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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristalla
    yes i knew it meant without papers - i didnt know the whole new wopo theory Paige decribed though -- but still i didnt feel insulted ,,, at that time i was actually without papers except my tourist visa but still i didnt care,,, if i get called slut or bitch then i care and those are insults ... but sometimes i hear black girls calling each other 'nigga' and they seem not to take it as an insult...they laugh and look playful... so i get confused ,,,
    Those Black girls are idiots. These are the same Black girls that will get pissed off when someone not Black-American will use that word. I get pissed off when anyone uses it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Amethyst
    Great advice (provided she's a dark-skinned Black dancer as not all Black people are the same color). Your choice of words leave much to be desired though. Maybe just: "I bet you'd look awesome in black or light blue - you'd really stand out!" instead of immediately commenting on her skin color. Are you racist? Nah. I've heard much worse. I also wouldn't worry about the other dancers either. Some girls just love drama, and they'll be mad at someone else in about a week.
    ya i think dark skinned girls look great in florescent pinks and even bright whites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxey
    Hey did you even read my last post? Maybe you need to get a clue that not everyone comes from the same place you do and not everyone has had the same life experiences. Have you ever even heard of Vancouver? Do you even know where it is? I'll give you a hint it's not a suberb of Toronto...
    Child...you really need to get in your place. Yes I did read your post..that is why I responded to it. I dont care where in Canada you are from...you are narrow minded.

    You know what..it's not about people coming from the same place as me...do you know WHAT PLACE I AM FROM?! Didn't think so. So please don't speak on it..as if you know me..or anything about me ok.

    The problem that I had with your posting is that you said, " " So I dont care if you have come from the big city, or shi, Little House on the Prairie...you were DEAD WRONG!

    Oh and for the record..yes, I know where Vancouver is, and yes I can place it on a map...please DO NOT EVER try to insult my intelligence again.







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    Foxey, This is the problem that I had with your posting...

    Oh god was it the white girls with the black babies that were offended? A lot of those girls tend to definately have a chip on their shoulder (at least from my experience) I think they are bitter because they are not black so they are trying to over compensate. "OH MY GAWD YOU BE DISRESPECTING MY SISTA LIKE THAT, IMA TELL MA BABY DADDY!" Shut the fuck up already. I'm not racist against black people, in fact I love the black girls that I work with. They are all really cool. I don't like white girls who try to pretend they are black. Get over it already!







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    They're idiots. They just want something to be mad about. Tell them to get the *ahem* over themselves. You said NOTHING offensive, they're just some silly broads so don't sweat it!
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    Foxey just got put on Ignore by me. If I keep reading her posts I'm going to lose IQ Points (I can afford to lose a lot, but not over her...)
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    I honestly didn't read this whole thread because it seemed a bit long etc. I will say, what you said seems fine to me, of course depending on your tone of voice blah blah. People are always looking to be offended anymore, it seems. I will, however, agree that darker skinned girls tend to look/do better in bright colors. Also, to address what someone said earlier about lighting...I have about 30 different lighting programs going. And, yes, I do make different ones for different skin colors. It's a business thing. I personally want every girl to look as amazing as she can while onstage. Some of the amber and blue/green colors that look good on white girls look AWFUL on darker skinned girls, be they black/latino/asian/whatever. If the Dj has the capability and the knowledge, he would switch the lights appropriately for who is onstage.

    All in all though,No. It wasn't racist. You obviously did not mean it in any sort of derogatory way. At least as you write it. If it was taken wrong, apologize. If she doesnt accept it...don't worry about it, and move on. There are more important things to care about in this life.
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    Cinnamon Kisses, the reason I made my last post is because you act like I live in a cave. Do you expect everyone in the world to recognize "ghetto" slang? My point was that I didn't understand that speaking ghetto slang wasn't "pretending to be black" because where I come from there is no "ghetto slang" You make it sound like I should have just magically known the differance. What is up with that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxey
    Cinnamon Kisses, the reason I made my last post is because you act like I live in a cave. Do you expect everyone in the world to recognize "ghetto" slang? My point was that I didn't understand that speaking ghetto slang wasn't "pretending to be black" because where I come from there is no "ghetto slang" You make it sound like I should have just magically known the differance. What is up with that?
    Not trying to speak for CK, but I would hope that unless one lived in a bubble (or a cave), he or she would know that speaking in the manner you described is not "acting Black". Ever see "The Cosby Show"? Did the Cliff or Claire Huxtable say "Oh my GAWD...I'MA DO DIS, I'MA Do DAT"? I don't think so. How about Oprah? Gabrielle Union? Nia Long? Cuba Gooding Jr.? Tiger Woods Sr (I'd say TW jr, but someone would inevitably come out and say "oh he's mixed, so he doesn't count")? Condi Rice? Colin Powell? Ever hear any of them speak like that, unless s/he was acting in a role?

    Since MTV is your window to "Black culture", how about Lauryn Hill, Brian McKnight, Musiq? Even P.Diddy (whatever he's calling himself nowadays) rarely talks like that unless he's in "Diddy"-mode. I wouldn't even call it "ghetto". It's a culture of hip-hop (that encompasses people of ANY ethnicity or social class who lives in that type of culture). You might even notice that not even all hip-hop is the same (east coast vs west coast vs "dirty south").

    There's no such thing as "acting Black" or "acting White" or "acting Canadian". Turn off MTV and stop letting modern day minstrels like 50-Cent, Nelly, & Eminem (whoa - he's White, right? hmm..guess that blows your "only Black people speak like that" theory) be the representatives for an entire ethnic group. Watch CNN or something.


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    Fair enough but I've never watched that much TV. My point is that in real life, not on TV, where I come from (Vancouver) there is no ghetto slang. I don't know why that is, but it's true. Besides I never said that all black people speak ghetto slang. That is an obviously stupid stereotype and I have known enough black people to know that isn't true. I'm not sayng that all black people speak ghetto slang, what I am saying is that I've never heard anyone other than black people speak it until I started dancing in the US and heard a few white girls speaking it. In Vancouver there really aren't many black people. The ones who are there are usually of Jamaican decent. Hmmm at the club I worked at the manager was black, the DJ, one of the bouncers, and about three or four dancers. None of them spoke ghetto slang. There was this one white girl who would only talk to them and did so in horrible ghetto slang. They all rolled there eyes at her. That is what gave me the idea she was pretending to be black, the fact that she wouldn't talk to white people even though she was white and the black people didn't like her. What do you think of that scenario?
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    I love how every thread like this degenerates into bickering sooner or later...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinahSky
    Foxey just got put on Ignore by me. If I keep reading her posts I'm going to lose IQ Points (I can afford to lose a lot, but not over her...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amethyst
    Not trying to speak for CK, but I would hope that unless one lived in a bubble (or a cave), he or she would know that speaking in the manner you described is not "acting Black".
    Amethyst when have I ever been upset that you "spoke for me" you know you and I think along the same mind frame hahhaa. Anyway, I read this post..all I could say is, "Tell it girl "

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    just let the thread die.

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    Cinnamon Kisses, why haven't you given me your opinion of this?

    "There was this one white girl who would only talk to them and did so in horrible ghetto slang. They all rolled there eyes at her. That is what gave me the idea she was pretending to be black, the fact that she wouldn't talk to white people even though she was white and the black people didn't like her. What do you think of that scenario?"

    I'm trying to have an intellectual discussion here. I'm trying to learn from your view points. If you put me on ignore all the power to ya but I'm just wondering why you haven't answered my last post as I am curious to your opinion. Or anyone elses for that matter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amethyst
    It's a culture of hip-hop (that encompasses people of ANY ethnicity or social class who lives in that type of culture). You might even notice that not even all hip-hop is the same (east coast vs west coast vs "dirty south").
    Being that im the godfather of Hip-Hop,and im an old,pudgy,white guy,who doesnt spell well,but talks proper american english,I dont think you can blame a speach pattern of a race on a musical movement in history.

    true dat???

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    Girl you can't sweat the small stuff. As black people we tend to be really on edge when it comes to a white person commenting about our skin color-be it good or bad- because our skin color determines how we're viewed by others. I think that the other dancer will just appreciate the advice more than anything... for future reference, try to leave any mention of complexion out. Try to say something along the lines of, "you know, you would attract so much more attention if you wore bright colors " and if she doesn't get it it's your choice whether or not to mention why. But know that we're prone to get defensive because we have to be. There are a lot of really racist bastards out there! But thank goodnes you're not one of them!
    I don't see why people make such a big deal out of race anyway. I think we''ll all end up being the same color at some point!

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    I don't have time (right now) to read this whole thread, so forgive me if I repeat what's been said 20 times. You were not wrong to say that! Its the freakin truth, it has nothing to do with race, it has to do with skin tone. It just so happens that many Black people have dark skin. I tell people, in a nice way, all the time what looks good on them. I usually do it by offering them something in that color I don't use anymore etc. Furthermore, I'm sooo sick of girls being pissed off about comments b/c they have a "half Black" kid. There are times when that's valid , but it has NOTHING to do with what u said.

    For example, I was in a beauty supply store in Camden, NJ, and this Black lady's daughter asked her mom to buy her a pack of colorful barrettes. The mom told her no, and went on to say that she would look like a Puerto-Rican with all those damn colors. I didn't say anything. Then, the mom saw me and my daughter, and says "oh she's so pretty, where'd she get such beautiful hair?" I replied. "from her half Puerto-Rican scalp, bitch! Now that was a racist situation. The only reason the girls with the bi-racial kids(if they are even telling the truth) are saying anything is to have "something" to Phuckin say.

    Let it roll of of your back, the person the comment was made to wasn't bothered, so screw the rest. Hell, u apologized, and u meant it. That's all u can do. I would never be offended by a sincere compliment, criticism or comment, no matter who made it. When someone says something that could be worded better, I tell them just that. I do however, take the compliment at face value. If I didn't, I'd never know how serious some men are when they tell me I'm sure perrrty for a colored girl. I get their money, and laughingly explain to them that Crayola has nothing to do with "all-of-this"
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    I mentioned this thread to my partner, a Black woman who frequently much better insight than I do. Her immediate response: "The remark was benign, but she probably should have phrased it differently." "Why?" I asked. "Because there's cultural stereotype about you can't see Black folks in the dark."

    Hmmm...that hadn't occurred to me. Maybe that's why folks were so sensitive about it.

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    If I can get over a "tortilla smell" ignorant comment by a co-worker, everyone in the OP's post can get over her boo-boo.

    Be glad you live in a nation where we just give eachother dirty looks....some people will get downright inappropriate over similar slights in other countries.

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    Tee hee off subject i had fogotten my makeup one day and was aking my mate to lend me her powder....Dafty here didnt realize why she cracked up laughing...until she pointed out that SHE is black and I am white as casper the friendly ghost!
    It had honestly not crossed my mind when i asked her for makeup.....silly me!

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    Oh sweetie, that's awful that they are being so nasty when you are clearly so upset about it. It was clearly a well-intentioned comment and your apology must have made that clear. It seems they are deliberately trying to get mileage out of it - that's why even your apology hasn't shut some of them up. It looks a lot like jealousy - they are looking to find a reason to ostracise you. Try turning the tables. Say 'It's a shame that despite my apology, you are so determined and hellbent on insisting my comment was meant to be racist. That says more about you than me'. Silly bunch of hags!

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    I understand what you said, but some people have experienced different things. Racism does exist and a lot of times it isn't overdone or underdone, it is done too often.

    I agree with another lady's comment about race differences being natural, I think the difference is racism being bliss for some people. Saying "Oh this is just my background". That is where it is offensive because you are CHOOSING to be that way.

    But no, I don't think what she said was mean spirited or offensive, the person who took it that way may have been through some things and never resolved them, or is just trying to make something bigger because she is jealous of your earnings.

    Also, as another poster said. Being black has nothing to do with ignorance, or with the "ghetto"(an originally Italian word for neighborhood, i.e. The Hood). So I take offense when an ignorant white, green or blue person starts being accused of "acting black". I am black (African American, whatever) and I can bet that my I.Q. is a higher number than the average person's and I don't believe I am an anomaly.

    Reverse racism sucks as well.

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