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    from - a blog run throughout the Katrina disaster from the only working internet provider in New Orleans

    "Saturday 9/10

    Ok, so Shane and I took to the streets today to see who exactly was out there and why. Obviously, I was most interested in the guys carrying assault rifles and patrolling around all the major buildings. That's who we started with.

    We went by Hibernia Bank where water was being pumped out what looked to be a basement into the street -- a lot of water - steady pumping. The security guys were armed to the nines (whatever that means ) and while very very friendly and apologetic, insisted they could not be interviewed. Understandable, since it is a major bank.

    We talked to some guys splicing the submerged fiber cable at the corner of Camp and Poydras on the south side of the intersection. The were trying to get expedia and telcove patched up. The guys said that most of the rest of the city and the surrounding suburbs would have to wait for weeks -- wait for the water to drain and then for Entergy to come in and do their thing first.

    Then we walked down Poydras toward the Dome. When we got near Le Pavillion, we noticed an enormous security presence on both sides of the street. I talked to two guys in US Marshall outfits, and they told us that everyone in the area was private security, themselves included. I asked what possible reason could a hotel have for needing 8 armed guards wielding AR-15s a sniper rifle, shotguns, etc. now that most of the civilians were gone.

    He said there was a shooting there just 3 days ago, and one man was beaten to death right on the neutral ground (median) of Poydras. He said there are still snipers in the area, and they've had unconfirmed reports of them on the roofs of several buildings. Sounded a little far fetched to me (why wouldn't the 82nd be clearing all suspected buildings...), but he insisted that they were still taking intermittent fire. Some of them (security personnel) actually suspect that there is a terrorist element in the city trying to cause trouble.

    Anyway, when I tell you that these guys are armed, I mean they're carrying stuff that I didn't even know the US had in its arsenal as far as small arms go. And full body armor too. The two Marshalls reported that the high end physical security guys were making $500+ per day while he and his buddies were making about $300 per day.

    Almost everyone on the street except for us were armed. I asked them about civilians carrying weapons and he said there's no point in carrying here (which is what we had already decided several days ago), but that if we went to anywhere outside the CBD, we'd be silly not to be packing. Direct opposition to the confiscation of weapons we've seen on the news.

    He also said that we could expect private security to be in place for 4 MONTHS! 4 months they will be rotating guys in. That's how long they expect it to take before the first businesses are operational at all.

    Also, we saw a bunch of Georgia State Troopers deployed down here escorting convoys of fuel. Several of the firetruck we've been seeing come from as far away as Chicago.

    Oh, and as always, the fireman have their hands full. Busy busy busy. Those guys deserve more money than they're gonna earn and a vacation we know they'll never get." (snip)

    Sunday 9/11

    "The cleanup crews on Poydras are making some real progress. The traffic you see on cam might look civilian, but I assure you it's police and relief/reconstruction types. There are a couple of cranes down Poydras toward the river which have been pulling debris off the tops of buildings for the last 3 days. There's also a steady flow of fuel trucks coming in from all over. Saw some police from New York today too. One thing that I haven't seen today is a fire truck. Maybe the burning is coming to an end.

    I got a chance to talk to a couple of contractors from St. Louis who actually came down before the hurricane to be available for Bell South immediately. They had some stories, especially with regards to the violence down by Le Pavillion."

    hmmmmmm ...........

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    Default Re: 'First Person' info from New Orleans

    thanks for the unsubstantiated hearsay, it's nice to see how these rumors get started...

    someone posts on a blog that he heard someone tell him that someone told him that there are terrorist snipers on the rooftops of New Orleans

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    well every info source needs to be taken with a 'grain of salt' regarding the accuracy and completeness of their information, as well as any potential reason they might have to falsify, omit, or distort information to achieve some particular objective. Along these lines I would tend to give more credibility to the DirectNIC blog than to, say, the New York Times or CBS news !

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    You're right - we certainly do need to consider the the reliability of the person or organization who is supplying us with 'information', as well as whether the selection of rumors or facts they choose to provide is based on providing an accurate and complete picture or whether their selection is based on advancing a particular agenda.

    Good thing we all have brains with which to think for ourselves.

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    That blog was on MSNBC and interviewed and has been independantly confirmed by MSNBC and CNN.

    Why so negative?

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    Default Re: 'First Person' info from New Orleans

    I pointed out third hand hearsay that there were terrorist snipers on the rooftops of New Orleans. If you want to consider my scepticism as 'negative', ok.

    How does a blog get interviewed or 'confirmed'? lol

    ps -search google news for 'snipers', you will find only 'unconfirmed reports'... for example:
    NEW ORLEANS -- There are reports from New Orleans of shots being fired at cell phone workers on towers trying to restore service.

    Authorities have been going door to door at nearby apartment buildings, sometimes forcing doors open in their search for snipers.

    Some pawn shops in the area are federally licensed gun dealers that were looted in the wake of Hurricane Katrina.

    The operation includes dozens of New Orleans police, Louisiana State Police, ATF and other law enforcement members. Most are wearing flak jackets.

    No shots have been heard during Wednesday morning's operation and no one has been pulled out of any apartments.
    http://www.click2houston.com/news/4943362/detail.html

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    Default Re: 'First Person' info from New Orleans

    My brother might be getting a pass to get into the city. I'll let you know if he hears any gunshots...

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    Default Re: 'First Person' info from New Orleans

    Well, here's a photo journal from a resident, from pre-hurricane to flood time.

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    Default Re: 'First Person' info from New Orleans

    Quote Originally Posted by dlabtot
    I pointed out third hand hearsay that there were terrorist snipers on the rooftops of New Orleans. If you want to consider my scepticism as 'negative', ok.

    How does a blog get interviewed or 'confirmed'? lol

    ps -search google news for 'snipers', you will find only 'unconfirmed reports'... for example:
    Camera crews, the guys have set up webcams, they also have photojournals.....

    /shrug

    Healthy skepticism is good, but if you read what they're saying, they're being equally as skeptical and just saying what they've heard from, you know, being there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biz
    Camera crews, the guys have set up webcams, they also have photojournals.....

    /shrug

    Healthy skepticism is good, but if you read what they're saying, they're being equally as skeptical and just saying what they've heard from, you know, being there.
    That has nothing to do with it! My sociology class and communist/leftist/politically correct teacher says otherwise!

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    Default Re: 'First Person' info from New Orleans

    there are cameras that have recorded pictures or video of these snipers?

    link, please, lol

    btw, I wish people would be a little more attentive to what exactly it is they are responding to. I am criticizing people spreading rumors, for example, third hand unconfirmed reports of speculation that there are terrorist snipers on the rooftops of New Orleans. I am not criticizing first hand accounts and reporting.

    duh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    That has nothing to do with it! My sociology class and communist/leftist/politically correct teacher says otherwise!
    how's class going? getting good grades?

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    Default Re: 'First Person' info from New Orleans

    That was a great journal to read through it really showed how everything kind of unfolded .

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Zeno
    Well, here's a photo journal from a resident, from pre-hurricane to flood time.

    http://www.kodakgallery.com/Slidesho...Uy=nyvoby&Ux=1

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    Default Re: 'First Person' info from New Orleans

    The Poo is spilling over! Again!
    "She has written so well, and marvellously well, that I was completely ashamed of myself as a writer...But this girl, who is to my knowledge very unpleasant and we might even say a high-grade bitch, can write rings around all of us who consider ourselves as writers"

    Ernest Hemingway on writer, aviation pioneer and horse trainer Beryl Markham


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