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    Default Re: "You're too nice, I'd feel guilty buying a dance from you..."

    Quote Originally Posted by GoldCoastGirl
    This is why I do School Girl so damn well. Not only do I have the petite, natural body to pull it off... I also opt to look like the 'innocent' not the punk or bitch version of School Girl (more 'natural' looking make-up and style of costume). I then work this angle (bubbly, personable, not swearing, a little coy) and say how naughty I really am in a more intimate private setting.

    Actually, I girl I work with suggested I do the school girl thing and it has been working well for me...she said, just go with what you have. Assertive with an attitude does work well, but it is the norm at our club (lots of outspoken french canadian gals, and they have this thing down to an art! I can't compete with that!)...sooo the bubbly blond in a plaid skirt makes for an original look and persona which I sorta do naturally anyway (as I said, I have an embarrassing little girl voice). It's helped out thus far, as have all these clever comebacks on this thread! Thanks all!

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    Default Re: "You're too nice, I'd feel guilty buying a dance from you..."

    I've heard that "you're too nice" crap too...That is total BS...it's a brush off..or maybe you just spend too much time talking to them and telling them about yourself...If a costumer doesn't ask for a dance after 15 minutes, ask if they want one...if they say "maybe later"...check back later because time is money, and don't tell them too much about yourself because I believe that's what makes them think you're so sweet and nice...

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    Default Re: "You're too nice, I'd feel guilty buying a dance from you..."

    If I am really into a dancer both ITC and OTC then I will tell her she means more than a "paid grope" to me and I would prefer to spend time and $$ in another setting. If she believes I am sincere and the feelings are mutual (meaning she sees me more as a PERSONAL friend than a BUSINESS ATM), then good things can be developed... Doesn't happen that often though

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    Default Re: "You're too nice, I'd feel guilty buying a dance from you..."

    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish
    Customer to English Translation:

    "Maybe Later" ----> No
    "I Wanna See You On Stage First" ---> No
    "I'm Not Ready Yet" ----> No
    "You're Too Nice" ----> No

    If they feed you the "too nice" line, all you can do is wish them well, tell them your name, and that you'll be happy to accomidate them later if they have a change of heart and wish to see your naughty side.
    I get the "maybe later" line all the time... but first I try to "convince" them to have a dance "now"... then I say see them later on after they have a drink or two... 1/2 of the time I end up getting a dance from them.

    I'm usually pretty rude to the "I wanna see you on stage first" - what's that supposed to mean? O_o I bet it's a euphamism for "I'm broke and came in for a free perv".

    Usually the guys who claim that they are "not ready yet" are either easily convinced that they _ARE_ ready with a bit of cuteness mixed with seduction and humour I think it just means that they are not too sure or need some convincing.

    Some guys I think like the more dominating/confident type rather than the cute/innocent type, I try to see what kind of customer I think I'm approaching and act accordingly or mix confidence with cuteness when I'm unsure - works most of the time! If they say you seem "too nice" turn on the "seductive/dominating" self and tell them they are going to have a dance with you - if not now then later... Works for me :\

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    Default Re: "You're too nice, I'd feel guilty buying a dance from you..."

    It's probably a brush off


    OR:
    you're too real, be their fantacy.
    You've spent too much time. Ask for a dance sooner, or they'll get tired of you

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    Default Re: "You're too nice, I'd feel guilty buying a dance from you..."

    I noticed someone wrote that "I just got here" is a brush-off. That one sometimes is and sometimes isn't. If a girl you don't find attractive comes up and asks for a dance and you just got there, it's a good polite reason to say no.

    BUT, sometimes you really did just get there and want to take in the scenery a bit before spending. My first few times in the club I did that and asked the girl to come back in a bit, not realizing it was widely percieved as a brush off line. Eh.

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    Default Re: "You're too nice, I'd feel guilty buying a dance from you..."

    This thread is about a year old. This doesn't happen to me anymore. Either I'm meaner or I just don't let losers waste my time anymore (the guys who come to talk and monopolize my time, trying to feel my thigh, without buying dances).

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    Default Re: "You're too nice, I'd feel guilty buying a dance from you..."

    I'm happy to see that's no longer a problem of ours!

    It's certainly something I'm dealing with now. When I think about it, I'm not putting enough 'sex' into the conversation I guess. I wish there was a class for this haha!

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    Default Re: "You're too nice, I'd feel guilty buying a dance from you..."

    Here's a few tips I've always found useful for non-commital patrons:

    *On a busy night, never sit with a guy longer than 4 songs. After 2 songs, ask for a dance. If they say they're not ready, give then 2 more. If they say no the second time, politely excuse yourself and LEAVE.

    *When someone says no from the onset: Introduce yourself and ask their name. Tell them to have a good time and that you'll check on them later. If you actually do and remember their name when you do it, you'd be surprised how many nos turn to yesses because they're impressed that you bothered to remember them.

    *Handling the over-intoxicated patron that won't stop telling you how beautiful you are, but does nothing else: Smile coyly and say, "So does that mean you're gonna give me all your money?" GUARANTEED, they either put up or shut up.

    Also, I can't stress the importance of politely excusing yourself when you're turned down. It's the tackiest thing on earth when a girl hurls obscenities at a guy because he tells her no. Some guys have to see you around a bit before they want to spend money on you. That'll never happen if you get defensive and rude. And if you're not their type or THEY'RE rude, why let them know they got to you? Every guy in the club should believe without question that you know you rock. And if YOU don't think that's true, tell yourself every day that it is and one day you'll wake up believing it.

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    I can relate. I used to get this all the time!!! And I'm not just talking about as a dancer in a strip club...this has happened throughout my personal life, too! Like you, I used to have long light blonde hair, was really bubbly to the point that people doubted my intelligence, and had an annoying nasal-sounding voice. People constantly mistaked me for being dumb, and mostly based on my looks more than my personality. When I was in early high school, I asked my co-worker "Brain" why his friends wouldn't go for me. I whined, "Maybe I'm not pretty enough" and he responded with, "Not necessarily. You're too innocent." That was a major insult, because here I was, spying on his friends like a perv and undressing them with my eyes, in the same exact way that he'd spied on MY high school female friends when they did their fundraiser car wash outside our work! Later in time when I became more "slutty," most of Brain's friends started going for me or at least trying to get me! But even when I finally *was* sexually active, a lot of people that didn't know me that well, all assumed that I was this innocent virgin, simply because I looked young/innocent! (grrrrr)

    Then a few years later when I started dancing, I ditched the blonde hair but I still had an innocent look because I was tall, thin, flat-chested, and basically resembled a 13-yr-old girl. I was very shy and acted too real(Ironically enough, I might of sounded "real," but in reality I was fibbing about some parts of my life to cover up a crappy situation I was in at the time). People told me that I was "too nice," too. One time in particular, some asshole guy took up some of my time by asking me all these questions about my life and why I started dancing, got up in the middle of our convo to go dance with some other girl, then later after my set when I went up to him and his friends for tips, he didn't tip me but simply said, "You're too humble to be a stripper." I was so annoyed!! To be honest, I'm not a bubbly innocent person at all, I simply acted that way because it felt safe for me and I felt so awkward, being a new dancer in a new environment and all. A few months later when I got my implants, I was able to pull off a more seductive look...wearing heavier make-up, corset and lingerie-type outfits, etc. Excessively smoking cigarettes has also minimized the nasaly sound of my voice and surprisingly I think my voice sounds better when I smoke(I know it'll catch up to me in a few yrs, tho). I found that I made a lot more money with the seductive look, than the innocent look.

    It's true, guys want a fantasy and not a "girl next door." LOL in words of a well-known female manager from one of my past clubs, she'd say "If the guys wanted to see the girl next door, they'd stay home and watch their neighbor." I've had a lot of the same problems as you. Everything that people have said, makes good sense. When they say that you're "too nice," it probably means that you're unassertive(a big problem of mine), spending too much time talking to them for free, and they probably tried to take advantage of the "free convo" while they could. I agree with the others on immediately talking dirty or talking about showing the wild/bad side of yourself. It's something I'd probably do. And if they said "Uh, I'm ok" in a bored tone(which is the ULTIMATE brush off), I'd show them just how "nice" I really am(sarcasm) by getting up real quick and walking away with my nose in the air. It's not the best method I know, but then again I've been getting too burned out on the industry lately...

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    Default Re: "You're too nice, I'd feel guilty buying a dance from you..."

    Well if you are "friends" with this guy ITC and OTC then perhaps it does feel awkward for him... I have several mutual dancer "friends" that just hang out with me, I will buy them drinks and just "chill".

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    Default Re: "You're too nice, I'd feel guilty buying a dance from you..."

    Quote Originally Posted by laplover69
    Well if you are "friends" with this guy ITC and OTC then perhaps it does feel awkward for him... I have several mutual dancer "friends" that just hang out with me, I will buy them drinks and just "chill".
    I noticed you have referred to "spending $ OTC" in another comment...not every dancer wants to see you OTC. The issue at hand was that she wasnt sucessful b/c she wasnt aggressive enough and probably wasnt a strong deal closer...NOT b/c she didnt want to see every damn customer (who had the "too nice" comment) OTC.

    Do you know how many times I've heard a guy say, "I dont want to get a dance, but I want to take you to dinner." Its insulting and it means you dont respect our job or the environment that you're in.

    of course, you may come from a small town where everyone knows everyone so it may not be a big deal to hang with club guys after work. but in big cities thats stupid and dangerous.

    but molly got her hustle mode on after some time, as she mentioned a few lines up so I guess it was just an affliction of being new to the game.
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