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    ok i'm not sure where to place these questions. but i know a lot of people on here are in school to be nurses, doctors, lawyers- things like that. is anyone a education major or work with children? does your job now effect your career or studies? do you fear being blacklisted from education because you strip? had an arguement with my mother (again) about the topic. she feels that if i do ever go back to school to teach little kids (which i won't do- tried it already. not for me) even thinking about working in the industry will screw me over big time. just wondering

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    I don't think so, I have certainly danced with women who have become teachers. But they were very careful not to dance near the town where they student-taught in school, and definitely don't take any naked pictures ever that could be posted online or published. In other words it's something you would want to keep off of your resume, but unless someone who was a customer was also a parent and a total freaking dick, you're not in real danger of being busted once you are out of school, not stripping, and in your future job.

    Drug and prostitution arrests are, I hear, much worse than a rumor one was a stripper.

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    As long as you can be fingerprinted without anything coming up in a national database, or you relocate to another state, I don't see how stripping could blackball you. Many US states are short of teachers/ educational professionals and can't afford to turn away applicants over trivial matters.
    Someone else probably has better advice, but from what I know, it's not a big deal.

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    i'm not studying childhood education or anything, but not too long ago, i got a job working for a company that hosted themed childrens' birthday parties, meaning we dressed up in costume, went along to these parties, danced, sang songs and did craft activities with the kids.

    the job went really well for about 2 weeks, until i attended my first staff meeting, and realised that a girl i went to high school with and never particularly got along with worked for the same company. as soon as i saw her i panicked because i knew she knew i was a stripper. the following weekend i was supposed to be doing 2 parties, but got a text message from the boss unexplainedly telling me rather harshly not to bother doing them. i haven't heard from them since, and they won't take my calls.

    they never actually told me, but considering how well everything was going, the only explanation i can come up with is that the girl from my school told them i was a stripper.

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    I'm sorry to hear that Darcy. That kind of thing happened to me, but at a regular workplace before I was a dancer (jealous ugly co-worker.) Women can be so evil.
    I can honestly say if you danced through school and moved to California, you would be hired as a teacher even without finished credentials. The districts are in no position to turn away anyone willing to work for that kind of pay in this kind of state. LOL
    I could see "small town gossip" problems, but that could happen anywhere.

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    that's shady and bullshitty to be fired when you were doing your job right i knew i was right though about the whole thing in general

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    You should consider not just what a background check would produce but what the actual job application questions might be. The application may have some questions about being involved in "immoral" activities and such. Remember, in most jobs, lying on the application in considered grounds for firing. I once considered substitute teaching as a little part time job. After reading the application I decided not to pursue it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destiny
    You should consider not just what a background check would produce but what the actual job application questions might be. The application may have some questions about being involved in "immoral" activities and such. Remember, in most jobs, lying on the application in considered grounds for firing. I once considered substitute teaching as a little part time job. After reading the application I decided not to pursue it.
    I think immoral means stealing (or looting), etc. Law breaking or misdemenaors that aren't covered by the felony questions.

    Otherwise... imagine how a CEO who fired 10,000 people to get a couple million dollars in bonus money would have to answer that question!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol
    I think immoral means stealing (or looting), etc. Law breaking or misdemenaors that aren't covered by the felony questions.

    Otherwise... imagine how a CEO who fired 10,000 people to get a couple million dollars in bonus money would have to answer that question!
    A dancer that paid a ticket she got for violating some stupid distance or no-touch rule may very well have a misdemeanor guilty plea on her record. I don't know that a misdemeanor would show up in a criminal background check, but she would still be guilty of lying on the application if she didn't mention it. This may vary from state to state, I don't know, but it's something A.n.a.l.a. might want to check into. Also, don't forget, your definition of what's immoral may not be the same as the members of the school board.
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    I majored in Sociology and minored in Early Childhood. I haven't had any problems. I have worked in 2 schools and it isn't really something that comes up. No one ever said... "did you strip before?" A few parents have known because they've seen me. One board member knows because he knows my family but he also knows I keep my professions very seperate.
    However, if it did come up as a problem I would not have a problem explaining that it in no way affects the job I do with children. I am very liberal and I know I have shown that in my work with children and families in my community. Be prepared to be proud and able to back your decision of being a dancer.
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    Hmmmmmm I am an education major and I've done nude photoshoots and worked in some shady places....I doubt it will come back and bite me in the ass though. I've never really worried about it, after all I need good $$$ to set myself up once I am done University in 2 years, so if anyone happens to find out......that's their problem. I'm going to be a high school english teacher too, buaha so I guess we'll see what happens. I wouldn't worry about it too much....I am just not going to teach in the area I do now.

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    Here's a section from the substitute teacher application form for the school district I live in:

    Have you ever been convicted of a felony or a crime involving moral turpitude*? Yes_____ No______

    If Yes, please explain: __________________________________________________ _____________________
    __________________________________________________ ________________________________________

    * Moral Turpitude demonstrates depravity in the private and social duties which one human being owes to another and to society at large. It is contrary to what is accepted as customary. Examples include theft, bribery, larceny, offenses involving dishonesty and false statement, prostitution and other sexual offenses.**


    Have you ever been convicted of a felony or any offense involving moral turpitude and received deferred adjudication** or probation?
    Yes____ No_____

    If Yes, please explain: __________________________________________________ _____________________
    __________________________________________________ ________________________________________

    **Deferred adjudication is a process through which criminal charges are dismissed without a conviction when an individual pleads guilty or nolo contendere (no contest) and subsequently successfully serves a period of probation prior to the court entering a judgment on the charge (s).

    Now obviously every school district is different. But any dancer thinking about a career in public education should be very careful.

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    Funny how ex-strippers become politicians, sales brokers, writers, private businessowners with employees, etc........ this job is supposed to show you that you shouldn't settle for a crappy paycheck.
    I suppose due to the American mentality, future teachers should be careful. What a country!

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    Believe me, know one will know unless you strip in the state/county you live in. It won't effect you getting hired. College is expensive, and you are making a better life 4 yourself. Don;t tell anyone, they only know what you tell. Teachers are human like everyone else.

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    Believe me, know one will know unless you strip in the state/county you live in. It won't effect you getting hired. College is expensive, and you are making a better life 4 yourself. Don;t tell anyone, they only know what you tell.
    Again this is true to the actual extent that a prospective 'straight employer' in one state/county has general database access to public/criminal records from other states/counties. In New York for example the shared database includes about 6 states. This means that if you are staking your future on being 'less than forthcoming and truthful' on a job application and not being discovered that you better keep driving until you cross the Ohio state line.

    This doesn't apply to busts stemming from violations of local ordinances of small cities/counties, simply because there usually isn't a 'field' already existing in the database which matches up to the ordinance violation. However, if you are busted for lewd conduct or prostitution (violations of state law rather than local ordinance), unless your record is expunged, both the charge and the disposition will appear in the database. This is true even if you were found innocent and the charges were dropped if your record was not expunged. This is particularly true if you 'cop a plea' to deferred ejudication and probation or a fine, which is essentially treated the same as a guilty verdict in the database.

    In general, any profession involving other people's children is particularly sensitive to 'moral terpitude' issues.

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    So are dancers. That's why you have to have damn near a heart/ will/ nerve/ compassion of steel to be in this industry and make a long term and profitable career at it.
    That is what also makes good educators. Sometimes you gotta pull out those big guns!
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    Lewd behavior, public indecency - in some states, it's my understanding that this can be enough to get you "sexual offender" status and on the database, even if the charge is no more than a misdemeanor. How does that affect a public job involving kids?

    The question came up in in real life, "If a drunk college student is caught peeing into the bushes on Main Street, does that charge (public urination) earn him a place on the sex offenders list?" The attorney in the discussion said, in effect, "Don't bet against it."

    We have a new age of puritanism in many places in this country, even as sexual elements become more pronounced. Accusation can be nearly tantamount to conviction, and conviction earns that figurative scarlet "A" long into the future, even on relatively minor charges.

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    hmm.....interesting....

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    Just to clear what I was saying up. I am not saying to lie, you have to get a BCI b/f getting a job w/ a school dept, and it is nationwide. I work in the field of education. ok are we talking about getting hired w/ a criminal record, or getting hired being a stripper? Dancing is not a crime. I meant don't tell people you work w/. School depts look for child molestation and violent crimes against others. The BCI will tell you if you have disqualifying info. Example DUI/DWI is not a disqualifying crime.

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