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    Okay, so I decided to rent Troy again because I was all drugged up the first time I saw it.. so its playing now (I'm one of THOSE people who can't just sit and watch a movie, I have to be doing something else too.. LOL drives my hubby nuts)... ennnnnieeeewaaaaaayze....

    Do you really think that all those women back then looked like they did in this movie? Do you think that all thier teeth were straight and white and hair all in place? Do you think that the guys looked that way too?


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    I don't know, I was drugged up when I saw it, too.
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    In my home town, down there in South Texas, they ask the question, "What has 8 arms, 8 legs, and 16 teeth?"

    The answer is "The morning shift at Waffle House"

    So no, I don't think they all looked that perfect then because, in some locales, they don't look that perfect now.
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    hmmm well since all those stories(the original printed copies) are really exagerrations anyways, no.

    and if the women did look like that someone would figure out a time machine really quick.

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    OOOOH YUMMMMY... waffle house.. I haven't been to one of those in years.....


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    I kind of doubht they looked anything that would be acceptable standards of living for us then - times were a bit different - the people of wealth and royalty perhaps they had a decent standard of hygene - makes you wonder I imagine if they saw a pretty boy like brad pit come out to challenge them they would die of laughter ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gynger
    Do you really think that all those women back then looked like they did in this movie? Do you think that all thier teeth were straight and white and hair all in place? Do you think that the guys looked that way too?
    3200 years ago it was a miracle if you lived past 30, so the people who fought in the historical Trojan wars were probably almost all very young. So they might have had all their teeth if they paid attention to hygene (we often sell ancient people short in that regard, just like today some people cleaned their teeth and some folk didn't. They didn't have toothbrushes, but they had methods of cleaning teeth, often revolting ones). Most of the women you see in the movie were from their respective nobilities, so their hair probably WAS all in place like that. When you can afford 100 slaves at least a few of them will know how to fix hair, and women are women no matter what age they are in.

    As for the men... Let's just say i doubt it. The nobles like Hector might have had all their teeth, but i very much doubt that any commoners would. Common folk had other things on their minds back then. And wars throughout all of ancient history were almost entirely fought by baseborn men.

    Not that there ever really was a Helen or a Paris, or anyone else except for Agamemnon (there is some evidence for his existance) though. The Trojan wars were fought over trade, though i suppose it's possible that a runaway Sparti princess could have been a convenient excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gynger
    Okay, so I decided to rent Troy again because I was all drugged up the first time I saw it.. so its playing now (I'm one of THOSE people who can't just sit and watch a movie, I have to be doing something else too.. LOL drives my hubby nuts)... ennnnnieeeewaaaaaayze....

    Do you really think that all those women back then looked like they did in this movie? Do you think that all thier teeth were straight and white and hair all in place? Do you think that the guys looked that way too?
    It seems the skulls of roman soldiers dug up in England all had their teeth.

    Like other's mentioned, they died young.

    I remember watching something about Egypt, and apparently they tended to have all their teeth too - but they were ground down often from eating food embedded with particles of sand. I suppose that would be hard to escape living in the desert.

    So while they had teeth, their teeth may not have been straight.

    I was watching another show about doctors in Egypt and Rome, and they discovered tools and writings showing they did a lot of the same techniques as we do today - with ingenious use of local medicines (for example, did you know that honey kills bacteria?)

    As someone else mentioned, they did know how to whiten their teeth - usually by mixtures containing urine in one way or another. They never did figure out how to extract the active ingredient in urine that actually did the whitening though. I guess they all were trying to turn lead into gold (oops - wrong century LOL!)

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    A movie reviewer for the L.A. Weekly referred to "Troy" as "the most expensive gay porno ever made."

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    A good collection of literature on the lives of peoples of that era- about the material & remains excavated at the site of Mount Vesuvius-Pompeii in Italy. National Geographic did a story on how anthropologists learned so much because the people died instantaneously from the heat and ash from the volcano, and the ash packed their remains away for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmaxine
    A good collection of literature on the lives of peoples of that era- about the material & remains excavated at the site of Mount Vesuvius-Pompeii in Italy. National Geographic did a story on how anthropologists learned so much because the people died instantaneously from the heat and ash from the volcano, and the ash packed their remains away for years.
    Not really. There's about 1200 years between the Trojan wars (the historical ones, anyway) and Pompeii. The TW were before greece as we think of it even existed (Classical Greece was around 5th century BCE to 1st or second century CE).

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    I think they looked as much like that as I believe Jesus was a fair skinned blonde with blue eyes.
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    they may or may not have had all of their teeth, but it is very unlikely that their teeth were perfectly straight. most people are not born with straight teeth. in america, almost everyone these days with crooked teeth gets braces, but just look to other countries where braces aren't the norm- teeth are crooked. interestingly enough, the roman historian who worked on this film asked for his name to be removed from the credits, as they ignored his suggestions almost entirely, and he did not want people to think he was full of it!
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    The sad part of this is.. is that I have lost three hours of my life I'm never getting back.. six if you count the first time I saw this...

    For now on, I'm sticking to the HIstory channel for my mythological, egyptology, and various other cultures of interest...

    Madness I tell you... Madness.


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    I didn't hate Troy, i just wish they'd stuck with the Illiad. They claimed that they were making a realistic version of the story when all they did was film the Illiad and cut out everything that makes that story resonate through the ages, literally everything mythical about it.

    Sorta like the latest retelling of the King Arthur story. "The Untold True Story That Inspired The Legend" as the poster so boldly puts it. Wow. Who knew the real story of King Arthur could be so god damned boring?

    Imagine if you will, the story of Clark, a small town Kansas boy who was an all state track champion. Now Clark was a nice guy, one of the best, as long as you never made him mad. Oh, he wouldn't do much about it, but he'd let loose his gaze, a mean, intimidating look that felt like lasers were piercing right through you. One day, on a dare, he raced across train tracks just as a train was passing by. He was so close to the train that it almost clipped him, yet he escaped death and his friends began to boast of his speed. Faster than a speeding locomotive, they said. But Clark had another gift, that of being in the right place at the right time. One night, while trying to buy booze with a fake ID, he ended up in a store that was being held up by a local thug. Clark tried to intervene, but the thug shot him. The bullet, however, ricocheted off of the whiskey flask he always kept in his breast pocket. Stunned by Clark's seeming imperviousness to bullets, Clark was able to get the drop on the thug and knocked him cold with a single blow. And thus began the legend of the super man from Smallville, Kansas.

    Now honestly, which story would you rather spend two hours of your life watching? The story of Clark, the lucky son of a bitch always in the right place at the right time? Or Superman?

    If the current batch of movies is any indication, Hollywood thinks you'd rather watch the former. Forget the fact that 16 of the 20 highest grossing films of all time are fanciful high adventure stories that involve wizards, aliens, dinosaurs, ghosts, mysticism and epic heroes chosen by fate and prophesy (or in the case of the Star Wars movies, all of the above.) Forget that the stories that they're retelling have existed for centuries in their current form and have never fallen out of favor in the minds of young and old alike. Forget that even though many of these figures are rooted in historical fact, the stories were recorded as we've been told them, not - as King Arthur (and Troy, for that matter) states in it's opening title card - "as archeological evidence suggests".

    Clearly, Hollywood knows what you want.

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