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    girls what do you think of your regulars? easy money + atm machine without a debit card/password? or do they deserve a little better treatment than other customrers? I don't mean anything special or extras but just spending a little more time with them?
    ok heres my story. A week ago, I went back to the club I usually went to. My atf checked me out every hour, spending 1 or 2 minutes with me and told me there were other customers and she wanted to get some dances from them before they left and then went for other customrers. yes there is nothing wrong to try to make more money if it is possible. But I hated to stay there for hours alone as other girls know I am her regular and did not sit with me. I did not plan to get laps from her that night but was willing to spend around $800 on her for just sitting and talking with me although I did not tell her that. Say I am stupd or weird whatever. I was really pissed because she kept going to others and got one or two dance from them which is from $20-$50 and kept going back to those mofos after a couple of hours and see if they wanted more but left me ALONE. I do not think she made more than $200 from other guys before I left. Sounds like she felt my money was hers fo sho as I only spent money on her. I felt really angry and paid her for a dance just did not want to be rude and left. I liked the girl and was willing to spend some money on her but it does not mean I gave her any privilege to ignore me and treat me like shit for whatever reason.
    I am not a troll, just want know what you think of your regualrs. Thanks in advance

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    I enjoy most of my regulars and I don't bounce around if I made plans to spend time with them in the club. I have been bored with a couple of regulars before though and sometimes it is nice to meet new people

    Maybe you should tell her you have to leave at a certain time so she won't think she can just come back to you. I have a couple of regulars that give me money upfront when they come in and I just stay the amount of time/dances that the amount warrants. I think you have to have a good dancer/customer relationship for that however.


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    My regulars are friends. I spend time with them even if it isnt for cash.
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    Is this the same girl you discussed in a post earlier this month (that she moves on after dances which upsets you) or is this someone else?

    ... people make time for people who are important to them.

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    I'm with Paige here, I like all of my regulars and will spend time with them regardless. If there is money to be made elsewhere most of them will say "Go make some money and come back" or they will just pay me for my time so I don't loose out. In my club the boss does get upset if you don't keep moving around the club trying to make money but there are times I think that it's more important to hang out with them for nothing than trying to make $ elsewhere, (looking at the bigger picture which is all about friendship and treating people the way you like to be treated etc...) Sounds like you've been taken for granted a bit if she didn't give you any reasonable explanation.

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    She probably needed to be *sure* to make money that night, so if you weren't buying, she needed to sell dances to other customers. This is a JOB. She likely goes to work because she needs money like everyone else does. Maybe she couldn't afford to risk whether you were spending that night or not. As far as she could tell, you weren't spending money. The other customers were spending.

    She may be beautiful, but she is not psychic. If you weren't buying dances from her that night, but were willing to spend money on her for company, you should have indicated that somehow. How else would she know this??? You weren't buying dances...how was she supposed to know you were still going to give her money???

    I did not plan to get laps from her that night but was willing to spend around $800 on her for just sitting and talking with me although I did not tell her that.
    And you're mad at HER?

    WTF?

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    thanks Delany
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    I enjoy most of my regulars and I don't bounce around if I made plans to spend time with them in the club. I have been bored with a couple of regulars before though and sometimes it is nice to meet new people

    Maybe you should tell her you have to leave at a certain time so she won't think she can just come back to you. I have a couple of regulars that give me money upfront when they come in and I just stay the amount of time/dances that the amount warrants. I think you have to have a good dancer/customer relationship for that however.

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    I always answered "go head" when she wanted to sit with others to empty their pocket. I am cool with this but just do not do it too much at a single night. you know what i mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by aussiepunkshocker
    I'm with Paige here, I like all of my regulars and will spend time with them regardless. If there is money to be made elsewhere most of them will say "Go make some money and come back" or they will just pay me for my time so I don't loose out. In my club the boss does get upset if you don't keep moving around the club trying to make money but there are times I think that it's more important to hang out with them for nothing than trying to make $ elsewhere, (looking at the bigger picture which is all about friendship and treating people the way you like to be treated etc...) Sounds like you've been taken for granted a bit if she didn't give you any reasonable explanation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obenta
    She probably needed to be *sure* to make money that night, so if you weren't buying, she needed to sell dances to other customers. This is a JOB. She likely goes to work because she needs money like everyone else does. Maybe she couldn't afford to risk whether you were spending that night or not. As far as she could tell, you weren't spending money. The other customers were spending.
    ok ok my fault. I should put my money on the table and said "heres the money. sit with me or you don't get it". I am not putting the money there upfront. No way.

    OK yes she is not sure if I am spending or not that night. So she moves to the better chance to sit with others and leave me alone. Right it is safer for her that night if I am a random guy. Do you think the couple of hundred worth it if she pissed me off that night by ignoring me and will no longer get a paycheck from me in the future. get $300-500 more that night(say I am not spending that night) or lose $15K a year. You decide.

    btw what I said is not leave me alone for hours! just want to make sure you did not get me wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Obenta
    She may be beautiful, but she is not psychic. If you weren't buying dances from her that night, but were willing to spend money on her for company, you should have indicated that somehow. How else would she know this??? You weren't buying dances...how was she supposed to know you were still going to give her money???

    And you're mad at HER?

    WTF?
    Yes I am 80% mad at her. WTF huh?

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    Had you not been in for a while? I don't know, but she may have been unsure about your "regular" status if it had been a bit. Or maybe she was having a bad night. That can happen where you aren't in the mood to really engage someone for a lot of time because of a bad mood.

    I have different levels of regulars - there are the guys that see me and other girls as well and get dances from us all. I am always happy to see them, but don't make them a super priority if the club is busy - of course I always make sure to check in with them.

    There are guys that come and see only me but spend 60 to 100 bucks or so. And this catagory is where I have a few wierdos - only because they really want to just fuck me - and they think if they spend just enough to make it worth while I will spend all my time with them and eventually, of course, go out with them. Of course there are guys that just come in every week or so and see me and they are great and I don't mind hanging out with them.

    Then there's my player's club. I have only like 3 of these guys - but when they walk in the door I'm all theirs. Because, regardless of whether the club is packed and I could even make more hustling new guys, it would be stupid because they are repeat customers and if I make them happy they will be back and they spend a substantial amount on me. You've already done the hardest part of your hustle, they're already sold on you, you know what they like, and they pay you appropriately.

    I heart my regulars.

    Oh, and when Obenta asked if you are mad at her - it may be because you were probably putting off a vibe that night that she was pissing you off - and I can't speak for other girls but that can be a deterent to sit with someone, because then you feel like you need to spend a bunch of time nursing their ego back and you may lose money making time. I know that doesn't sound very nice, but if she was into a hustling vibe that night, she may not have wanted to risk time on a regular who might be getting too emotionally attached.
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    If I understand your story correctly, you went into the club with $800, spent $20, and you are mad because this dancer did not spend more time with you, even though she was busy working. You didn't tell her you planned on spending all this money on her, but you expected her to hang out with you all night anyway.

    Maybe you should visit a mind-reader instead of a stripper if you want them to know what is inside your head without your saying so.

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    Mr. Humpalot, I would like to point out that many guys SAY that they will tip us just to sit and talk to them. Very few follow through on that promise. The mistake that was made was that you said nothing to her. Since you are a regular, it seems this aspect of your relationship has never been explored. The next time, simply hand her $200 at the beginning of each hour, tell her it's to stay and talk 45 minutes out of each hour (management may not like her sitting with you and only you seemingly not making any money-keep them off her back). Then let her make a few extra dollars elsewhere. Make sure you take care of any drinks she needs as well and pay for her to stay off stage. If there is a VIP room, then take her in there unless she would have to pay them to much for it.

    I had a custy like that. He would come in on the slower nights. My dance count dropped off those days, but I was taking home more money with less stress and wasn't nearly as tired the next day. However, he talked to me about it first. I would spend half an hour with him and go ask for dances. If I got soem, I'd go dance. if not, I'd go back to him. Worked out great (heck, I didnt' even WANT to go dance for anyone at that point)!
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    welll if i am a random guy, of course, leave me alone if there are people that you think you can make more money from. I would make the same choice.

    If you see someone who will at lease double your money comes in and he spends everytime(although he does not say "I will spend on you tonight". remember he never talked about if he is spending or not), you go over to other random people and ignore him? What is a regualr? The one who spends on you most of the time. If you are not high on drugs, you do not need to be a mind reader to know this, right? Its like there is free $100 for you and you get it by just showing up, but you choose to bet and roll the dice to win some $20. Is it a smart choice? I don't know.

    and please remeber what I am talking about is a REGULAR who can double or triple your money for that night, OK? and I NEVER ever said I wanted her to spend ALL night with me!

    Quote Originally Posted by dlabtot
    If I understand your story correctly, you went into the club with $800, spent $20, and you are mad because this dancer did not spend more time with you, even though she was busy working. You didn't tell her you planned on spending all this money on her, but you expected her to hang out with you all night anyway.

    Maybe you should visit a mind-reader instead of a stripper if you want them to know what is inside your head without your saying so.
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    Hell Ms Sky. She knows I am and she told me she does have some regulars and they do spend on her, but I am one of the biggest spenders. I believe we are clear about that. btw, how does your regular know if a night is slow or not? By calling you?

    Quote Originally Posted by MinahSky
    Mr. Humpalot, I would like to point out that many guys SAY that they will tip us just to sit and talk to them. Very few follow through on that promise. The mistake that was made was that you said nothing to her. Since you are a regular, it seems this aspect of your relationship has never been explored. The next time, simply hand her $200 at the beginning of each hour, tell her it's to stay and talk 45 minutes out of each hour (management may not like her sitting with you and only you seemingly not making any money-keep them off her back). Then let her make a few extra dollars elsewhere. Make sure you take care of any drinks she needs as well and pay for her to stay off stage. If there is a VIP room, then take her in there unless she would have to pay them to much for it.

    I had a custy like that. He would come in on the slower nights. My dance count dropped off those days, but I was taking home more money with less stress and wasn't nearly as tired the next day. However, he talked to me about it first. I would spend half an hour with him and go ask for dances. If I got soem, I'd go dance. if not, I'd go back to him. Worked out great (heck, I didnt' even WANT to go dance for anyone at that point)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivanahumpalot
    welll if i am a random guy, of course, leave me alone if there are people that you think you can make more money from. I would make the same choice.

    If you see someone who will at lease double your money comes in and he spends everytime(although he does not say "I will spend on you tonight". remember he never talked about if he is spending or not), you go over to other random people and ignore him? What is a regualr? The one who spends on you most of the time. If you are not high on drugs, you do not need to be a mind reader to know this, right? Its like there is free $100 for you and you get it by just showing up, but you choose to bet and roll the dice to win some $20. Is it a smart choice? I don't know.

    and please remeber what I am talking about is a REGULAR who can double or triple your money for that night, OK? and I NEVER ever said I wanted her to spend ALL night with me!
    well, gee, maybe based on your experience, you should change your expectations as to how you will be treated just because you are a 'regular'. Maybe you should just start waving the money around as if you were just 'a random guy'. Because the distance between 'a random guy' and 'a regular' is measured in dollars.

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    Personally, I don't treat my custies that way. I dont' think she deserves to be your ATF if she doent' knwo how to treat you.

    I didn't not say in any way that you were wrong except for letting her know that it was there simply for sitting and talking. I may have been wrong since she knows what kind of custy you are already.

    You never know how good or bad a night is. One night, at 1AM I had NO dances. And I was one of the top 3 dancers in that club. I went up on the extra stage and this guy started throwing $20s at me. Then he got like 50 nude dances and only stopped because we closed at 4. You never can tell.

    It does help to have a good custy on a slow night, but since you dont' know when that will be, you can't really call it. But certain nights, like Monday and Tuesday are usually slower than the weekends. I have mostly older gentlemen as my custies, so they dont' really like to be there on the weekends. So they usually come on a weekday or early on a weekend night.

    P.S. All custies were some "random guy" at one point or another, I dont' treat anyone just any old way...
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    $800! Are you crazy! The girl doesn't want to be bought and it sounds like that is what you are trying to do. Money doesn't buy everything even when it "seems" available. Sure your pissed at being ignored but this isn't a restaurant and she isn't a waitress. And yes I'm sure she sensed it from across the room. If your coming in there with that much money for one girl to "spend time with" your looking for something more that she can give and maybe thats the message she gave you. You may be a regular of hers but your not dating. Dude back off from this one before you really get taken for a ride or lose your self respect or both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivanahumpalot
    btw, how does your regular know if a night is slow or not? By calling you?
    Uhh, scanning the amount of people in the room perhaps is a good indicator, (particularly the number of people who are making interaction with your ATF). You can always ask her next visit what days she works and what the light parts of her shift are.

    I really don't mind my ATF getting away from me for a moment to do dances with other people. It helps me keep in mind that my time with her is first and foremost a business transaction, and I get to scout the competition while she is away. Also it helps her make money. She knows that I am willing to wait fifteen minutes whereas the "random customer" isn't going to wait an hour for me to be finished with her. If I were to demand she stop doing this and it began costing her sales (and possibly the chance to make new regulars) then my money:maintenence ratio is probably going to take a plunge.

    Regular of not, if you didn't "guarantee" your money by making any prior arrangements, then you take a number like anyone else. Needless to say, if you feel she's taking you for granted, you're not under any obligation to keep doing business with her. She's no more entitled to your money than you are to her attention.

    I also have to state, if you're actually dropping $800 a visit just for talking, you're going to create a perception in her mind that you work like a law of diminishing returns, where each subsequent visit means less money and more maintenence to take care of you. You'd have been better off starting with a smaller amount and upping the total in accordance to how well she performed.
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    i also love all of my regulars. I get to know them all though and i love to spend time with them. There is one in particular that i do drop everything and go over to him and only spend time with him. He's been my friend/custy for over 2 years and i would be dumb to not go right up to him. (he comes all the way to detroit from minnesota just to see me). And the other regulars I go up to whenever i get a chance. They understand that i am there to make money and they also know that if i have a chance, i will go to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hannah83
    i also love all of my regulars. I get to know them all though and i love to spend time with them. There is one in particular that i do drop everything and go over to him and only spend time with him. He's been my friend/custy for over 2 years and i would be dumb to not go right up to him. (he comes all the way to detroit from minnesota just to see me). And the other regulars I go up to whenever i get a chance. They understand that i am there to make money and they also know that if i have a chance, i will go to them.

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    Thanks doc. I know her schedule and she works hard, never sits at the bar always sits with the customrs. I would not mind waiting for 15min too but not hours.

    I hope there is more competition but looks like everygirl has her own regulars. Noone will sit with other girls' regulars as it will piss her off. So maybe I need to try some other clubs. Also I never asked a gril to sit with me. Its all up to her. What about you? Do you ask them to sit with you or not?

    The $800 talking money is just a one time thing and nobody got it. I just felt like spending that night.

    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish
    Uhh, scanning the amount of people in the room perhaps is a good indicator, (particularly the number of people who are making interaction with your ATF). You can always ask her next visit what days she works and what the light parts of her shift are.

    I really don't mind my ATF getting away from me for a moment to do dances with other people. It helps me keep in mind that my time with her is first and foremost a business transaction, and I get to scout the competition while she is away. Also it helps her make money. She knows that I am willing to wait fifteen minutes whereas the "random customer" isn't going to wait an hour for me to be finished with her. If I were to demand she stop doing this and it began costing her sales (and possibly the chance to make new regulars) then my money:maintenence ratio is probably going to take a plunge.

    Regular of not, if you didn't "guarantee" your money by making any prior arrangements, then you take a number like anyone else. Needless to say, if you feel she's taking you for granted, you're not under any obligation to keep doing business with her. She's no more entitled to your money than you are to her attention.

    I also have to state, if you're actually dropping $800 a visit just for talking, you're going to create a perception in her mind that you work like a law of diminishing returns, where each subsequent visit means less money and more maintenence to take care of you. You'd have been better off starting with a smaller amount and upping the total in accordance to how well she performed.

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    You mean I should go to a restaurnt and drop $800 on a waitress and ask her to sit with me and get some lap dances? I should have learned that money does NOT buy everything from my previous relationship long time ago but I think I never got it. Rember I am not dating. They are dancers. Normalling money does not buy you love, but does it buy you lap dances? Yes, I guess.
    Well, my girl is not that kind of hot girl but just 100% my type of everything. I like her a lot but my mind is not screwed yet. I know it is all business. I will not get deep into it. All I want is some dances, some talk, and maybe being acquaintance some time(not even friend). Thnaks for your advice. Damn, I really hope my future girlfriend is a stripper.

    Quote Originally Posted by skanklover
    $800! Are you crazy! The girl doesn't want to be bought and it sounds like that is what you are trying to do. Money doesn't buy everything even when it "seems" available. Sure your pissed at being ignored but this isn't a restaurant and she isn't a waitress. And yes I'm sure she sensed it from across the room. If your coming in there with that much money for one girl to "spend time with" your looking for something more that she can give and maybe thats the message she gave you. You may be a regular of hers but your not dating. Dude back off from this one before you really get taken for a ride or lose your self respect or both.

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    Haha, get real huh? In this f****** world, what is real? Greens, ok? I hate to say but eveything in this world has a price tag including you and me! Don't live in a fairy tale. Get real!

    Quote Originally Posted by dlabtot
    well, gee, maybe based on your experience, you should change your expectations as to how you will be treated just because you are a 'regular'. Maybe you should just start waving the money around as if you were just 'a random guy'. Because the distance between 'a random guy' and 'a regular' is measured in dollars.

    Get real.

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    My atf checked me out every hour, spending 1 or 2 minutes with me and told me there were other customers and she wanted to get some dances from them before they left and then went for other customrers.

    Ok...she checked with you every hour to see if you were spending...giving you the option of her time before anyone else in the room....every time she checked on you, the answer to the "is he spending?" question was always "no"...she'd check with you, you didn't seem ready to spend, she has bills to pay...so she continued about her business. Like it or not there are some nights that a dancer cannot afford to risk making less money no matter how much they like a regular or how much they'd liek to spend more time with them.
    She let you know it was one of those kind of nights by telling you she was going to other customers to look for dances(money)...her saying that was YOUR CUE to say something like "why don't you stay here with me? It will be more worth your while than fooling with those 'average joes'"...

    This is a job. This is business. She doesn't owe you any more than exactly the time you PAY for. You weren't paying that night as far as she was aware. She gave you some of her time anyway...because you are a regular.
    Most people treat regular customers differently...that is their choice...she chose to give you right of first refusal EVERY HOUR and took the time to come over to you every hour to see if you wanted her company. If you had started spending, I'm sure you would have gotten more and better attention than the average joe customer because you are her regular. Yes she treated you better and gave you more consideration than everyone else. It sounds to me that even though she needed to make money, she gave you consideration and respect as a regular all night long! All you had to do was act on her cues...she says she needs to look for dances(money)..that's your cue to spend a bit of money.

    Don't give up on your girl...instead try a different approach next time. It sounds like a simple miscommunication between dancer and customer that can easily be solved with just a different approach and better communicating.


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    ^^^^very well said
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