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    Um - does this truly work? Like you just walk up to a girl and say "he's too demanding for me" leaving the "but I know you're a dirty skank so you won't mind" implied and she says okay, and scampers over happily to do your work and lets you make money? The other girls are just alright with this? And the customer just keeps getting both of you, although you're sitting in a corner doing nothing? It never occurs to him to think that "Hey. The "extras" whatever they may be are important enough that I will not invest in a VIP with this young lady who doesn't do them, no matter how lovely or charming she is. And I CAN, seemingly, get them from this girl. And I'm paying double because...."

    Hey if it works - power to you. But I don't think it is particularly sensible as a business strategy overall. It seems too counter-intuitive.
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    Default Re: a good way to bank off of extras girls.

    ^^^^^^^^ roflmao!!!!!!

    cmon Jenn,admit it.

    are you saying you dont know who to send "whoever"to the right girls in your club,be it "extras","dommi"or "whatever"??
    You may not cross any lines,but you sure do know what girls dance on that line in your club.

    This girl is just describing a way to make fast money on someone before she sends them in that general direction.

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    Default Re: a good way to bank off of extras girls.

    Quote Originally Posted by aussiepunkshocker
    I have 1 co-worker who is also a prostitute and very open about it. She only does out calls though, not in the club and since I like her as a person I recomend customers talk to her if they're really looking for toy shows or sex. It's no skin off my nose. She enjoys her work, I'm not going to feel bad about recomending her.
    Aussie, you have a healthy, non-judgmental personality, and I totally agree with BigGreenMnM about the center picture. .

    A pimp solicits customers for a ho. Aussie and Christina are simply deferring customer requests to a provider they know.

    I know dancers who get themselves off watching guys they like with other dancers. Sometimes for free, sometimes for money. And it's interesting having another dancer telling your dancer what to do.

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    Default Re: a good way to bank off of extras girls.

    This thread is starting to get WAY out of hand. Please tone it down a bit or I'll be forced to lock the thread and start issuing some warnings. Thanks for your understanding.

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    Default Re: a good way to bank off of extras girls.

    This sounds like pimping.

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    Default Re: a good way to bank off of extras girls.

    I think this plan is a way of keeping them around. Less extras girls, more money and more respect. Customers wont expect them and may want them less when they arent around.

    If there is demand for extras girls ..they will stay. The more time we can hold them off the more time everyone has to make money.

    IMO this is a short fix and customers will come back and expect that same treatment. Not good. Being a 'straight up' dancer wont contribute to the overgrowth of extras girls.

    edit: Im short DO NOT FEED the extras girls.
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    I don't see what the problem is?

    She saying that she passes off her 'demanding' customers to girls who don't mind doing that bit extra (and it doesn't sound like she's talking about hj/bj- probably touching or licking or something), as gets herself in there for a dance as well. What's wrong with that??

    She's not being a pimp (she doesn't get any of the other girls money), she's being an agent. I'll bet there are girls that appreciate the help.

    She's already all but lost the customer when he states he wants extras and she states she doesn't do that- why not get all she can out of it, and spread the wealth while she's at it??

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    Default Re: a good way to bank off of extras girls.

    I don't think it's fair to call extras-girls 'whores' if you are the one who facilitates their interaction with a customer.

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    Default Re: a good way to bank off of extras girls.

    Ok whilst I understand that one does not want to encourage the "extras" girls (in this thread it means touching, licking of the dancer most likely her boobs and/or other parts of her body not including vagina/anus) to stay and thus create customers who look for these girls.....

    I also totally understand that there will always BE "extras" girls in every club no matter how classy or 'upper class' the club seems to be (or portrays itself).... so why not, at least, try to profit off one dance with that customer.

    There is no pimping going on here as the dancer who posted is only profit-ting off the customer not the other dancers. To be a pimp she has to profit off the other dancer not just the customer. She's not really an agent either (once again she's not profit-ing from the other dancer just the customer).... just referring the customer to someone more his taste whilst also trying to profit off the customer herself.

    I'm not endorsing the practice neither am I condemning it. She saw an opportunity, regardless of the greater implications, and took it.
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    Default Re: a good way to bank off of extras girls.

    Actually, technically she does fit the definition of a pimp, because without the other dancer's acts she would not be earning money from that type of customer. So she *is* profiting from the other dancer. Fair enough, it's a personal choice just like it's a personal choice whether to do extras or not, but I don't like the fact that some customers *expect* extras from strippers because of behaviour like that. And, as other people have pointed out, it is illegal and she could get busted for it.

    If you deliberately make money from it, I think you are condoning it, so it's kind of nasty to then slag off the girls whom you personally fetched to perform the 'dirty work'. If you really despise them that much then don't be a hypocrite by facilitating their behaviour!

    I am a firm believer in explaining (because some of them seem to genuinely be ignorant about it) that there is a difference between strippers and prostitutes- and if I wanted to be grinding someone's dick I wouldn't be in a strip club and I would expect a lot more money for it! I always tell the customer to look elsewhere for such things. The phonebook is full of people who do 'extras' legally!

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    Default Re: a good way to bank off of extras girls.

    Quote Originally Posted by BrisbaneEve
    there is a difference between strippers and prostitutes- and if I wanted to be grinding someone's dick I wouldn't be in a strip club and I would expect a lot more money for it!
    Say what? In the strip clubs I go to, girls grind with their cookies for $20 per song. That's what strippers do in contact clubs. It doesn't make them prostitutes.

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    Default Re: a good way to bank off of extras girls.

    Hey Miss Lee has found a nitch that works for her, at her club, at this time...creative if I do say so myself!
    --I agree that it can loose as a strategy in the long run; for guys always seem to go for 'deals' in the end, and she may get him and his friends the next time around!
    --I disagree that she is a 'pimp' (LMAO) silly! She has just found a way of making the best of a bad/annoying situation.
    --I do wonder, as written by a few, how the rules are being bent and if that could get you/your club in trouble with the local law???

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    Default Re: a good way to bank off of extras girls.

    Mmmm! I like that idea! Gurl, youre a sweet hustler.. I dont see anything dirty with her doing that. Its the other chic doing the dirty work. lol. And since dirty chics are f*cking up this business enough.. mine as well, PLAY THEM AS WELL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrisbaneEve
    Actually, technically she does fit the definition of a pimp, because without the other dancer's acts she would not be earning money from that type of customer. So she *is* profiting from the other dancer. And, as other people have pointed out, it is illegal and she could get busted for it.
    Pimp: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pimp

    So woudn't this make most SC your basic pimps then. I think this is going overboard.

    Where is she doing something illegal? She is giving her dance, collecting her money, and also bringing another dancer in to collect money. Hhmmm.... isn't that convenient.... they both give a dance a make a profit. She never said she was in promoting extra's girls. Besides most extra's girls will not "perform" when in the presence of another dancer.

    IMHO ~ she is doing the best she can to promote herself as well as other dancers. I don't care if she thinks they are whores or not, it seems to me she made the best of a situation without making a scene and losing the custy.

    Props to you girl, I hope some of the attitude from this thread didn't put a damper on your usual sweet personality here!
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    no, actually i am enjoying sitting back and reading all this.

    I never thought of it as pimping. If it was pimping i would be getting a huge cut of that cash the dancer would be making of of the guy. thats not the case.

    our club is a no contact club. the extras i am refering to is guys touching the girl, grinding, kissing, maybe a crotch grab, etc. i guess i should have elaborated.

    and yes, some of those girls are whores, and they even admit to it outside of the club, so yes some of them are whores. Is that any concern of mine? no. i dont give a shit. some of you high and mighty girls act as if there arent those sort of girls in your clubs, and i can assure you they are.

    call me whatever you want for trying to make the best of a bad situation. Im damn happy with myself, thanks.

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    Default Re: a good way to bank off of extras girls.

    We all know there are extra girls

    I just honestly don't see how this doesn't backfire on you. You help extras girls to make more money by handing them customers. You encourage customers seeking extras by pointing out the exact girl who will provide them.

    There is no reason I can fathom why you would be invited into this. The guy seeking extras has no use for you. The extras girl has no use for you. You just screwed yourself.

    Ethics aside....from a pure hustling point of view, this is probably the worst way to handle the situation, imo.

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    It doesnt backfire, because im a hustler.

    Is that really such a foreign concept?

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    Default Re: a good way to bank off of extras girls.

    i think this is a good idea, my club is no contact but some girls do it. not hand jobs or anything but they let the guys get a little touchy and they grind the guys .

    its not like you are calling another girl a slut to her face, i mean your actualy hooking her up.

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    She's hustling because she IS getting the dance still and getting paid for it as well as not pissing the custy off or kicking him out thereby losing his money altogether.

    When questioned about extras she just brought in another girl. WOW what a concept, the other girl gets paid for a dance too! The only backfire would be that the particular custy will probably get a dance from the other girl the next time. OR if she's really on top of her game she'll make sure it's more like a threesome than an chance at extra favors.

    HULLLOO? Haven't we all brought been a little flirtier with a female tipping custy to entice the make tippers to start spending????? This is the same thing.
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    the way she is doing it is the worst possible, from a legal viewpoint. i used to take tips from the extras girl and the customer for a hookup, but i didn't sit there and dance while they took care of their personals. it wasn't bright, but it was lower-risk, since i wasn't there while the extras were going on. from a deniability standpoint, it was a slightly better stupid decision to make regarding 'making money off extras girls'.

    i mean, getting a little freaky with a lady custy to get her man to spend is in some respects already in the category of extras. being the beard while an extras girl runs her game and picking up some hangout cash is something i've seen girls do, but the extras girl always gets more money, even though legally the risk is the same if you are both there in the booth or whathaveyou with the customer, essentially.

    i primarily worked in a town where what this girl describes was quite usual, yet the extras girl ALWAYS got more money. but i feel in her case, she is taking on more risk when she could just take tips instead and leave those two to potentially worry about being busted.

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    Default Re: a good way to bank off of extras girls.

    Five or six observations...
    1 - if no sex is going on, then the extras girls ain't whores;
    2 - if there is a sting, you're gonna get stung too, it's your call, though;
    3 - the club and the extras girls know that they can do this and they know who they are, so after the first couple of times of getting drawn in, they know this situation and they accept it;
    4 - to the customer, the second girl is just part of the fantasy that is sold;
    5 - the customer will determine if the deal is acceptable and may or not return for it, it's up to him.

    Finally I see some moralistic comments being thrown in the mix. I don't think there is much room for that in this industry. This was just a tip, take it or leave it, not a general recommendation. To me, with the caveats posted, it is a valid technique for making more money that is OK with her.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGreenMnM
    sorry Aussie,your a long haired pimp from your own confession in your post.


    I would also add that the new pic you have in the center of your sig,should make it into your protfolio,most impressive.
    Thank-you BGM ( and Sports writer too) (-:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss. Kristina Lee
    It doesnt backfire, because im a hustler.

    Is that really such a foreign concept?
    circular argument...makes no sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsWriter2
    Say what? In the strip clubs I go to, girls grind with their cookies for $20 per song. That's what strippers do in contact clubs. It doesn't make them prostitutes.
    Well it's illegal here, and I'm glad, because that's not something I'm comfortable doing for just anyone who pays $20! Besides that, I don't care if it's illegal or not- Miss KL was the one calling them whores! What I was saying is that I encourage customers to take legal avenues for fulfilling that aspect of their pleasure.

    And for whoever said that by my definition of 'pimp' the SCs I work for are pimps: Yeah! They are! I don't see that pimping in itself is necessarily a bad thing. Pimping has a bad name because there are pimps who take advantage of the women who work for them, not because what they do is in and of itself bad!

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    Default Re: a good way to bank off of extras girls.

    Kristina,

    Although I don't think it's such a good idea because legally you are just as culpable as the other girl, I think it's cool and generous of you to share this info on here and try to help us all out.

    Pinky

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