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    Yesterday was just one of those days where everybody's favorite flavor was Mia. I'm not complaining about being busy, I just can't seem to juggle all the customers and eventually end up pissing off a couple of people 'cause i can't get to them before my shift is up.

    How do some of you custies feel when your club favorite can't spend as much time with you 'cause she's busy? If you asked a girl for a dance and she said she had a couple of people to take care of but would find you in a minute, how would you react? What if she found you after awhile and politly told you she was not going to be availible for the rest of the evening? How do you think we should haddle these situations?

    I could've probaly made at least an additional $300 yesterday if I knew how to manage my customers better. How do some of you girls do it? How do you spend enough time and make each regular feel special when they show up at the same time? How do you handle three to four guys approaching you at the same time for dances? What do you do when you know you're not going to be able to get to someone in a timely manner or at all?

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    If it were me, I'd rather just get a heads up that she's busy... there's always another day or another dancer.... sitting there waiting gets old fast, though.

    But, 'I have to do some dances and then I'll see you' -- I hear that all the time... why would I have a problem with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mia M
    Yesterday was just one of those days where everybody's favorite flavor was Mia. I'm not complaining about being busy, I just can't seem to juggle all the customers and eventually end up pissing off a couple of people 'cause i can't get to them before my shift is up.

    How do some of you custies feel when your club favorite can't spend as much time with you 'cause she's busy? If you asked a girl for a dance and she said she had a couple of people to take care of but would find you in a minute, how would you react? What if she found you after awhile and politly told you she was not going to be availible for the rest of the evening? How do you think we should haddle these situations?

    I could've probaly made at least an additional $300 yesterday if I knew how to manage my customers better. How do some of you girls do it? How do you spend enough time and make each regular feel special when they show up at the same time? How do you handle three to four guys approaching you at the same time for dances? What do you do when you know you're not going to be able to get to someone in a timely manner or at all?
    Mia, if I was one of your regulars I would prefer initially acknowleging that I'm in the club and letting me know quickly you're with a whale. These things happen, not a problem, just don't string us along.

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    Here's what I expect when I go into a club and my fav is tied up with another customer. I expect her to excuse herself fairly soon from the other customer, come over to say a quick hello, and tell me about how long she expects to be tied up. And if it turns out that she's going to be a lot longer than she first thought (eg. the guy decides to do a 1/2 hour VIP when he doesn't usually do so), she should come over and tell me that as soon as she finds out. And if the situation is reversed, I expect her to do exactly the same thing - I've had that happen many times and always complimented the girl on how well she handled the situation. As long as she's courteous to me and keeps me informed, I'm happy. Let common courtesy be your guide. Yes there will be customers who get pissed off anyway. That's their problem not yours. Those aren't the people you want as regulars anyway because they will cause you more problems than they are worth..
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    To maximize your income you need to somehow work it out that your best customers come in on different days or at different times. Otherwise you are going to piss off somebody, guaranteed. Every customer wants to believe that he is "special" to you. This approach may require some OTC phone or email conversations to arrange scheduling.

    I spend more time with my fav OTC than ITC. But when we do hook up at the club, the timeframe is prearranged and she knows how much money she is getting. Its a slam dunk for her. In return I expect her to spend that club time with me and not drift off trying to take care of other customers. So far, it has worked out very well.

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    Every guy wants to think he is your favorite customer. That you are going to give him more attention than anyone else. However, since he can't know everyone else in the room, how does he know the score. He can't.

    For me, I don't really have an ATF or would I be considered any girls regular, but then again, it seems alot of guys, younger and older than me, have alot more disposable income, or are alot more willing to spend whatever they have, so I figure business is business. If I spent more, I'd get more.

    Quick story: At a club a few weeks ago, for the first time, smiled at a dancer and a few minutes later she comes over the table and sits with me and my wife. The first dancer to do so all night and she was a firecracker. We decided to get a few dances, 4 I think and it was great. At that time I think is was a little slow for her. I told her to give us a little break, and come back. Well, apparently two groups of guys came in and brought friends with them specifically to get dances from her. She got real busy real fast. It was getting late, and we needed to leave, so when she went on stage I went up to tip her and say goodbye, and I asked her if we could get another dance. I could tell these other groups were already inline but I had to ask. She said she'd let me know. I saw her go over and negociate with the other guys and sure enough she came over, we got our dances and we left. It did feel a little rushed, but still very fun. And I really appreciated her effort to get us what we wanted.

    Moral of the story, early bird gets the worm and it never hurts to ask.

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    I think if you really are busy, then that's fine - but be honest about it, and DON'T hustle others if you know you can't handle the extra custies. The last time I went to a new club, this dancer came to me and sat on my lap for about 9 seconds on her way to someone else. before she left, I asked her if I could buy her a drink and get a dance later, and she told me 'sure' (after her next set) - and to order her a shot. I went and got it, then she had to do her set. Then I tipped her for that, while I kept the shot at my table. After she was done with her three songs, I still kept the shot - but she went over to the BAR, and stood around some other guy for next 30 minutes! I think it was probably her boyfriend too, (which, btw, I think girls should NEVER bring their BF's in)... But when I finally saw her again, I had drank the shot myself, and she gave me some bullshit story about her costume having problems.

    Anyway, ladies - in case you need to be told, when you make us wait for you for no good reason, it makes us feel like idiots and PISSES US OFF! I could have tipped for three stage shows and gotten two LD's from other dancers during the time I waited, and would have been fine with this. If you do have someone else to tend to, at least try to do it out of our eyesight and check in with us with at least some story (even if its a fib), from time to time. But a sorry excuse when you finally get back is no good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mia M
    How do some of you custies feel when your club favorite can't spend as much time with you 'cause she's busy? If you asked a girl for a dance and she said she had a couple of people to take care of but would find you in a minute, how would you react? What if she found you after awhile and politly told you she was not going to be availible for the rest of the evening? How do you think we should haddle these situations?
    It kind of sucks when this happens, but I believe in a policy of "first come, first serve", and its not like you can clone a second one of yourself to handle the overflow traffic. Truthfully, I'd just either warm up with another dancer or save my cash for another time.

    It's times like these that some sort of prearrangement would be beneficial to both parties. Each of them gets your undivided attention for their block of time, and you get their money. Some sort of informal scheduling with your regulars via e-mail would help things. At the very least, let your regs know your schedule and try your best to emphasize them coming in during off peak hours if possible.

    Whatever you do, don't hustle or accept offers for more dances when you know that you're going to be tied up for a little while. I think expecting a customer to wait more than 20-30 minutes before leaving or finding another dancer is too much.
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    Thanks for the feedback! I do take care of my regulars first and try to keep them on a schedule, but sometimes one or two will pop in and surprise me. It's only gonna get worse because I start school Monday and I'll only be able to work Saturadys. Keep the advice comming, 'cause I'm gonna need it!

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    I hate when that happens. Even though I make a crapload of money, that extra $300-$500 that gets away stinks! The only advice I can give is to try and gauge who can wait the longest. Between each guy, just pop by and keep the others warm until you're ready for them.
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    Ditto on what FBR said.

    Some form of communication is helpful to make sure it continues to go as planned, whether e-mail or cell.

    It works like clock-work almost all of the time with this one. The last one dropped the ball and I had to wait longer and longer, so bye-bye.

    But I do tend to pick ones, not really by plan, that are great, but somehow less busy.

    >>>Sad<<<

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    I try to spread my regulars out over the weekdays that I work. It always looks good when you do well on a day that everyone else is doing crap. I do keep in touch with them as well and try to pace my nights so that I can get to everyone.
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    A somewhat related story: I once had a regualr who I really liked - she was attractive, a good dancer, fun to talk to and very pleasant. But she had one bad habit, she wan't very considerate. Once I was sitting with her when another regular came in, she excused herself to greet him, said she would be right back, then spent the next hour talking to him. I got up and left. Several other times when I went in she was talking to other girls who worked there, and instead of joing me right away she'd make me wait for half an hour while she continued to talk. She wasn't my regular for very long. Why do dancers do stuff like this? It ended up costing her a lot of money. And this club was never very busy, several times I was the only customer there and she still made me wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sadbuttrue
    But I do tend to pick ones, not really by plan, that are great, but somehow less busy.

    >>>Sad<<<
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinahSky
    I hate when that happens. Even though I make a crapload of money, that extra $300-$500 that gets away stinks! The only advice I can give is to try and gauge who can wait the longest. Between each guy, just pop by and keep the others warm until you're ready for them.
    Damn, just when I was starting to no longer feel like an ATM, I read this

    Seriously, there is a money risk involved in trying to play both ends against the middle. Its effective in trying to manage your rookie customers since they dont know any better but most guys with club experience won't wait around for very long. A dancers absence for ten minutes in the dressing room to freshen up is about my limit.

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    I'd say go straight to regular #1, tell him it's a really busy night as many of your regulars just happened to show up on the same day and you weren't sure what to do but you wanted to talk to him first. As a regular, he'll feel special by believing he was first choice whether it's true or not and will more than likely skip any conversational foreplay and go straight to dances. I would advise the opposite from some of the other guys here and say not to make eye contact with regular #2. After the dance is over, you can go to #2 and pretend you didn't notice when he walked in the club. It is dark in there after all. Repeat process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob_Loblaw
    I'd say go straight to regular #1, tell him it's a really busy night as many of your regulars just happened to show up on the same day and you weren't sure what to do but you wanted to talk to him first. As a regular, he'll feel special by believing he was first choice whether it's true or not and will more than likely skip any conversational foreplay and go straight to dances. I would advise the opposite from some of the other guys here and say not to make eye contact with regular #2. After the dance is over, you can go to #2 and pretend you didn't notice when he walked in the club. It is dark in there after all. Repeat process.
    Sounds complicated and with one slip up, you will crash and burn.

    Just schedule your regulars and be done with it. That way you dont have to try and lay SS on them which they likely wont believe anyway. Most serious clubbers would prefer to dispense with the bullshit.

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    Some dancers like to treat men like sh!t. It's an ego thing. I persoanlly dont' subscribe to that kind of thinking. As I said before, I just do my best to check back on those that are waiting so that they know that I haven't forgotten about them. They seem to appreciate that, even if I can't get around to dancing for them. They always come back. I make sure that I get everyone in the order that they arrived in, though. It's only fair.
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    That same thing happened to me Dirrtyd. I saw a dancer on stage, and everytime she was dancing at my stage, I would tip her well, smile and make eye contact, encourage my friend to tip her, and was respectful to her. After the 3rd set she had done at my stage, she stepped down near me, collected an extra tip from me, and while handing it to her, I asked if she would give me a lap dance once she got herself together. She gave me a big smile and said, "Sure, give me about 5 minutes." 45 minutes later, she hadn't left the dressing room. She hadn't been out to hustle all night or anything. I figured for an assured $35 she would've at least given me the dance then high-tailed it back to the dressing room. Why tell a customer that you'll do something, then not do it? That's bad business, especially when they've been treating you right all night. That happened last time I went to my club. Maybe she forgot, althought I don't see how she could've as I was only one of about 55 customers.
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    I know how you feel DSUsb19.

    You know, people (esp. men) go to the strip club instead of a regular bar because they're always guaranteed to see some skin, no matter what. Plus, if they've got an extra twenty in their wallet, they're guaranteed to get some touching action.

    So, when dancer makes me sit there and wait like an idiot, the guarantee goes out the window, and I start getting paranoid about why some of these girls won't even take good money to dance with me. If I've had a few beers, I might take it personally and go home feeling pathetic and miserable.

    The worst part, is when the situation goes down like your story - the girl isn't even dancing for other custy's, but instead they're just farting around in the dressing room or at the bar. I think it's not really a matter of being rude, but just laziness.

    I don't want to demean all dancers everywhere, but I DO think many dancers just aren't very good workers. When you dance, you basically work for tips only. So, dancing isn't like a regular job, where you get your ass fired for slacking around and being lazy, because it doesn't really affect the manager's bottom line whether you work hard or not.

    I'm positive that lots of dancers at my local club couldn't (and can't) hold down regular daytime jobs, even if they wanted them. I think laziness is a big part of the reason.

    Does anyone else have any thoughts?

    Keep up the good fight though... dd

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    Fuck 'em! If you're banking on the hustle, regulars can wait for break time. That's the nature of the beast. I've tried going that route, and its truly less stressful and more profitable to be "shiny and new". If they want it so badly, they can wait or come back.

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    If you are honest with your regulars, they will remember that. If you are busy (they can see this), try to take a moment to talk to him or just to get a drink break with him. More than likely he will end up buying his dances right after the drink break is done. Then, move on to the next regular.

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    Exactly Dirtyd. She hadn't left the dressing room all night. She hadn't sold any laps or privates. She would only go out on stage calls, dance, collect her tips, then go back into the dressing room. Maybe she wasn't feeling well, but she danced really well and had a good energy about her. I didn't understand it. I have a great rep with the dancers at the club for tipping well and being respectful. She'd seen me before. Most of the other girls were out hustling because it was a slow night and they were trying to make at least a little something. I didn't understand why they ALL weren't out hustling. It would seem to me that something would be better than nothing.



    I agree with the laziness idea though. HOWEVER, that's any and everywhere; and it's getting worse. The problem these days is that no one wants to work hard. People want maximum profit for minimal work done. It's logical, but the world doesn't work like that.
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    DSUsb19, why would you bother to spend money on someone that treats you that way?
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    Before that happened, she had been really good to me while she was on stage. I would tip her and she'd dance right in front of me and give me the eyes and all that good stuff. Plus she agreed to give me the dance so I figured she'd follow through. She didn't, and I didn't see her anymore after that. I was giving her the benefit of the doubt that maybe she just forgot. People forget, but next time I see her, I'll think twice about it.
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    Maybe she doesn't like to ld for women, but didn't want to tell you that to your face...

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