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    Has this ever happend to any of you ? I was bidding on a RV that was for sale the other day (yesterday ) and I put in a max bid of 5k so it gets down to the last 14 min of the auction and here comes all the bidders geeze . So they are getting real close to my max bid so I decide I better up it quick so I go to 5.5k - this isn't where I wanted to be but hey I didnt was to loose something because of a measly 5oo bucks . Well needless to say these guys go nuts and the auction ends with 6,500 as the winning bid ! I check out the credentials on the winner he has crap loads of buys and all good feedback hmmm . Well today I get an email from someone at E-Bay telling me that the people who outbid me couldnt come up with the mulla so they are offering the RV at my last max bid of 5.5k wtf . At first I thought well this is kind of cool then I started to think and look - all these idiots came after my 5k limit was exceeded this really sucks . So I wrote the seller and e-bay and gave them a offer of 5k for the RV - because I felt my max bid was driven up by people that had no intention of paying anyways so why should I be penalized 500 bucks for upping my max . Does this seem strange to anyone besides myself - I understand its a bid but how do people ( like the guy who won ) keep a 100% rating after a stunt like this ?

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    The only thing a seller has to go by is what eBay says your last recorded bid (in this case, the $5,500 bid you submitted)--so to him, that was effectively your last bid and the highest price you were willing to pay. It does seem a little shady that a lot of bidders would try to bid the price up and then withdraw, though, so I would stand by your lower offer, unless you think it's still a deal at the price he's offering it for. I'd take some precautions though, like making sure you get it checked out and get some kind of short-term warranty before you hand over the money.

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    To me you have good logic. If they don't take your offer don't buy it.

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    OH MY GOD! Just today my bf lost a bid on a cool sharkskin suit. He's been searching everywhere and we found one on E-bay and thought what the hell. So yesterday he bid a couple times and no one came near his bid for almost an entire day. So he went online about 30 minutes prior to bidding ending today...bids starting coming in but nothing to high. So he bids high at $100 in the last few minutes.....in the LAST 10 SECONDS he loses to someone who bid $102.50! The closest bid to his $100 was $62! We are so fed up with E-bay, we will only buy something now if it can be purchased right away without the bidding. It seems like a scam somehow when bidding happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousJ
    ..but how do people ( like the guy who won ) keep a 100% rating after a stunt like this ?
    When his friend bids it up with no intention of buying it and they leave each other good feedback, all the while knowing the seller will ask the second person if he will buy it at his max bid.

    Thats why you should only bid at the last 10 seconds so others cannot run it up.
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    Ya its hard to do that sometimes because of my connection or being home for the auction . The person from e-bay who sent me the notice were not anyone who was involed with the auction we had ??



    Quote Originally Posted by WiseGuy_TX
    When his friend bids it up with no intention of buying it and they leave each other good feedback, all the while knowing the seller will ask the second person if he will buy it at his max bid.

    Thats why you should only bid at the last 10 seconds so others cannot run it up.

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    Hardcore bidders use automatic software that ups their bids in the last few seconds of the auction... You can't beat that, but you can compete on even ground by using the same program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousJ
    Ya its hard to do that sometimes because of my connection or being home for the auction . The person from e-bay who sent me the notice were not anyone who was involed with the auction we had ??
    Who sent you the notice then? It should be from the seller (ebay can head it for them), not from anyone else...
    I've received a lot of bogus emails before, so don't sign on directly from the email, you never know....
    I've been offered to buy because others have not come up with the money... I think you asking them to accept a lower offer is fine. If they say yes, then that works if not, then it's no loss to you.
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    I usually just bid the total amount that I would want to pay, including that extra few bucks that I don't want to lose by, then if I win I win, if not I ignore what the final winner bid. That way I don't feel ike I lost because of 50 cents.
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    Be very careful. I sold a boat this summer on eBay for a rather good sum. I had spoken with two of the bidders by phone to respond to some questions they had.



    They both called me after the auction because they ad gotten emails supposedly from me indicating that the top bidder had not come through, offering it to them for a lower amount.. That had not happened.



    The emails were bogus, I have no idea of how the other person got their emails.



    I would not do it unless I could pick up the camper and make 100% of the payment at that time

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    Quote Originally Posted by WiseGuy_TX
    When his friend bids it up with no intention of buying it and they leave each other good feedback, all the while knowing the seller will ask the second person if he will buy it at his max bid.
    i actually know of a few guys who do that. they sell stuff that "fell off the back of a truck" and use each others accounts to bump up the bids. ebay can be a fantastic place to score a bargain if it's a legitimate seller, but unfortunately there's just so many shady people out there that you've really gotta be careful. it sounds to me like the people who outbid you on the RV either were his friends, or him on another account. you should keep an eye on the feedback of the person who won the boat, and have a look if the seller leaves any negative feedback. that might give you some idea of whether it was legit or not.

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    So, what'd they say? I never bid until the last bit of an auction... Well, when I HAD an account... I wasted too much $$$
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    I am waiting for an answer its all kind of strange to me , I will fill you all in when I get more info .

    Quote Originally Posted by Bella21
    So, what'd they say? I never bid until the last bit of an auction... Well, when I HAD an account... I wasted too much $$$

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    I agree I will only exchange cash on site with the seller , and smith and wesson will be close by !

    Quote Originally Posted by 8TJ
    Be very careful. I sold a boat this summer on eBay for a rather good sum. I had spoken with two of the bidders by phone to respond to some questions they had.



    They both called me after the auction because they ad gotten emails supposedly from me indicating that the top bidder had not come through, offering it to them for a lower amount.. That had not happened.



    The emails were bogus, I have no idea of how the other person got their emails.



    I would not do it unless I could pick up the camper and make 100% of the payment at that time

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    You should do a search and see what else the winning bidder has bid on in the last 30 days. It would be veeeeeery interesting if he has bid on any of the seller's other auctions. People get kicked off of ebay for shill bidding.

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    I'm a hobby seller on ebay, and sometimes people play feedback games, too. For instance a non paying bidder will get a negative rating from me, but she/he will leave me negative feedback in return and then offer to have the feedback withdrawn by mutual agreement.

    I don't go there, and I have a less then perfect score because of it. I am suspicious of any seller who has more then a 20 feedback rating who also has a 100% score. they are scamming in some way to make themselves look better.

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    I was offered the second chance deal for the RV - but they want a western union wire transfer - E-bay plainly states not to do a wire with someone you dont know . I am doing nothing this just doesnt feel rite , I hate to say it but it has really made me not like e-bay . I like a place you can at least pick up a phone and call someone and talk about it . Hell the way the internet is I just cant trust this transaction it goes against e-bay policy and my own gut instinct . I need to yell - its frustrating .

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    Report the emails to E-Bay. They're most likely a fraud, anyways.

    Sorry this happened to you. I used to E-Bay all of the time, but it's just not what it used to be. Sometimes, I'll jump online and find some good patterns for sewing, etc...but I rarely buy anything from the site anymore...too many schmucks.

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    You can actually try to get the seller's number and address, it's a little hard to find, but ebay will send it to you and send the seller a note saying that ebay sent it to you. They should give you a phone number that the seller gave to ebay.
    I've had to do this before when something ALMOST didn't arrive for Christmas.
    If you really want to contact that seller go ahead and try, trust me not everyone on ebay is evil. I sell dancer outfits and buy a ton more so I have dealt with great people and just one or two jerks.. But then, I don't try to jerk anyone around and I accept paypal and money orders.. If this person isn't accepting those I don't think I would trust them either.
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    It's a total scam. A legitimate seller will NOT ask you to western union that kind of money. They most likely will request cash upon pickup. Report it to Ebay.

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    Yes I reported it a few times we shall see what comes of it . My plan was to pay the seller with cash at the location of the RV that way I c ould give it a once over and have the option of backing out . The curent seller is saying he has changed his credit cards recently that is why he cant take them - I just dont trust the guy - once the money is wired I am fucked if I want it back , but his answer is that this is a secure e-bay transaction coverd by e-bay for fraud . Well my stomach is all twisted in a knot so thats a message to my brain saying no cancel it , thats what I am going to do ! I am going to buy an rv trader and go to the sellers homes and find me a damn RV geez . Fucking E-bay ! I have had good transactions in the past just never one like this and 5,500 bucks is a lot to just throw out there - if it was like 100 or less it wouldnt bother me so much even though getting scammed sucks even if its a dollar .

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    ohh god. When playing on ebay.
    - do not bid early
    - do not talk to anybody from nigeria & romania
    - try to stick with paypal
    - only ship to the address on paypal

    Here is a little trick. Only bid in the at the very end of the auction. If you max bid is $5k then enter your max bid at $5,001. Most people bid on even numbers. Feedback is everything

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    I am suspicious of any seller who has more then a 20 feedback rating who also has a 100% score. they are scamming in some way to make themselves look better.
    huh? I have over 60 feedback with 100%, and I definitely don't scam. I do refund people when they're not happy, and sometimes I get ripped off, but that's the price of good business.

    To the OP- the Western Union thing is sticky-sounding, but the second-chance offer is totally normal- it's just a button that the seller pushes that alerts ebay to send you a 'second chance' offer. It's pretty common, because lots of bidders back out. It's not necessarily shill bidding.

    Anyways, as far as anyone sees it, you were willing to pay $5500 for it, so that's what he's offering it to you for. You don't have to accept-

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    I'm sure they will agree to sell it to you, especially if they decided against buying.
    But this does sound a bit strange,It almost makes one wonder if the person who bid 6,500 , is the one who was doing the selling? But thats just my paranoia with people I imagine.HeH .

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