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    While the dancers of this site do enjoy reading a lot of what the customer's have to say, they do feel better when they have this section to be able to rant with other dancers or share stories with other dancers.

    If you are a male (or female) customer...please refrain from posting in the Stripping General section. You are free to post in Customer Conversation, The Lounge, Body Business, etc. But, please respect that a lot of the dancers would feel better hearing from other dancers in this section.

    Posts from male (or female) customers will be deleted if they become too much.

    Thanks!

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    Yeah, that whole, "I'm not a dancer but my OTC dancer friends......" line does get annoying after the 1000th time. If you're not a dancer you really don't know.

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    Default Re: For The Customers...please Read!!

    It's one thing to say "I don't like your post and I disagree" - it another to say "I don't like your post and cuz your a man or a customer - your getting 86'ed."
    It's not about "I disagree because you are a man and a customer" It's about if you are not a dancer you have no first-hand knowledge of some of the "at work" situations that are posted here.

    Maybe you should re-read the post...and stop taking it so personally.

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    Default Re: For The Customers...please Read!!

    It's one thing to say "I don't like your post and I disagree" - it another to say "I don't like your post and cuz your a man or a customer - your getting 86'ed."
    Dude, while I agree with your sentiment, StripperWeb is really for strippers first and foremost. Like TOO says, we're just guests. And I'm the last person to get all sycophantic with regard to strippers. Well, almost last--I'm no Mr. Punk.

    Sometimes (often) women just like to vent without actually doing anything about it or looking for outside opinions. Accept that, and take your frustration downstairs to the Blue Side.

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    Default Re: For The Customers...please Read!!

    Come on guys, it's not like this is an unreasonable request. She's not saying stay out completely. Just understand and respect the context of the forum.

    It sounds like she took time to phrase her request in such a way as to not offend and to minimize the ultimatum.

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    Default Re: For The Customers...please Read!!

    Totally on-target. IF I want a customers opionion on something, I will post in customer convo. When I want to talk to strippers about st6ripping, this is the place. Makes sense to me!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    You realize it is these attitudes that get strippers in trouble with the rest of society.
    The fact that we take off our clothes and simulate sexual acts with horny married men is what gets us in trouble with the rest of society. They could give a fuck about how we run our website.

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    If a cupcake was tossed at me... well, I'd only be upset if it missed my mouth

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    Quote Originally Posted by JumbliesMan

    But it's your site, do whatever the hell you want. Not like I've run a forum with thousands of active users, only to see it whither and die after giving the people what they want, and then find out that they really didn't want what they said they did...
    Oh, don't worry, this is cyclical. In a couple of weeks everything will be back to normal. This type of post is periodically necessary to remind some over-zealous posters that they don't need to respond to EACH and EVERY stripping post with anecdotal 3rd party stories or advice regarding areas where they really have no clue. It doesn't apply to each and every male on this site.

    "Have you ever been to American wedding? Where is the vodka, where's marinated herring?" - GB
    "And do the cats give a shit? No, they do not. Why? Because they're cats."-from The Onion

    Quote Originally Posted by Mia M
    If a cupcake was tossed at me... well, I'd only be upset if it missed my mouth

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    Quote Originally Posted by JumbliesMan
    Correct me if I'm wrong
    Okay. You're wrong. Now seriously...

    Your post implies customers are being asked to stop posting in this area, but that's not the request. It's logical to conclude that someone who's done the job has a larger quantity and quality of questions, experiences and perceptions to share about doing the job than someone who has not. Therefore, it's not unreasonable to ask for customers' cooperation in acknowledging that and posting somewhat proportionately. It's similar to a doctor's group asking patients to understand their role is somewhat lesser in a forum that's primarily medical in nature because they lack medical perspective, and to urge them to use other forum areas, such as the Lounge or "Patient" Conversation to relay experiences that are primarily patient oriented. I doubt that the moderators are looking for clinical precision in this matter, just a little understanding and effort in the right direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JumbliesMan
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a custy involved in every transcation in which a dancer makes money? Doesn't that then mean that the people who you're asking to refrain from posting are 50% of the equation?
    Maybe you just skipped past the most important paragraph when you were signing up. Maybe you just forgot since you've been coming here for a while...but, this statement means only one thing:

    Welcome to the Stripper Web community. We are the worlds largest, most comprehensive, and active exotic dancer community online or offline! In short, StripperWeb is the place for exotic dancers and feature dancers to find support and advice.


    Quote Originally Posted by JumbliesMan
    When Jumblies was just getting started stripping and she found this site, it seemed like it was an interesting forum where dancers and customers could interact anonymously outside the club. To me, this seemed like an great place where ideas could be exchanged which would benefit both the dancer and customer alike.
    While customers are welcomed here...there is no reason for them to be drowning out the dancers. If someone asks "How do you deal with a mean DJ without losing money?" Unless you've done it...there is really no need to answer. Please feel free to visit and comment as much as you want in Customer Conversation. There is where the dancers meet the customers in an area in "which ideas can be exchanged which would benefit both the dancer and customer alike."

    Quote Originally Posted by JumbliesMan
    However, if all you want is a place where you can brag about how much you made, bitch about customers, and complain about your club, couldn't you just hang around in the locker room after work?
    Maybe your wife has great comeraderie at her club...however, MOST clubs do NOT have dancers whom become "buddy-buddy". In fact, I never discussed my earnings (good or bad) and I never bitched to anyone in my club. The less other dancers knew about me, the less I would be involved in any kind of drama. I kept to myself (while being polite to everyone) and made my money. That's why a lot of us don't "hang out in the locker room" like you suggested. That comment alone shows that you know nothing about being a dancer.

    You also need to re-read what I wrote in my post. Just like I told Deogol. Stop taking everything so personally. As for giving the members what they like. That is what is being done. The DANCERS have repeatedly asked for the CUSTOMERS to stop posting so much in a rant thread, money thread, whatever. Since this is STRIPPERWeb...we are doing what the DANCERS/STRIPPERS want. Maybe that's a problem in your eyes. That's fine. It doesn't change the fact that you don't know the business like a dancer does, and therefore, there is no reason for you to comment much on the business side of dancing. If you feel that you need to comment on hustling techniques, etc. Please go visit the Customer Conversation Forum. They have lots of topics of dancers asking the customer POV.

    Other than that, all I asked was for NON-DANCERS to refrain from posting too much in SG.

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    Venus,
    I have one comment:

    YOU ROCK.
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    The girls look up at you and say, "Can you give us a few minutes to talk, please?"

    So you leave and let them talk. It's not that difficult.

    C'mon. Let's go over to CustomerConversation and grab a beer.

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    The reason I bitch on this site sometimes is because I want someone who completely understands what I'm going through to say, "I understand what you're going through." When I just bitch, I'm not looking for solutions or outside opinions, or a way to "bridge the gap between customer and dancer." I just want someone to empathise with.

    Plus, the customers on this site are generally more of the gentlemen you meet at a club, and are more knowledgable and respectful to dancers. You guys (and gals!) are generally not the root of any issues I bring to this board. The only way some of you could help with the problems we have is if you went to every customer in every club, everywhere and say, "By the way, I saw on SW that such and such..." Most customers who frequent this site are not the ones who try to take cell phone pictures of me, or lick where they're not supposed to, or whatever. I feel that you can't help me on these situations.

    Jesus, this was a long post. VenusGoddess didn't kick you off completely, just asked that you give us some kicking and punching room.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Zeno
    The girls look up at you and say, "Can you give us a few minutes to talk, please?"

    So you leave and let them talk. It's not that difficult.

    C'mon. Let's go over to CustomerConversation and grab a beer.
    Funny you say that. More often than not, when my (girl)friends and I are having a discussion (and this has happened not only at bars, but bus stops, grocery stores...just about anywhere) and a guy attempts to break in, uninvited, we are suddenly "bitches" for ASKING for a common courtesy.

    So, guys, do give us a moment to talk, and we'll let you know when we would like your input. We came here to share with each other, you came here to witness/be a part of that. You sought us, so why are we all of a sudden the bad guys?

    Note: Like in my "civilian" life, I do love the input and interaction when it is appropriate!

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    I really don't mind the rant threads, but I think the larger problem here is getting some of the newer members to recognize which threads are dancer free fire zones, and which are okay to post on.
    Quote Originally Posted by JumbliesMan
    I can understand the need for all of the ladies of SW to comisserate with their fellow dancers. But it seems to be that as the main forum of SW, aptly titled "Stripping (was Stripping General)" that anyone who is part of the stripping equation should be welcome.
    Perhaps you didn't read this on the main forum page:

    Have a topic about stripping but it doesn't fit in the other sections below? Then it belongs here!

    This idea that SG is the "main forum" is a misconception. Its where you're supposed to go if your topic doesn't fit anywhere else. I do think there's a tendency with some people when in doubt, post it in SG. I see a lot of threads in SG that probably should be moved to one of the other boards, but people would start whining about overmoderation again.

    However, if all you want is a place where you can brag about how much you made, bitch about customers, and complain about your club, couldn't you just hang around in the locker room after work?
    They probably do that too. Don't you bitch about the goings on at your workplace at some spot where the subject of your ire isn't going to make you pay a consequence for your grievance? I do. Its rather theraputic. Unfortunately being in the hospitality business, most dancers don't have that luxury, so they come here.

    As for what seems to us men like excessive bitching, well hang around any woman long enough and you'll see its not a dancer thing, but a female thing. Women like to bitch about their problems, and really aren't looking for us guys to solve them. They just want some catharsis, particularly from someone who can relate. My sister does it, my mother does it, my grandmother does it. Every female at my job does it. I've just come to accept this as par for the course. So why should SW be any different?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbeynormal
    or lick where they're not supposed to, or whatever.

    When, pray tell, are they supposed to? (LOL sorry, I couldn't help it! )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Zeno
    The girls look up at you and say, "Can you give us a few minutes to talk, please?"

    So you leave and let them talk. It's not that difficult.

    C'mon. Let's go over to CustomerConversation and grab a beer.

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    Very true, Glamazon! I suppose if they wanted to lick my boot...
    "This above all: to thine own self be true."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    Thats the way to remove the divide, to knock down stereotypes, to make people feel first class, to put a buddy in your corner when the local law makers come around... or not. What a hateful post.

    You realize it is these attitudes that get strippers in trouble with the rest of society.

    It's one thing to say "I don't like your post and I disagree" - it another to say "I don't like your post and cuz your a man or a customer - your getting 86'ed."

    That is like poeple saying "She's a stripper - what the fuck does she know?"

    I can't wait to see how long this post stays up.


    If they didn't crack down like this from time to time SW would be all guys. I have zero interest in hanging with guys online or offline. Not everything has to be turned into "help! I'm being repressed!"

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    How about making this a ladies-only section?



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    Because it's not just ladies who are dancers.

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    As a stripper, if I go to a site called LAWYERWEB. COM, and read:

    "Welcome to the LawyerWeb community. We are the worlds largest, most comprehensive, and active attorney community online or offline! In short, LawyerWeb is the place for lawyers and attorneys to find support and advice."

    - AND jump into a forum labeled "Lawyering General", it's a pretty safe bet that the members are going to less inclined to hear about my personal opinions on what what they're "bitching" about, regardless of how many times I've used their services.


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    Thank you Jay Zeno, doc-catfish, madcap and riverrat.
    The rest of you guys, pay attention to what they said in this thread.

    We have different sections here for a reason. Not just to keep things organized and easier to navigate in a huge forum, but to allow the different members space to participate in appropriate ways. Keep in mind this site is MAINLY for STRIPPERS. It's STRIPPERweb - a forum for STRIPPERS. This is and always has been mainly intended as a resource for strippers. We welcome customers and wannabes, and we have places for you to participate. Customers have plenty of sites that are geared mainly for customers (to include your own section here and SCJ). This one is ours.

    Also please remember that Stripping General is for general or miscellaneous topics about stripping. In other words, where strippers are meant to communicate with each other about work. Customer conversation is where we're meant to get input from customers.

    It doesn't hurt to have the occasional customer input in stripping general, but when you guys start commenting too much in there it changes the direction and tone of the threads and often stops strippers from speaking freely. As others have mentioned, sometimes we just want to blow off steam about work in a place where we don't have to worry about upsetting the fragile customer ego. We can't do it at work. And JumbliesMan, if you were a stripper, you'd know exactly the level of ridiculousness in your suggestion that we do it in the dressing room after closing. That is a prime example of why we want non-strippers to limit their comments in stripping general - yall just don't know what it's like!

    There's no need to interpret the fact that we want a little space to communicate with each other (as strippers) as anything but that. Appreciate the fact we welcome non-strippers here in appropriate sections, rather than whine because we don't want you throwing your trucks in our sandbox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette
    It doesn't hurt to have the occasional customer input in stripping general, but when you guys start commenting too much in there it changes the direction and tone of the threads and often stops strippers from speaking freely.
    I'm not a dancer, but my OTC dancer friends...

    Sorry, couldn't resist

    Yeah guys, before you get all bent out of shape, read the qualifier. Now it's entirely possible for there to be a topic in here that customers may have some valuable insights on (like, oh I don't know, questions relating to the best way to deal with customer X, for example. Now if you are or have been customer X, then you might have something constructive to say.).

    On the other hand, if the topic is something to do with...club management, for example, chances are you don't have anything particularly valuable to say on the topic.

    At the end of the day, it's just another way of saying "Please use Mr. Brain and exercise some common sense before posting."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgette
    Yeah, that whole, "I'm not a dancer but my OTC dancer friends......" line does get annoying after the 1000th time. If you're not a dancer you really don't know.
    LoL, I must agree!
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