If I could increase my numbers with 3 out of 10 guys like this, it would probably be worth $800- $1000 more a month.

    Any lines you top hustlers use to make these guys buy more than one, when they "claim" to be short on funds?

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    A good first step is to use an either/or question that makes an assumption. For example, when a customer says that he wants a dance, you should ask, "Awesome. Do you have enough cash for a few dances or do we need to make a trip to the ATM machine first?" This pretty much will pre-qualify him for all the issues you are having.

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    Sometimes there is nothing you can do. I've worked at clubs that sold a bucket of 10 bottles of beer for $10 every Tuesday in a college town. The bar would be packed but the dancers weren't the draw the cheap drinks were. You just have to quickly determine if this particular customer is there for the dancers, and if not just move on to the next guy until you can find someone who has the ability to spend a couple of $$ on you either by getting him to stage to tip the last $5 in his pocket or getting him to the ATM to buy that one dance he can afford.


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    And then sometimes this is a big fat LIE. Take tonight....

    Two young (around 18 ) guys come in, 30 minutes before closing. I tease and flirt with them real quick, get told they're broke because they went gambling tonight and lost $500. I go on stage, then come back and tease them some more...they say they'll each get a dance "in a minute". I point out that we close in 15 minutes, so we better get busy. I take one of them back....

    Do one dance, Dj announces we have two songs left..custy says he'll get a second song and then buy his buddy the last song. Throws me the cash for the three dances, and an EXTRA $45 tip. Ya, they were SO broke.

    Sometimes the hustle tricks will work on these "broke" guys, sometimes they won't. I try to just play around with them...and if they want a dance, they'll usually get it eventually. Or they'll leave with no dances, or they'll get dances from someone else because they told you they were broke instead of just telling you "no thank you"....UGH!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DancerWealth
    A good first step is to use an either/or question that makes an assumption. For example, when a customer says that he wants a dance, you should ask, "Awesome. Do you have enough cash for a few dances or do we need to make a trip to the ATM machine first?" This pretty much will pre-qualify him for all the issues you are having.
    This could work but I can see how using a line like this is more likely to work against you. Although you want to hustle these guys, I think putting a lot of emphasis on money will hurt your sell, especially if you do not make an effort to promote your lapdances within the same sentence or follow the sentence up with some sort of benefit they will be getting out of taking a trip to the ATM. I say this because in my experience, if you just talk about up-front payment or you ask him to whip out the plastic without offering him an incentive as to why, he's more likely to feel milked.

    For example, you could add to the sentence that if he has enough for a few dances/wants to go to the ATM, it means that there won't be any interruptions in your time together and that it'll enable you to give him an extended cracker of a LD (or something along those lines, I'm sure you get the script).
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    Quote Originally Posted by DancerWealth
    A good first step is to use an either/or question that makes an assumption. For example, when a customer says that he wants a dance, you should ask, "Awesome. Do you have enough cash for a few dances or do we need to make a trip to the ATM machine first?" This pretty much will pre-qualify him for all the issues you are having.
    If a dancer pulled this stunt on me, I would dump her and find another one. Until I have a dance with a gal - how am I supposed to know I would want more. Her dances may be lousy for all I know. Besides, I am the one in control not her.

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    In some of the clubs I work in, guys have to buy a dance ticket from the DJ, and the club gets $5 to $8 in one club off of the dances. Then we get the cash for our dances less the clubs cut, at closing time.

    So to buy one dance ticket and then decide that they want more, means at the beginning of the second song they have to reach in the pocket again, which breaks the momentum.

    Derek, those of us who have had dancer training are taught selling skills, and all trained salepeople are TAUGHT to CONTROL the sale, not let the customer control them.

    A trained saleperson therefore is using techniques to make a customer feel obligated to spend more.

    I am a former Houston dancer Derek, and you Houston locals only buy dances that lead to sex, so you use the one dance "test drive" approach to see who will deliver for the best price. The larger topless clubs in Houston have so many dancers making competition between each other tough, and customers know they will find someone who will give in.

    In many other cities, guys buy from us because of attraction, knowing they are not getting sex in the club, at the most good grinding, and if a guy is attracted to us, why not buy 2 dances instead of one? We are trying to increase our dance sales.

    I am merely trying to find a way to minimize the one dance customers, and get guys in some of the towns I work in, who think going to a strip club is about sitting at the tip rail and maaaybe springing for one dance, to being taught that going to a club is about buying dances more than tipping on stage.

    I am trying to get the small club owners who don't have their clubs set up to maximize dance sales to make changes too.

    Dancer Wealth, I am going to try that approach with some of the iffy guys.

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    The reason I use the technique I listed often is because it works in a variety of situations. Although I understand your point of view Malibu, something to remember is that you use this method once they have already committed to buying from you. This won't kill the sale because the sale is already made, and the chance of a customer saying "no thanks" to you once you have said this is virtually non-existent because he is already committed. It's a subtle assumption and is not as in-your-face as you might thing. It also will eliminate the issue that Tina is having as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris
    I've worked at clubs that sold a bucket of 10 bottles of beer for $10 every Tuesday in a college town.
    Wow that sucks really hard that the club is doing that. It's begging to get cheap customers in.

    I sometimes complain (to myself, of course) that drinks are way expensive at clubs when I'm going as a customer. But then I remind myself, if I can't fork over $5 for a bottle of beer, how can I fork over $60-$80 for lapdances?

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    the c lub i have been working at has starteed $1 drinks the month of august and I was shocked the other nite when I worked. It was such a drastic change. the men were total assholes and very disrespectful. can't tell you how many times i heard "this is my last dollar". and one girl got *pennies* thrown at her on stage and she slipped on one

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    DW, that's a good idea; I'll have to try that soon.

    I know it's also not a sure fire way to tell if they are broke or not but; I watch what they are drinking. Specifically not how many but what kind.

    If they are drinking the $1.50 Busch Lt special, I try to hustle the $5.00 Guinness drinker first. Or better yet, the 21yr Glenlivet drinkers.

    The psycology behind this is that if they have the kind of taste to spend that money on quality alcohol, they they SHOULD be able to afford a few dances.

    If that fails, or the more expensive drinkers leave, then I progress to the lower liquors.

    I know it sounds funny, but it has worked. I figure if a man knows his liquor, and has expensive shoes on, then he has extra money to bank his tip roll with.

    Call me crazy, but it does work sometimes...

    DW correct me if my thinking is wrong on this point, please.
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