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    242_fair
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    Hi girls,

    What would you do if a customer had refused to pay for $300 of dances he'd gotten from you, but you know his whole name and hometown and you managed to snap a picture of him before he left the club??

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    forget about it, the effort isn't worth the 300 bucks. If he walked out on you IN PERSON what makes you think any measures you take from here on in will win you back the cash?

    Put up the picture in the dressing room and say "never dance for this man"

    OH AND BTW THAT SUCKS! I had a guy walk out on me that owed me 400 and had plenty of cash in his pocket. The asshole manager let him walk out even though i had witnesses. Needless to say i didn't work there for too much longer by choice!
    (but on the other hand had a reg at the end of the night throw me an extra 400 to make up for it) even though i said i didnt want it.

    So everyone told me to start collecting up front. Bad choice because it only meant diminishing returns and i felt like customers thought i was scamming. It has only happened one time in my dancing experience and i will take that risk. Besides now i work with a 300 pound bouncer that is ready to throw down! (and will for me no problem)

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    It sucks but its a chance you take... I never collect up front but always collect after every $100 (5 dances) ... my opinion is if a guy thinks this is rude than too bad...

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    Make a little voodoo doll and stick lots of black pins in it, then hang it up in the dressing room for all to see (-:
    Made one at my last club with a little sign that said "bad customer" it boosted morale for a while, lol.

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    Well it would really depend how spiteful I was feeling I might send him a bill in the mail addressed to the Mrs instead of him, or I might just show up where he worked (if possible) dressed in work clothing, and whenever anyone asked me what I was doing I would tell them I am waiting for him to pay for the lap dances received Well, okay I probably wouldn't do any of that but I would definatly be tempted
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    Quote Originally Posted by 242_fair
    but you know his whole name and hometown and you managed to snap a picture of him before he left the club??
    Its a dispute,both sides thinking they are right.

    What your talking about doing could possibly ruin that man,family,friends,and job.

    and chances are,you still wont get your 300 bucks.


    just let it go,post his pic in the dressing room if you must,but dont spend anymore time on it.

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    Alexis I totally agree with you on that one, I would be tempted to do something spiteful in the end like sending something to the misses, I am sure she would not be too thrilled in the end. But still the best thing to do would probably let it go and warn the other girls working to not waste their time on that guy.

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    Why would you let someone...anyone...rack up $300 in dances before collecting? Who cares if they "have the money"?? Collect every few dances and the most you would be out would be a few dances. Never, ever allow anyone to rack up dances like that. Never.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudreyLeigh
    It sucks but its a chance you take... I never collect up front but always collect after every $100 (5 dances) ... my opinion is if a guy thinks this is rude than too bad...
    I do this as well... And ALWAYS ask, "are you sure you have enough? We can take a quick break while you check.." I'd rather lose the 20 on the break song than any more than that.
    But then hind sight always looks better, doesn't it?
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    At this point, go after him full force, but as Venus said, collect after 3-4 dances from now on.

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    I say take it to court.

    If you have the dances on tape, then you obviously have proof that he did them. Not to mention your witnesses, you should be good.

    First though, contact him and tell him he still owes you the money and if you do not get it; then you will take him to court.
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    lol

    who spends thousands of dollars,and alot of time in court,just to win 300 dollars???

    Your going to be hard pressed to find a lawyer who will take this case.

    Most will laugh at you,or want ass as payment for a case they dont have time for.

    Whats it going to prove anyways???

    But best of luck if thats your plan.

    I would write it off,plan for it happening again in the future,only next time it wont be for hundreds of dollars if you follow some of the sane advice given by others about collecting every so often,or at the start.

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    BTW...

    The cameras and tapes are NOT for your protection,they are to protect the club,thats it.(and they are to protect the clubs from the DANCERS,NOT the custies for the most part.)
    Pray they dont start letting the tapes out the door for every petty dispute.

    You think its hard to sell a lapdance now,wait till the general population of custies find out the tapes can be seen outside the clubs IN COURT just because a dancer got jilted.

    You think the bible thumpers got a hard on for us now,wait till they actually see thier hubbies and business leaders getting a full contact lapdance on VHS!!!

    LOL!!!!
    Shit will hit the fan for sure then!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kitana
    I say take it to court.

    If you have the dances on tape, then you obviously have proof that he did them. Not to mention your witnesses, you should be good.

    First though, contact him and tell him he still owes you the money and if you do not get it; then you will take him to court.
    Would never work. She would have to PROVE that he didn't pay her. And, unless they have cameras in every single corner of the club where you can see each and every movement, the burden is on her to prove he didn't pay. She would LOSE in court and then be out of court costs (his and hers). There is no police report...you have pictures...but so what? Pictures only prove he was there...not that he never paid.

    There is absolutely nothing you can do. Nothing. Let it go and move on. Just learn the lesson of never giving $300 worth of dances, for any reason, without collecting after every couple of songs.

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    Why not small claims court? I think if he fails to appear he looses by default. At least the threat of same may be enough to get him to settle up. Cheaper and less embarrassing then checking with his lawyer



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    What was his reason for not paying? Was club management present? Was he confronted by them?

    How old is this person? Does he live in a small town where everyone knows everyone else, and where a little shame may cause him to pay up?

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    Go get him girl! Private dancers have to play "repo girl" occasionally. I could tell you some funny stories.

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    Well his excuse was that he 'thought it was free'. Basically it was 15 songs and I kept telling him as we went that it was sucha and such ammount of dances = so and so total price so far, shall I contunue? the really sad part was that he was one of those customers who is nice and interesting and we had a good hour together, but then on the last song he like put his hand on his lap with the palm up and when I say back down on him he was deliberately touching my hooch and I slapped his hand but really not hard at all!! I was just like 'oh you bad boy' and then he got all mad and he was like 'we're done now, go get the waitress' and then she came to get his credit card but then he's like 'I'm not paying her anything, I thought that was free' and my manager let him bounce ;-(

    But luckily for me I had my camera phone and I got a reasonably clear photo of the dude and the waitress gave me his proper name from his credit card.

    I like the idea of putting the picture of him in the dressing room. I'm going to wait and decide if I'll do anything else about it, see how mad I am in a week.

    Ps yes my manager is a jerk and I know I need to find a new club, thanks for reading and your thoughts.

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    As a soon-to-be attorney (an no this is NOT legal advice), I happen to know that small claims court can be a very inexpensive and quick process. In my jurisdiction, you can simply go to the county government's website, find the appropriate court, and download the papers that need to be filed. In my state, it is only about two or three pages and the filing fees are about $35. The winner of the case pays the costs (if you win, you'd get what he owes you plus the $35). In my state, no lawyers are even allowed at the hearing, but if you wanted to hire one to help you prepare you could do so (though this is costly and I'll leave to your better judgment whether it is even necessary as I am certainly not going to ever recommend to anyone to not get a lawyer lest the state bar association reign down its fury on me).

    I would highly encourage you to enforce your rights. You were robbed. He stole from you plain and simple. It is in no way different than if he had broken into your car and took your stereo.

    Again, small claims should be very fast and easy and you would feel much better about yourself if you didn't let yourself get walked on.

    Good luck and I'm sorry to hear that you were the victim of a dirt bag.

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