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    Okay, I have been dancing for 7 years. And I have always been a decent hustler. But this year has seemed to change for this business! I dont know if it is just in my area or not, but it just seems to me that guys are expecting so much for their $ now! And not only that.. my problem is.. is that there are SO MANY dirty girls who are willing to do what the guy ask, or do a little more. My club has always been more on the clean side for clubs in my location. But I have noticed that all the dirty chics make loot and the clean girls make sh*t lately!! The guys dont seem to want to spend their loot on the cute clean chics anymore!! (like they used to before) WHATS GOING ON!?! There seems to be more dirty girls than clean chics now! And its pissing me off so bad! I dont even make nealy as much money as I did through the past 6yrs. This year has made such a huge change all of a sudden! --Am I the only one going through this? Are girls getting dirtyer in other clubs also?? Uh.. its making me so aggravated!! Yuck! I just feel when I go and hustle now, its pointless! Because I will NEVER do any extras. So now, because of the girls becoming dirty... I only pulled $5,300 in july compared to last July 04' where I pulled $10,400! Maybe I should just quit?! or wait it out?! or hustle differently?! .. I am just blank right now............... Is anybody else going through this?

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    where are you working?

    I think if I worked in a place like Houston, Tampa, San Fransisco....places known for extras, I wouldn't consider leaving the business altogether, just moving.

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    Girl Im going thru the same thing. In my area, Daytona, I used to average about 150-300$ a night dancing, easy. Now, its hard to make even 100$ I have to literally bust my ass and beg for a dance. LITERALLY, just to make that 100$.
    At my club the house fee is 30$ to come in at 7pm. Half of the club comes in at 10pm when the house fees are at least 60-70$. How do they afford these fees? Because they do the xtras that makes them at least 500$ a night.
    It makes me feel like crap, being one of the most beautiful, personable girls here and leaving with 40-60$ in a 9 hr shift. I feel shit on, like my experience and everything I learned about dancing dosent mean a thing unless his dick is in my hand. . The biz is definately getting dryer here. In fact ( I mentioned this in another post) my VIP doorman even suggested that I give extras so that I can make $$ like the other dancers. Isnt it great>???

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    It may seem worse right now because money is tight all over.

    Perhaps most of the guys coming in are not the ones with the disposable income, but the raincoaters who see it as a necessity instead of a luxury? I dunno.

    Hopefully all business will get better soon. When the money comes back, the clubs will clean up again.
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    oh my god I was having the same problem s at the club I was working, but I figured it was the nast y ones hating and starting drama and I just avoid it, so I just let them all click together and do their thing and I did mine, I am not going ot feed to it, but WOW.......it does suck, I remeber working 6 days a week and maybe making 100.00 that is f#@$ed up...oops, maybe I should just go back to school!

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    It sucks, but thats the way it is. I do not do extras in a club that is known for alotta extras and i still do great. I just figure those girls keep the nasty customers away from me. I would concentrate more on what you can control and how you can increase your earnings, not on other girls and what they do. There are always gonna be those kind of girls, but I wouldn't blame the entire difference in income from this year and last on that one scenario. There could be alot of other factors, but blaming it on something you can't control is not gonna help at all.

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    fyi... a couple of dancer's at my club of choice are getting more and more nasty with me (and I'm loving it!) - rubbing my penis thru my pants, kissing me on the lips and placing my hands on their breasts. I usually visit in the slow afternoons so I assume it's because they're all competing for my few hundred dollars during the afternoon. I feel bad because the girl I really like is not keeping up with the nasty girls and my dollars are starting to flow over to the dancers that get me breathing hard. Should I mention this to my fav dancer?... I'm sure she knows what's going on tho.

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    ^ WTF dude? If you want a hooker you can find one. Maybe I think a little more responsible than you but look at all the bad things that could happen by this going on. Hell if you want to pay her to have sex with you or just even a private dance it could be done OTC.

    By condoning this it will slowly drag down a club unless management catches wind of it and squashes it PDQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourWinns
    fyi... a couple of dancer's at my club of choice are getting more and more nasty with me (and I'm loving it!) - rubbing my penis thru my pants, kissing me on the lips and placing my hands on their breasts. I usually visit in the slow afternoons so I assume it's because they're all competing for my few hundred dollars during the afternoon. I feel bad because the girl I really like is not keeping up with the nasty girls and my dollars are starting to flow over to the dancers that get me breathing hard. Should I mention this to my fav dancer?... I'm sure she knows what's going on tho.
    Another shining example of the only thing I really can't stand about my job. Somebody please show this guy to the blue site.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FourWinns
    fyi... a couple of dancer's at my club of choice are getting more and more nasty with me (and I'm loving it!) - rubbing my penis thru my pants, kissing me on the lips and placing my hands on their breasts. I usually visit in the slow afternoons so I assume it's because they're all competing for my few hundred dollars during the afternoon. I feel bad because the girl I really like is not keeping up with the nasty girls and my dollars are starting to flow over to the dancers that get me breathing hard. Should I mention this to my fav dancer?... I'm sure she knows what's going on tho.
    Do have fun reading the posts on this side of the site, dude.

    You're about to realise what the great majority of dancers REALLY think about guys who want dancers to get "nasty" with them.

    Hope you enjoy finding out that they regard you as a total arseh*le who's $$$'s to them and nothing other than that.

    Phil.

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    I don't really mind the jist of this topic, it is worthy of debate for sure, but I think the characterization of other dancers as "dirty girls" is a bit out of line. Let alone saying they are "hated". In fact, I find it ironic that someone that a signicant number of people would characterize as dirty is here openly calling other women dirty.

    The bikini clad air dancer at the most respectable no-extras club in the nation is still a "dirty girl" to someone, be it the preachers wife down the street or the radical feminist who doesn't believe a woman should sell her sexuality to anyone for any price.

    Just as in alot of other things in life there are degrees of comfort for everyone and those may be quite different from person to person. For example, the couple who only likes missionary sex sees the couple who likes lights on sex doggie style as hedonists, while the lights on doggie stylers see the swingers as depraved. Yet they are all just pleasing themselves and not hurting anyone, providing they are all playing safely.

    What exactly makes one dancer dirty and another not? Topless dancing, nude dancing, a casual touch in the groin area, a hard touch with the leg, a grinding with the buttocks, a squeeze with the hand, a stroke with the hand, a hand in the pants, a bj, full blown sex. Sure some of these are easy, especially the last few, but the first several are totally dependent on your personal comfort level and environment.

    Personally I like a little contact, no skin to skin, but some grinding is nice. I also like a hot girl and a great dancer. I've had a good time at air dance clubs and grind clubs, but have never been offered an extra, nor have I asked for them. That is just my personal comfort level.

    Do I think grinding is good for the industry? Well as long as it is consentual and safe and legal why not. If it is not your bag, change your environment. Hell, I'd even support legalization of prostitution, might get rid of the pimps and crack whores, and make it a safer occupation.

    Unfortunately I am sure this will polarize me against a good number of people here, men and women alike, but I also hope I have expressed my views clearly and respectfully.

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    I'm not looking for a hooker. And what those girls are doing doesn't qualify for that label in my book. The lip kisses are what really got my attention and my additional dance money.

    My fav is still my fav because she does more to send me with her eyes, nose and hair than the others can do with their hands ands lips.

    I really do appreciate you girls comments about how you feel about those activities though.

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    ^ Kissing a customer = EWWWWWW to me. I do not swap any form of fluid with a customer. That's just asking for some fricken disease. Let's get mono and hand it out to 1000's of people, yaaaay!

    You want a girl who's been kissing everyone else to kiss you? Disgusting.

    No kissing, no licking. no no no. :-(

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    Nasty girls is what people that don't work in a strip club call us...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FourWinns
    I'm not looking for a hooker
    Well, thank you. But for every one that says that, there are four other guys that are.

    At least to my recent experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpeters1

    What exactly makes one dancer dirty and another not? .
    The same thing that makes one politician dirty and another not. The ones that are dishonest, unscrupulous, operating outside the law, hurting others for their own profit, and acting as if the rules don't apply to them.

    She didn't mean dirty in a sexual sense, but dirty in a corrupt sense. ANd those of us who are "clean" have every right to complain about those who are dirty. They hurt the business for everyone.


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    I can totally respect that Colleen, thanks. Substituting your language totally changes the tone and intent of the original post for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourWinns
    fyi... a couple of dancer's at my club of choice are getting more and more nasty with me (and I'm loving it!) - rubbing my penis thru my pants, kissing me on the lips and placing my hands on their breasts. I usually visit in the slow afternoons so I assume it's because they're all competing for my few hundred dollars during the afternoon. I feel bad because the girl I really like is not keeping up with the nasty girls and my dollars are starting to flow over to the dancers that get me breathing hard. Should I mention this to my fav dancer?... I'm sure she knows what's going on tho.
    Quote Originally Posted by colleen
    The same thing that makes one politician dirty and another not. The ones that are dishonest, unscrupulous, operating outside the law, hurting others for their own profit, and acting as if the rules don't apply to them.

    She didn't mean dirty in a sexual sense, but dirty in a corrupt sense. And those of us who are "clean" have every right to complain about those who are dirty. They hurt the business for everyone.
    Not only that but once again they ( the dirty/nasty girls ) promote and continue on the civilian propaganda that society loves to continuously grind out about this profession and it's employee's

    In these sorts of situations everyone is at risk - from LE and the threat of disease.
    I would direct you all to the CDC ( Center for disease control) and the site there about sexual transmitted disease - IE: Bodily fluid transfer

    FourWinns says he's not looking for a hooker.. WTF, you just enjoy Blue Balls that much? Unless your getting finished off in the club, which very well may be the case.

    Plus, it doesn't matter if the nasty girls are attractive or hideous, the facts are still the facts. That is the way the law looks at it, not in a moral way, but in a factual way.

    The Other Rhiannon.

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    She didn't mean dirty in a sexual sense, but dirty in a corrupt sense. ANd those of us who are "clean" have every right to complain about those who are dirty. They hurt the business for everyone.- Coleen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil-W
    Do have fun reading the posts on this side of the site, dude.

    You're about to realise what the great majority of dancers REALLY think about guys who want dancers to get "nasty" with them.

    Hope you enjoy finding out that they regard you as a total arseh*le who's $$$'s to them and nothing other than that.

    Phil.
    Should a dancer regard me as an asshole if it's another dancers actions she dislikes? Shouldn't she take it up with her co-worker afterwards if it's harming the club's rep and the other girls earnings?

    The dancer is in control of the dance. I don't ask for stuff. But if she does some legal things she and I are comfortable with I don't feel like an asshole for buying more and more dances.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crow
    FourWinns says he's not looking for a hooker.. WTF, you just enjoy Blue Balls that much? Unless your getting finished off in the club, which very well may be the case.

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    Thank you Sinn for making that point. I really dont think people understand the difference between a gentlemans club and a hooker on the street anymore. (they used to) But now, its all stirred up. I wish all the chics who *KNOW* they are doing harm to our business, would go back on the f*cking street. Thats all I have to say- You can hate me if U want..lol

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    FourWinns.. dude, just stop, Your quickly falling into the category of Derek. You can talk about it till your blue in the face. Those of us that have experienced it and are continuing to experience it wont change our minds.. In my day we took those sorts of girls in to the bathroom, had a little 'chat' with them and they left. End of story.. Now, management is more concerned with the almighty dollar and keeping guys like you happy. In all actuality you ARE looking for sex for pay.. if you were not you would not be doing what you do.

    I personally have no problem with that, the problem that I have that has been stated in previous posts is drawing the line between the two. Either get a stripper, or a hooker.. make up your damn mind and stop making our workplace DIRTY!

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    Same Sh$T different state.
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    The same thing is happening in Atl. The clubs that were known for great looking women and no touching are now home to the more "handsy" (I mean the more "dirty" girls) girls. While for a minute there as long as you were cute you could just dismiss it and say some cute remark and still get the dance or vip room now is not the case. It sucks... I have been dancing for 6 years and the trend over the past year has made me want to quit dancing.

    I totally feel ya girls.

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    Same here.Now we have a couple of girls french kissing a few different guys every time they work acting like that's what they are supposed to do.

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