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    Greetings ladies,
    I am in the process of designing a club and have a couple questions. I would also like your opinions about some of my ideas. I do not have an unlimited budget, but would like to see to it that the dancers at my club are as comfortable and happy as possible. Your input is greatly appreciated.


    Question #1: What design features, accomodations, etc. do dancers most prefer?

    My current list of ideas:

    (1) Rotating poles

    (2) Special stage flooring typically used in dance studios that has rubber matting below it. This type of floor is softer and "springier" than typical stages.

    (3) A dressing room shower

    (4) Couches and televisions in the dressing room

    (5) Free tampons in the dressing room (would this privelage get abused?)

    (6) Girls select their own attire and music (within reason...I don't really want a girl dressed like a mastadon dancing to "The Blue Danube")

    (7) Customer dress codes (no sweaty guys in tank-tops and speedos)

    ( Anything else that you suggest (also within reason...I realize that you would prefer no tip-outs and complete, unfettered discretion in your schedules, but I too would like to eat!)

    Question #2: I will preface this next question by saying that what you or anybody does on their own time is none of my business unless it harms me. That being said, it is very important to me that drugs NOT enter the premises. As many of you know, law enforcement does not generally smile upon clubs of our ilk and often times authorities are just dying for an excuse to close a place down. I don't wish to give them one. Do you have any suggestions as to how to monitor drugs in the club? Drug testing is out of the question as, again, I don't care if a girl does them elsewhere (I shouldn't say I don't care, because I do, just for other reasons).

    I don't mean to stereotype here. As a musician, I am constantly viewed as being a druggie (I'm not). As a very soon-to-be attorney, I am constantly viewed as being a liar (I'm not). As a soon-to-be gentlemen's club owner, I am sure that I'll be viewed as a whole host of things that I'm not. (For the record however, I certainly do smoke like a chimney and may very well have an unhealthy addiction to sex...but I digress. And no, I am not opening a club to try to get laid. Thats what my band is for!)

    Some assorted ideas that I have (I'd appreciate if you would tell me if any or all of these would be desired):

    (1) Scholarships for dancers (provided that they keep up those grades of course!)

    (2) Paid rehab

    (3) 401(k)

    (4) 24/7 telephone access to me (I will not be managing the club and will be in it infrequently) to voice any concerns.

    (5) Anything else you think of (again, within reason...I realize that you would dearly love the dressing room to contain a day spa and non-speaking men with rippling abdominal muscles to cater to your every whim. If I make enough money, I'll certainly consider these things...in the mean time).

    Thank you very, very much for your input. Hopefully, with your help, I can start a club that girls are happy and comfortable in and are happy to go to for reasons other than just the tips.

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    you don't happen to be starting this wonder club in the md/dc/va area, do you?
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    Default Re: What would dancers like?

    That would be a really nice Club to work in........where do you plan on doing this at...? I just don't like the whole tip out thing working in the club so i think your pretty much on your P's & Q's

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    Well lets start with the flooring, I love anything that protects my knees but reality is drunk dancers on them....

    Dressing room shower.... already a must... and you'll need at least 3 depending on the size of your club.

    Couches and TV in the dressing room, only if you want your waitstaff and dancers who are bored or/& lazy sitting back there just because they don't feel like working.

    Free tampons..... comes with having a house mom, she takes care of all of that.

    Girls selecting their own attire.... thats a good thing as long as you have a list of things you don't want them wearing, such as tee-shirts ( yes I have seen a girl try and wear this on stage) or flip flops.

    Anything involving scholarships/401k/paid rehab would involve you having the dancers as employees and paying them some kind of salary since the amount you put into your emplyoers 401k is based on how much you make. Same thing with scholarships if you plan to write them off your taxes.... paid rehab..... maybe offering a form of health insurance that includes mental health would be more cost effective.....

    Good Luck.

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    Much of this sounds AMAZING!

    The only idea that seems a little strange is the free tampons. Emergency tampon cupboard sounds like a great idea, but for regular use, most women I know are very brand-picky and have their own preferences, so it's unlikely to get used outside of a sudden oops emergency.

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    I would love to see a strip club with an actually well-designed, frequently updated, serious website with a bulletin board and individual e-mail accounts for the dancers.

    as in: [email protected]

    That would be such a convenient thing to give customers who want your phone number.
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    Default Re: What would dancers like?

    You sound like you are on the right track...where will this club be located?
    in response to your questions...
    Question #1
    Rotating poles.... might be nice on a second stage but for the main stage i would suggest a stationary one...however i have never worked on a rotating one so maybe it would be good
    Flooring...a springier flooring may be a bad idea considering we are wearing 8 in platforms. it would be nice on the knees but i imagine it could cause problem with the shoes
    Shower....a must...try a couple
    couch and tv.....i wouldnt leave the dressing room...so probably no
    free tampons...just get a housemom and she should take care of that as well as the other needs, hair beauty etc
    Question #2
    It can be hard to regulate however have them sign a contract stating that all bags and lockers can be searched with reasonable suspicion.the bags may be harder than th lockers since theyre not your property but it will help keep drugs out...also set up a high fine(500-1000) or immediate dismissal from the club

    Also I would say 24/7 telephone access would be great but can be annoying to you. im not sure about the rehab 401k or scholarships....keep in mind it will be a while before you make back what you invested so these things may have to wait.

    thats just my 2 cents

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    ^^ yep, taylor said is all !!

    gosh, this sounds like a dream club. where i work.... we have no house mom (i so want one!!!!) or anyone like that to help out, we have a dodgey run down TINY change room where half the lockers are broken, and the plumings screwdup, so you can't you use the hand basin after you go to the toliet....... yuck, and ofcouse no showers or anything!!!
    theres only one stage and the poll isn't high enough (most of the girls can touch the celicing while standing) so you cant do any decent tricks
    .. and drugs... well, theyre pretty much encouraged! theyre everwhere!!

    but its the only club in the whole state so what can i do

    anyways, mister....

    i agree about the couches/tv's making your dancers lazy!!
    but its a good idea to have a nice change room with showers and i think hiring a house mom to take care of the supplies and the girls is definatly a good idea.

    also, so other ideas......
    a washing machine at work is helpful, and if you provide lots of (club owned) costumes for the girls to borrow & use for shows...

    i don't think a spinning pole or a fancy floor are so important, and they might even just annoy some more experinced dancers who arent used to it. haha

    not sure what you could do about the drug stuff, if you have a way of inforcing fines, then that could help?
    pretty much, its a strip club, so theyre proberbly going to try it.

    make sure you have nicely set up lapdance rooms & good secrurity cameras.....

    and give the dancers good drink discounts!!!

    goodluck, let us know how you go!!

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    Do you mean the hardwood floor with the springy stuff UNDER it, like a basketball court? I actauilly like that idea. Have some dancers in heels walk and dance on a sample to see what they think.

    Make sure your securety is the BEST. Actaul big, mean bouncers and also camera/electronic survalence. Leave no corner unobserved. That will discourage most or all extras. Also, make sure the bounces know what thier most important and ONLY job is: To protect your dancers and your oprperty. NOT to schmooze w/ custies, get laid, etc. There are some horrible bouncer threads on these boards. YOu can look at them for examples of things bouncers should never do, that you never dreamed they would.

    Have Nakid Assetts (dancerwealth) come to your club for dancer training. You and your girls will make a ton more money that way.

    Someday when I grow up, I too woudl like to own a club. IF you can figure out how to do the 401k, let me know. You CAN get group discounts on almost anything, from costumes to health insurance, if only you ask. That would be important to me as a dancer.

    As for the poles, you caqn get locking ones that rotate or lock. Very simple. I personally prefer the rotatng ones becaaues that is how I learned, and I find the stationarey oens hard to cope with. I have a big scar on my leg from where I rubbed all the skin off on a stationary pole.

    Also, make your girls feel appreciated. We get treated like so many cattle so much of the time. One club owner bought us all a gift for valentines day. That was super-sweet. We all gushed for days. Same owner bought us all hats. Not big expenses here, jsut little stuff.

    Sorry so disjointed. I need to sleep. OH yeah, my favoirte ammenity ever--free coffee fo rthe dancers!


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    These responses are fantastic! Thank you all so much. I wouldn't have expected such thoughtful answers so quickly.

    A quick note...I am clearly not a dancer. Much of this is new territory for me (though I did date an exceptionally talented dancer for several years and, through her, know more than most but still not enough). Regarding things such as 401(k)s and the like, I am aware that those require salaries...and I haven't ruled them out. Just because every other club is run a certain way doesn't mean mine has to be. Regarding scholarships and such, those are mutually beneficial (based on my preliminary research of the tax code) in that the dancer doesn't have to claim it as income and I can deduct it (if I choose to incorporate rather than form an LLC).

    Some of you have mentioned, very thoughtfully, that my ideas cost money (maybe a lot of it). The Ritz-Carlton costs more than Motel 6. What is the analogy there? It is that dancers are the product (like rooms are Motel 6's). I believe in investing in the product. Of course, this isn't to demean the dancers. As a soon-to-be lawyer, I am essentially a legal product. Most clubs that I know have high turn-over rates. I want dancers at my club to be happy where they are. In addition to that, I want there to be an atmosphere that the club is "ours". I want them to want the club to succeed and I want them to have a vested interest in it succeeding.

    Some specific points:

    (1) The flooring that I mentioned is hardwood with a rubber padding underneath. Thus, the floor has a bit of "spring" to it. Not like a trampoline by any means, just a bit of give.

    (2) Thank you very much for pointing out that several showers is a must. I thought that one would be a luxury and I was wrong.

    (3) I am (intentionally) not well versed in feminine napkins and had no idea what standard club practice regarding them was. I'd like to learn more about the role of house mother in this and other respects, including what dancers expect from the house mother and what our house mother could do to be a step above the rest. I just thought that us providing fem naps could be a way to save the girls a little money and be one less thing for them to grab when they're running late trying to make their shift on time.

    (4) More info about the rotating poles would be great. They seem to me (again, not a dancer) to be rather handy, but perhaps I am mistaken.

    (5) TV's in the dressing room makes the dancers lazy! That sounds like a great point.

    (6) Appreciating the dancers - Appreciation is earned and it is a two-way street. To add to your point...I want to earn their appreciation as well.

    (7) I haven't addressed every point made so far because I'm still pouring over them all. Rest assured that each and every suggestion will be considered at length.

    Again, thank you all.

    By the way, as far as location goes, I'd rather not disclose that right this very moment because I don't want someone else to swindle it from beneath me. Additionally, this plan is still in the early stages. I have tax planning, market research, etc. pouring out of my ears! Damn I need a private dance! When the plan comes to fruition, I assure you that you will all be welcome to come visit or stay.

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    I think "wonder club" may be a bit of a stretch as far a "poshness" goes. As far as attitude goes...I'm shooting for Val Halla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amadeus_x
    (1) The flooring that I mentioned is hardwood with a rubber padding underneath. Thus, the floor has a bit of "spring" to it. Not like a trampoline by any means, just a bit of give.
    Sorry...I have to be the nay-sayer here. Hardwood floors? Fugget about it. Get carpet. The club will be dark, so no one will really see the stains that come with the territory, but if someone spilled something (anything) on the floor, and a dancer comes walking by...ouchie. In fact, ANYBODY falling on the hardwood because of water/drinks/etc would make your club ripe for plucking.

    Get carpet with the "spring" under it.

    (3) I am (intentionally) not well versed in feminine napkins and had no idea what standard club practice regarding them was. I'd like to learn more about the role of house mother in this and other respects, including what dancers expect from the house mother and what our house mother could do to be a step above the rest. I just thought that us providing fem naps could be a way to save the girls a little money and be one less thing for them to grab when they're running late trying to make their shift on time.
    The one thing I would love for a housemom to be able to do is mend small rips/tears in the dresses. At my old club, our house mom's did not do that, and we would have to either take it somewhere outside the club or wait for the dress ladies to come in. That sucked. If you could find a housemom who can sew/mend, brings in healthy food, has a stash of tampons, hair clips, breath mints, is encouraging (when the night gets tough), and is watchful of the girls' stuff...that would make me stay!!

    (4) More info about the rotating poles would be great. They seem to me (again, not a dancer) to be rather handy, but perhaps I am mistaken.
    Actually, you should get the poles that go from rotating to stationary (http://www.platinumstages.com). You don't have to buy a lot...but on the main stage, it would be great! That way, the dancers who are great in pole tricks could lock it, and the dancers that are newbies and don't really know the art of pole-tricking (heh) could all look good up there.

    (5) TV's in the dressing room makes the dancers lazy! That sounds like a great point.
    You know...TV's in the club make the club lazy, as well. It would piss me off to no end when I would approach a guy for a dance, and his answer would be "I'm watching the game right now." Go to the fucking bar next door!! Their beer is cheaper and they have food, too! Jack ass. Anyways...if you are going to have TV's, I would suggest playing that cool "new age" stuff...where it's only colors that morph onto the screen and all. Anything that plays the actual TV just distracts the guys from the dancers. They won't notice that there's no movie on...they came there to see naked women!!

    (6) Appreciating the dancers - Appreciation is earned and it is a two-way street. To add to your point...I want to earn their appreciation as well.
    I appreciated my manager. I love him...he was great! He was always looking out for me and he was always around when I needed him. That's what you need to be or find someone to do. A manager that can have both the club's and the dancer's best interest in mind. They go hand in hand.

    This brings us to house fees...tip outs...etc. PERSONALLY, it annoyed me to have to tip out over 1/2 of my earnings. Yeah, I came home with $500+, but it really sucks when I earned a little over $1,000, but after tipping out everyone and their mother...that's just wrong. I don't mind tipping out the DJ and tipping out the floor guys. But, at my club, you tipped the DJ, you tipped the floor guys 25% and the Champagne Lounge guy (if you went up there) another 20%. The funny money conversion is another 25% (on top of the 10% they charge the customer). Don't be greedy and don't encourage excessive greediness in your club. Greedy people suck.

    By the way, as far as location goes, I'd rather not disclose that right this very moment because I don't want someone else to swindle it from beneath me. Additionally, this plan is still in the early stages. I have tax planning, market research, etc. pouring out of my ears! Damn I need a private dance! When the plan comes to fruition, I assure you that you will all be welcome to come visit or stay.
    Well, if you hire the girls from SW...damn...you'd have a rockin' club!!

    Oh, I wanted to add...if you have the dancer's who are next on stage put onto the TV (get one in the dressing room), that would make it so much easier!! I danced with several other girls who's stage named kinda sounded like mine, and when we all worked the same night, we would all be running up to the stage wondering who the hell the DJ really called. LOL So, if you had a TV that had the dancer's "line-up", say for the next 3 dancers...there would be no question as to who would be next.

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    I really think the spinning poles are a good idea, because it makes pole tricks look a 100% better. I also think a nice dressing room is very important, people sometimes forget how hard these ladies are working out there, so it would be nice if they had a nice place they could get away for a few minutes.

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    Sounds like you've got a good handle on things! There are some things in your description that sound a little too good, and here's what I mean.

    Any strip club owner knows that their paycheck comes from the customers. Drinks, food, etc. A stripper (at least in Texas) keeps 90% of what she makes. Keeping a customer happy sometimes means doing something a dancer doesn't want.

    For instance: if every stripper gets to pick whatever music they want, without censor, customers might have something to say about it. In my experience, if dancers were given total music power, it became a kind of war between music genres. The same for the TV's in the dressing rooms: instead of dancers out on the floor with the customers, you have dancers in the dressing rooms fighting over what station to put the TV on. There have also been clubs in my area that once had dress codes, but had to dissolve them in order to bring more customers in.

    Also, you asked if strippers would take advantage of things? The simple answer is yes. There will always be a dancer or two (or ten) that will take advantage of anything that is put in front of them. Even to the point of developing a drug habit they might not have before, because they know someone who will pay for their rehab. I'm not trying to sound cynical, I just want you to know where your money will be coming from, and where your money potentially could be going. Also, beware the stripper calling you every twenty minutes to update you on her fight with this other dancer who "totally looked at her the wrong way and sat in her chair."

    That being said, I really do appreciate your designing a club with the dancers in mind. It's a really noble thing to do, and something that no one does enough. I love the idea of sprung flooring and a couple of rotating poles.

    Something else that would be great is better wiring to the dressing rooms. I've worked in too many clubs where a hair dryer blew the whole fuse out.

    I also like the suggestion about an up-to-date website with e-mails and the like.

    Just keep in mind when you start your club that there will be a conflict between what customers want and what dancers want. Find a good balance, and don't sacrifice our security!
    "This above all: to thine own self be true."

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    Default Re: What would dancers like?

    Everything sounds very intruiguing about your new club proposals,my curiosity is at it's peak for the location of the place.

    I agree with everything others have said.Can't tell you about the rotating pole though,I've never worked with it,never even seen one.A lot of the clubs I'be worked/been to didn't even have them.
    To me personally the best benefit that you could offer to the dancers would be health insurance for the obvious reasons.I can't think of many clubs that offer that but we really need it.
    Good luck,I hope it works out for you!

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    i have always used stationary poles, and when i tried to use a spinning one, i nearly killed myself. those things are really hard for me to use. maybe have that on a side stage. wood is great for a stage, but not for the flooring that the customers will use. i was on a carpeted stage once and it was aweful!

    also if your going to allow floor work in your club consider something softer than burbur carpet, that stuff would give me major rug burn in the vip areas.

    personally i never have liked house moms, i prefer to take care of myself. our club doesnt have one and once a month the managemnt stocks it with hairspray, tampons, small candies, tylenol, etc.

    i worked at a club once that had a tanning bed in the dressing room, and if you were on schedual 4 nights or more a week you were allowed to use it free of charge whenever you wanted to.

    id like to come work for you too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusGoddess
    Sorry...I have to be the nay-sayer here. Hardwood floors? Fugget about it. Get carpet. The club will be dark, so no one will really see the stains that come with the territory, but if someone spilled something (anything) on the floor, and a dancer comes walking by...ouchie. In fact, ANYBODY falling on the hardwood because of water/drinks/etc would make your club ripe for plucking.
    It sounds like you're referring to the pedestrian floors. I think Amadeus was referring to the stage flooring. Though hardwood pedestrian floors would be awesome if we wanted our customers on roller skates!

    Actually, you should get the poles that go from rotating to stationary . . .
    What a great idea . . . the best of both worlds!

    You know...TV's in the club make the club lazy, as well. It would piss me off to no end when I would approach a guy for a dance, and his answer would be "I'm watching the game right now." . . . Anything that plays the actual TV just distracts the guys from the dancers. They won't notice that there's no movie on...they came there to see naked women!!
    Interesting point. We'd always assumed we'd have TVs. (When I say "we," I mean amadeus and I. I'm a friend and associate of his on this here project.) Clubs that we've been to sometimes have full-fledged porno on, which we both find to be pretty lame. We thought sports or something would be more tasteful.

    Have you worked in clubs without any TVs, or with ones that only show the colory things you mentioned? What's been your experience about being able to keep customers' attention for long periods of time? We want them to stay in the club as long as possible. (And so do you! ) But it sounds like maybe we don't need TVs to do that . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss. Kristina Lee

    i worked at a club once that had a tanning bed in the dressing room
    ooh me too! i forgot about that one
    thats a good one

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    I have worked in clubs without tvs and I actually prefer it, the customers come to see the girls, not the tv, making it easier to sell a lap dance. Another idea for the dressing room: make sure to have enough seats for all the dancers that will be working on a shift, it gets really annoying when the dressing room is cramped and everyone is fighting for counter space. Also, I don't know if you're going to have it so there's tipping on stage or the girls do a tip walk afterwards, but for the love of god, have two poles, one at each end so the dancers can have somewhere to walk to on stage, and make the stage wide enough so that dancers can do floor work without falling off. It's also cool if the poles are at least 8-10 feet tall so there's somewhere to climb, and don't buy a powder coated one, I worked at a club that had one, and it HURTS!

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    Some of my favorite things I've encountered:

    1) a housemom that has hair/makeup/beauty supplies (I love the idea of her being a seamstress too)

    2) tanning beds (housemom kept appts. so there was no fussing over usage)

    3) Gym Memberships or Discounts (alot of gyms will give you an employee rate)

    4) a boutique clothing shop in the club w/ dresswear/shoes/latex, etc. (also a great revenue generator for you!)

    5) Managers that DON'T expect tipouts for themselves (ok for DJ, housemom, etc.)!

    6) No dickhead managers trying to sleep with or pimp out all the dancers

    7) ZERO TOLERANCE policy on drugs and "extras"

    As far as the other things mentioned...

    I have been in a couple of clubs with TV's but the bar was quite seperated from the main stage area (almost an entity of its own). The idea was that it kept guys in the club longer when important games, etc. were on and they wanted a bite to eat. Then they would go into the dance area to have fun. Made sense and it worked well.

    As far as employee benefits, I would recommend offering something contigent upon a 3 or 6 month full-time employment. Many girls will try out dancing in a club and never come back. There's also the clubhoppers. You really don't want to hassle with all the paperwork for someone who only comes in once a month or so. I think the idea of basic health coverage is better than offering "paid rehab". I know I would want some sort of anonymity if I had a problem and maybe I didn't want my employer to know about it. The dancer would have to pay arrears out of pocket though since there is no wage -- you could have the option that they sign up for coverage and it is added to their house fee, possibly. If you want to get fancy, you could offer tuition reimbursement, something very appealing since so many dancers are college students.

    Also, as an owner, I would visit your club on a strictly professional, but friendly manner. I wouldn't recommend get dances or developing favorites. I would visit often, make your presence known, but not micro-manage your staff.

    ....just a few ideas
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    I think having a few tvs by the bar is a good idea, it has never been a problem for me in getting dances. I think it makes guys feel comfortable and linger longer. Basic health insurance would be awesome! I would even split the cost with the employer if it were reasonable. Comfortable couches for lap dances are key to having the customer buy more dances. Even better if there is a sense of privacy, as long as security is not jeopordized. Also, please don't make your dancer's sell cheasy club merchandise. Nobody wants to buy it, and it really wastes the dancer's time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Court Vision
    It sounds like you're referring to the pedestrian floors. I think Amadeus was referring to the stage flooring. Though hardwood pedestrian floors would be awesome if we wanted our customers on roller skates!
    Ahhh...hardwood floors on the stage would be fine...just make sure you keep them up!! Getting a big splinter from the stage is a bitch!!


    Interesting point. We'd always assumed we'd have TVs. (When I say "we," I mean amadeus and I. I'm a friend and associate of his on this here project.) Clubs that we've been to sometimes have full-fledged porno on, which we both find to be pretty lame. We thought sports or something would be more tasteful.

    Have you worked in clubs without any TVs, or with ones that only show the colory things you mentioned? What's been your experience about being able to keep customers' attention for long periods of time? We want them to stay in the club as long as possible. (And so do you! ) But it sounds like maybe we don't need TVs to do that . . .
    One of the clubs I worked in had NO TV's. The guys pay more attention to the girls on the stage. Of course, this was the run-down club and they didn't have a bar either (full nude) but, I never ran into the "watching the game" or "lip-reading this show" problem.

    Now, at my upscale club, they had TV's all over the place. The bar was right behind the stage and had 3 TV's. It was very distracting for the customers. It was annoying for me. If you are going to have an actual bar in the club, then put the bar in it's own "housing" and have the club attached to it. The guys that just want to sit and nurse a beer while eating stale peanuts and watching the game could do just that and when they're done they can either leave or hit the SC.

    Oh, and don't ruin your club by doing 2-4-1's all night. And, don't make it mandatory. Do it here and there to get the crowd spending, but I cannot tell you how many times I've had to interrupt my dancing to go do the mandatory 2-4-1...I'd be on a roll, on my 5th or 6th dance with the same guy...and 2-4-1 would be called...or the cattle call would commence. It's very annoying.

    Do not give out "free dance" cards to people to get them to come in. It's my time and I never give free dances. Give them a discount on admission, but don't expect the dancers to give up their money...and the same goes for dancing for your friends. Myself and a few dancers danced our asses off for this group of guys who was a friend of the owners (at my HITW club) pretty much half the night. At $20 a dance, we were thinking we'd make some good money...especially since we weren't dancing for anyone else. At the end of that session, our manager came out and told us that he'd give us our housefee for free (which was $60). That pissed me off.

    Don't be afraid to help out the dancers. Especially the ones who are uber-dependable. One time I was dancing at work and got an emergency phone call. I had to leave the club to go take care of the emergency, but after I took care of it (about 3 hours) I went back to work. My manager that night waived my housefee when he heard about what happened. Not just because of the emergency, but because I came back to work. I ended up making MAJOR bank that night and so the club still made a lot of money. This doesn't mean doing this for every girl who says there is an emergency, but having my manager do that for me one time (at my upscale club) really made a difference in my attitude for that night and more willing to go into work when he asked me.

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    Oh my...I want to work in your club...the stage flooring about did it for me...I get so tired of the bruised and swollen knees...that is a fabulous idea...Showers in the dressing room are a must have...especially if you have specialty shows(example: baby oil shows, ice cream shows, etc). Also a rotating pole is the only way to go, if you want exceptional pole tricks. Free tampons...come on...nice but unnecessary...every dancer knows to throw a handful in their bag...our club own...lets just say hes to cheap to make sure we have toilet paper...As far as a drug free club...when you have your girls hired you let them know that drug use in the club is not acceptable, anyone caught using before work or bringing drugs into your club with be terminated and/or arrested without warning. Thats the one thing that keeps me at the club at im...i dont want to be around drugs, especially at work. Insurance and 401K is a wonderful but a very expensive idea. Good luck with your club!!!
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    Venus - I just wanted to address one point of yours briefly (I've got to run so I'll get to the rest later)...we had considered giving free dance vouchers but we'd always assumed that the girl could just redeem them with us and we'd pay her. I believe in getting paid for what you do. It fosters respect.

    Thanks for your comments Venus.

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    Court Vision!!! (But can you shoot from downtown!?)

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