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    Default Giant Squid captured on film in the wild for the first time...

    When a nearly 20-foot long tentacle was hauled aboard his research ship, Tsunemi Kubodera knew he had something big. Then it began sucking on his hands. But what came next excited him most -- hundreds of photos of a purplish-red sea monster doing battle 3,000 feet deep.









    Some info on the Giant Squid...




    Order: Teuthoida (also known as Teuthoida, Tenthoidea)

    Family: Architeuthidae

    Genus & Species: Architeuthis dux

    APPEARANCE

    Architeuthis dux is a large, carnivorous squid with a torpedo-shaped body. They are most definitely the largest invertebrates in the world, with the males reaching up to 25 ft (7.5 m) in length. The females are larger, the longest recorded specimen being 59 ft (17.7 m) in length. It is possible that they can become longer as they are only known by about 200 corpses that have been stranded on beaches, caught in nets, or found in the bellies of sperm whales. During WW2 a crewman on board a British Admiralty trawler claimed to have seen a giant squid 175 ft (52.5 m) in length, the length of the boat. Whether he is telling the truth or not is much debated. The heaviest giant squid ever found weighed 1,980 lbs (880 kg).

    Giant squid have the largest eyes in the animal kingdom, reaching up to 10 in (25 cm) in diameter, or roughly the size of a dinner plate. They have eight arms as thick as a fire hose and studded with two rows of suckers. The two feeding tentacles are thinner and longer and end in a leaf-shaped pad containing four rows of suckers, each sucker being further equipped with pointed hooks. The skin is maroon in colour.

    The mantle, or main body, can reach 9 ft (2.7 m) in length and contains most of the organs. The brain is very large and complex. Giant squid are equipped with a very developed nervous system. The fins are located on either side of the mantle and are very small, used only for balance and maneuverability. The mouth resembles a parrot's beak. The funnel is small and is used to jet propel the squid through the water, as well as aiding in respiration (waster is drawn through siphon and passed through gills), and in squirting an inky-substance known as sepia.

    HABITAT

    Giant squid are thought to live 1000-2000 ft below the water's surface in most of the world's oceans. One of the known homes of the giant squid is the Kaikoara Canyon of New Zealand, although no live specimens have been captured there. Giant squid have been found stranded all over the globe, with at least 25 found in Great Britain and 3 in America. They seem to prefer cold water and will actually suffocate in warm water.

    FOOD

    The giant squid feeds on fish, crustaceans, smaller squid, and perhaps baby sperm whales. To eat, it shoots out its two longer tentacles like a bungee cord and grasps the prey with its two "clubs". The tentacles close over the prey and bring it back to the mouth, where a parrot-like beak chops the meat into small chunks. The tongue then flicks the meat down to the throat and into the stomach, going through the brain on the way down. Too large a chunk of meat and the brain is destroyed.

    BREEDING

    The male giant squid is thought to have very large genitalia that inject spermatophores into the skin of the female's tentacle. The spermatophores then stay in the skin until the female is mature enough to reproduce. The female then lays eggs and the hatchlings are thought to be exact replicas of the adults

    ENEMIES

    The only known enemy of the giant squid is the sperm whale, which has been captured with the remains of giant squid in its stomach. Battle scars found on both live and dead sperm whales are thought to be caused by the suckers from a giant squid.

    Giant squid have been caught and killed in drift nets by fishermen. Although they are so large, they are not sought after by the fishing industry for commercial uses due to the high concentrations of ammonia in their body. They are considered to be nuisances because they consume large amounts of fish. Also, their large nerve axons make them a target of neurological scientists.

    RELATIVES

    Architeuthis dux is the only known species of giant squid. Due to some slight differences between the bodies of different giant squid specimens, there were thought to be at least six different species, with one being called Architeuthis harveyi. However, it is thought that these differences are intra-specific, and while there may be found to be different subspecies, Architeuthis dux is thought to be the only species.
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    Default Re: Giant Squid captured on film in the wild for the first time...

    Craziness.

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    Saw this on another message board yesterday. I definitely wouldn't wanna meet up with that.

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    I saw this yesterday in an email from a squid-obsessed friend. I was thinking about him losing a tentacle on the way home last night....can they regenerate them? I seem to remember reading somewhere that they could. Nifty as hell, though. When I go to the National Aquarium in Baltimore, a great deal of my time is spent standing in front of the Giant Pacific Octopus' tank.
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    Hey, this squid made an appearance of the cover of They Might Be Giants' "Apollo 18" from 1992. But he was worried about the nudity & compromising position with the huge whale so it's kind of obscure. LOL.

    They need to truck this bad boy to the Monterey Bay Aquarium.

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    all i can think of when i see this thing is how good of sushi it would make

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    that was beautiful...
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    I saw the video of that- pretty neato!

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    This is great news. Now let's look for Nessie.

    I'm looking forward to the day when the find the Jules Verne's Nautilus submarine ruins down there.
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    OMG, I was sooo excited about this!!!

    When I was a kid, giant squids were still practically in the realm of cryptozoology...though they did have that really neat diorama of the giant squid fighting the sperm whale at the American Museum of Natural History in NYC where I grew up. It used to scare me. So did the skeleton of the the giant sloth.

    But God, i used to love that museum...if it hadn't been for that museum, I don't think I'd be tormenting myself trying to get my bio degree right now....
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    Nah, this one ie REAL, so we now have evidence for it. The sperm whale apparently is the only creature big enough and with teeth and the appetite to be its natural predator. Though it's possible the squid could beat a small adolescent sperm whale. The great blue whale and the whale shark may also be big enough to tackle one of these huge squishy creatures, but they only eat plants or plankton etc.

    Here are some representations (recognizing that the squid would never come up to the warm ocean surface on its own)...

    http://www.oceanlight.com/lightbox.p...chiteuthis_dux
    http://unmuseum.mus.pa.us/squid.htm
    http://www.birds.cornell.edu/brp/SeaMonsters.html
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    Amazing!!!
    Squids are such cool creatures, I have a list of interesting squid facts somewhere - the only one I can remember though is that at adult squid can be as small as 1/4 of and inch long or X amount of feet long, wow!!!

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    It's not the discovery was (that one fucked up somebody's world, and forced evolutionary biologists to rethink a lot of things), but it is a MAJOR marine biological dynamite breakthrough! This species has been recorded since the time of the Hellenic Greeks if not earlier (Called "the Kraken" by some) and is only NOW really being researched seriously. And now that there's a picture of a live one we have some shit to go on looking for them.

    Some questions:

    Just how big? People have reported squid of over 100 feet long or (sometimes) longer! I once read a story by a WWII navy vet who swore he saw a Squid as long as his Destroyer was. Ancient peoples told stories about the Kraken that was SUPERHUGE, but then they exaggerated things a lot. So just HOW big is this thing? This is the marine biological equivalent, in a way, of the discovery of Illium (Troy)!

    What is it's range? It is a deep water fishy, that we know, but why are most sightings recorded in shallows while ships are docked? Does it breed in shallows? Lay eggs in shallows? Why do so many wash up on beaches if it is such a deep water Squid? See many Sea Pigs, or deep Angler Fish washing up? Something brings them to the surface either pre- or post-death, what? There is evidence that species can range in depth by a LOT, CAN this thing come up to us?

    How active of a predator is this thing? Not that anything needs to concern a human swimming in the water, trust me a Giant Squid isn't coming after you any more than a Great White Shark is coming after you. Don't listen to Peter Benchly (or Stephen Spielberg)... Sharks think you are too scrawny and only bite you by fucking up and thinking you are something else, and not once in the past 2000 years has anyone ever reported a Giant Squid ever attacking a Human. It might look ay you and think "Huh? What the hell is that? Okay, whatever, where's a Tuna to nibble..." Like the movie "Orca" (Jaws ripoff), thius features a Killer Whale all pissed off that some idiot fucked it over in some way (i don't remember how) and goes hunting him down with the intention of eating him. Well, if i (personally) met a killer whale in the wild, i'd be more worried about him/her playing me to death than eating me. Killer Whales are Dolphins. The largest member of the family. Go see the killer whale show at sea world and you are looking at a big Dolphin. 'Killer' Whales get a bad rap. They might look at you as a toy that plays back (even if you aren't really playing, but struggling for air... better hope the Orca gets your point) Sharks get a bad rap. I don't want to see the Giant Squid get the same 'Maneater' rap. Not everything's about us. Lions don't even hunt us unless they are sick/injured/have a toothache because we are too scrawny. But in reality, without any fear of the "Jaws" thing, how actively does this thing hunt?


    Lastly, what does this discovery bring to other sea animals that have *some* evidence for their existance (or continued existance) on record. For example, Carcharodon megalodon. The supershark of fable. Meg only vanished about a million years ago, give or take (and that's nothing, really, an eyeblink), yet there have been sightings of BIG ass sharks, and teeth that were about 10,000 years old (To evolution, again, that's like the time it takes for a fly to flap it's wings)... What about the fabled sea serpant? Can anyone imagine, say, an EEL or something like it that big?


    Niccolina i'd like to hear your reply on this. If you please, certainly not to demand or call you out or anything. I dig biology, and this kinda has me going. Nic, could you maybe compare this to the discovery of the mountain gorilla. I've been doing so. Both mythological creatures confirmed to science at the end/beginning of a century when pretty much every Biology-science superstar has all but pronounced everything said and done. Not quite that, but you may get the pic i am sending. They can be so rigid. I remember reading several quites from scientists PRE-20TH CENTURY that we had expanded science to it's limits and that there is nothing to discover. In some ways i see that weird sentiment echoed today...

    You know what? I think i'd like to hear Jenny's reply to that last point as well. I'd love to hear what she has to say to it all, but that last piont is what tickles me...
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    Okay, well, I'm no squid expert (I tend to deal more with terrestrial vertebrates than marine inverts BUT, I'll do my best.)

    I don't think there have been many near-surface sightings of the "giant squid" in recent years. There were reports from the old mariners of "kraken" attacking boats, but they weren't numerous, and they were probably greatly exaggerated.

    As for its habitat, it generally does seem to stay pretty deep...but the marine biologists at my school who do a lot of acoustic telemetry on fish often find that they hang out at one depth during the day and a different depth at night. Your question about breeding practices is a good one, but if there were large annual gatherings of copulating giant squids in some shallow inlet somewhere, I think we'd know about it.

    Prior to these photographic images, most of the evidence for the existence of these giant cephalopods had come in the form of remains washed up on beaches after storms. The remains had usually reached advanced stages of decomposition by the time they were examined by scientists, so it was difficult to tell how big the creature had actually been, and even what it was. (Some scientists claimed that the remains were just giant chunks of whale blubber.)

    I don't have time for a super-long post right now (I'll try to write more later), but I'll give you some references:

    There was an article in the New York Times Science section sometime within the past year or so that attempted to answer some of your questions.

    There's a GREAT book called "The Encyclopedia of Monsters," that deals with everything from Bigfoot and Werewolves to giant squids, okapi, and the coelacanth. I highly recommend this book--it's lots of fun--but I'm not sure it's in print anymore.

    Google "cryptozoology" (if you haven't already) and see what comes up. I bet there's buzz in that community regarding this recent development.

    Re: megalodon--you know about the deep-sea "megamouth" shark, right? That was a fairly recent discovery, wasn't it?

    Re: The End of Science. There was actually a book with that title that came out within the last decade. The author argued that we're really close to knowing all there is to know. I think it's total crap. Especially in the realm of molecular biology, we're not anywhere near knowing even a fraction of what there is to know.
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    HAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Cryptozoology is something i have googles maybe a million times. LOL! I love this stuff. Living things just kill me.

    Maybe the thing i have googled more has been literally out of this world. The only thing that gets my blood other than terrestrial science is extraterrestrial science!

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    Oh yeah...and I heard an interview on NPR a couple days ago with a squid researcher. You could probably dig it up with a quick search.

    As I recall, he did discuss their feeding behavior....and he also mentioned that Humboldt squids (which are 'jumbo' but not 'giant') are quite aggressive and scary to dive around: "They'll try to strip off your diving gear."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolina
    Oh yeah...and I heard an interview on NPR a couple days ago with a squid researcher. You could probably dig it up with a quick search.

    As I recall, he did discuss their feeding behavior....and he also mentioned that Humboldt squids (which are 'jumbo' but not 'giant') are quite aggressive and scary to dive around: "They'll try to strip off your diving gear."
    Humboldt Squids (something like 6' long) will EAT you! They hunt in packs!

    LOL! I understand that it's dog eat dog out there, I just didn't want people worried about swimming in the ocean over a 30' Squid that 99.9999999% won't touch them outside of a Peter benchly novel.

    When i was in Cozumel i saw a dude with a Humboldt bite, gut said he got it fishing someplace (I don't know a lot of spanish, and oddballwildness on my part is place names in spanish is that, um, i tend to think like all americans...) The dude was a mexican, he spoke too fast for me, and he spoke place names, those will KILL an american trying to 'get' spanish from a mexican since a lot of place names are not in spanish but in some amerindian name that has nothing to do with spanish. SORRY MADMAXINE!!!. This dude's bite was harsh, to say the least. Dude showed me the bite. It looked horrific. Nuff' said.

    Humboldt Squid suck. If Giant Squid was like Humboldt we'd know. By now.
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    Whoa!
    BITE???
    I mean, they don't have teeth!
    They have a keratinized structure called a beak, right? (Sorry, i'm not up on my squid anatomy...)
    How exactly did they manage to "bite" this dude????

    Did you hear about the recent "stranding" of Humboldt squids in southern Orange County, CA?
    Hundreds of dead squid washed up on the beaches there. Freaky! I soooo wanted to go and see it--especially when they announced that they were going to have a public squid necropsy at an aquarium down there.
    If I hadn't been busy with school, I so would've gone....I'm still mad at myself for not going.
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    They have a keratinized structure called a beak, right?
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    lol, CO!

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    Bit the same way parrots bite. No teeth needed. The guy had this awful looking wound that had healed over. Maybe he was full of it, but all i could see was that he had a chunk missing and "a squid bit me" isn't a one liner you see every day.

    You shoulda seen this thing... It was like six inches long just under his ribs. LOOKING at it was one of those things that make you go "OW!"

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    yikes.

    I got bit in the face by a cockatoo once. Right on the lip.

    It hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolina
    yikes.

    I got bit in the face by a cockatoo once. Right on the lip.

    It hurt.
    Yes, and he didn't have any teeth either, did he?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madcap
    They are considered to be nuisances because they consume large amounts of fish.
    Do you think the squids ever get mad that the human species takes out tons of fish a year that never get eaten? Just left to rot?

    The good thing about the giant squids is that they live so far down in the water that they would probably never encounter a human just out for a swim...but could you imagine? I don't know what I would fear more...coming face to face with a great white or a squid...

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