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    Horrible racist DJ: Advice please!!

    So Saturday night I went to Shotguns with some friends and there was one black girl there and she's been in the biz for over 10 years and worked both clubs in my area. Well the fat fuck of a DJ totally screwed her over. He plays this radio talk show shit for like 5 minutes before she got on stage, so everyone cleared the tip rails and went for drinks, to gamble, to talk to other dancers, etc. Then when she gets on the stage he doesn't shut off the shit and makes her stand there for a minute waiting on him. NO ONE is at the stage. So she gets to her second song and it's skipping a bit, and the asshole doesn't even bother trying to do anything, he let it skip the entire song. Now into her third song she has 1 guy at the tip rail and he cut her song short and started playing the live talk show again! I almost yelled at him across the frickin' bar.

    I have seen this lady dance for years, I felt horrible for her. I am so ready to call the manager out there and complain about the DJ. Until that night I had never seen a black dancer here get treated so badly. It seemed very dileberate to me.

    I have danced at this club, not regularly but I know the manager well enough to say something, should I call her?
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    Call the Manager. DJ's are a dime a dozen, apparently.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Hrm Well I am all for stamping out racism...since you were a customer, an ex IC there and being brown myself...I would say something. Do you know if he just doesnt like this one dancer or has he done this before to other girls of color? Just to be clear he didnt do this to any other girls with race not being a factor?

    Before you say something just get the facts straight so if the manager tries to deviate from your truth youre ready.
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    Call the manager. He thinks the show is about him, and that's losing the club money.

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    how do you know hes racist?

    im sure there are other factors involved.

    but i agree, that is shitty.

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    I have seen this DJ before at this club and I'm not sure if it's just this dancer that he doesn't like. He doesn't take his job seriously, any other DJ I know at this club would have:

    1. not continued to play talk show shit when the dancer was obviously waiting to dance.
    2. adjusted the music or moved to a different song if it was continually skipping.
    3. not cut out half of her third song and repeat the talk show shit when obviously that was why there were no custys at the rail.

    My goal in calling would be to make her aware of how her DJ caused the dancer to walk away from the stage with no money and no potential lap dance custy. I would not make it a racial issue with her, because this is the only black girl in the club right now. His job as a DJ is to help remind custys to tip the dancers, not cut out the dancers profits by making her look like a fool. I just don't know that [since I haven't danced there in months] I should make it any of my business. I was a custy that night and I felt like he was doing it to make her look bad.
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    He is a vocal and self-proclaimed skin-head. He did not introduce her or say anything when he cut her third song [ he does for every other girl]. I still will not make it a racial issue with the manager.
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    I dont see how any of this can be called racist???

    I dont see how this is any of your business??

    But just so you know,it sounds like its an issue between the dancer and the dj,if this chit only happened to her,and not the other dancers,i would guess this girl screwed him somehow,and payback is a mutha fucka when you have to work with the dj again.

    Call it divine justice.

    I dont use the talk show thing,I use the Barney Theme,each dj has his own songs to crush a dancers set,and if fucked with,most of us aint afraid to use it.

    And to the male responders to this thread,who aint even in the industry,your wrong.(or you need to stop going to dives and try a mid level or top club)

    It IS the dj's show,each of the entertainers are a component of that show,thats it.
    If she isnt the feature,she is just a part of the show you PAID to get in to see.
    And guess what,if she IS the feature,she is still just a component in the show.

    In most top clubs,the dj runs the rotation and the show,the manager is just there to count the beer bottles at the end of the night and make bank drops.

    As for a dime a dozen,ehhhhhhhhhh hard to disagree with that,i see alot of shit dj's,just not to many in the clubs i would be in.

    Some of us can hit 6 figures a year,cash.

    Dont that just chap your ass???

    lol
    I get to look at naked art all night long,drink if i want,pick the music,and at the end of the night,the girls all pay me(10% of the money you paid them)

    Yea SCdj's are controlling,rude,crude,and stupid to boot,but seems to me,your suffering from SCDJ envy.
    Dont be a hater!

    Most guys would pay to swap jobs with me,can you say the same thing??

    ROFLMAO!!!!!!!

    I really really doubt it!!!!!

    Its no wonder why alot of DJ's are run off from this site from all the dj bashings they take.(as well as assorted support staff)
    Im just glad its usually custies doing it,or prima donnas,so it really doesnt bother me at all.

    But lets take a look at it....

    DJ's are a dime a dozen, apparently
    Would this have flown on this forum if someone had said
    "strippers are a dime a dozen,apparently"


    or better yet...

    He thinks the show is about him, and that's losing the club money.
    what if it was
    "strippers think the show is all about them,and loosing the club money"

    would any of these comments survived on stripperweb without moderators zappin it if we were talking about strippers and not scdj's?????

    The OP is a custie,and most of the posters jumpin on the dj bash wagon are also custies,so who cares??

    Just so everyone else knows(who is actually in the business,or thinking about entering into it)
    MOST SCDJ's that you will be working with will be your friend,have alot of respect for you,and really care about you being successful while on his stage,working as a component in his show.Our money depends on YOU!
    I know alot of clubs full of girls who would rather fight ya then let you take the dj they love working with.

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    roflmao!!!!!!!

    This industry IS racist!!!!!
    Ask any veteran woc entertainer!!

    let me ask you this...

    If the club has only 1 woc on staff,and the dj is a skinhead,and the club is called "shotguns"

    Do you think its possible the manager might laugh at you when you do call and file a racist complaint???

    Im sure if you got to call the owner,who hired the manager,who hired the skinhead dj,and only 1 woc on rotation,he would also laugh at you.

    The point is,you dont know what your talking about and calling the club for any reason can cost this dancer her job.
    She doesnt want your help,dont fuck up what she has going on.
    She is a big girl and doesnt need you to fight her battles for her.

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    It IS the dj's show,each of the entertainers are a component of that show,thats it.
    No customer ever has ever gone to a strip club because of the DJ and no one ever will.

    The OP is a custie
    Actually, she's a dancer who visited the club as a customer on her day off.

    The point is,you dont know what your talking about and calling the club for any reason can cost this dancer her job.
    Actually, considering that you weren't there, don't know any of the people involved, don't know anything but what she's told you, and don't even know what the name of the club she's talking about really is, perhaps she's not the one who doesn't know what they're talking about.

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    Thanks dlabtot for your support.

    BigGreenMNM. Did you notice I said that if I called I would not make the issue about race. I know the owner and the manger very well and they don't like to have staff that help them to LOSE business. The particular DJ is a fill-in DJ at the club and should not be trying to help a dancer to not make money for the house while he's on shift.
    You make a very small point in saying the DJ runs the club; that is why I posted this thread and requested advice. Because a DJ that acts like that can make or break a dancer's money.
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    Its the Dj's show????LMAO!!! Okay, so when the DJ calls out, or there's no DJ for some reason, I bet the manager pops on a friggin cd doesn't he, the show goes on!!! However, if no dancers show up...................hmmm. DJ's and dancers will not always get along, its the nature of the biz. Phedre was there, we weren't! Phedre, I would ask the particular lady what happened, before causing a stir. However, as a customer at times, I'd rather not be subjected to the DJ's retaliative behavoir via phuckin up my tunes!
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    Big Green MM- sadly, strippers ARE a dime a dozen, that's why we have to work so hard.

    If I saw a DJ singling out any dancer for onstage abuse, I would say something- it looks sh*tty and unprofessional to customers. I would feel the same about unprofessional behavior at a restaurant, mechanic's garage or retail shop, as if my DOLLARS and TIME are not being taken seriously.

    The show IS all about the strippers- to quote the first DJ I worked with: "I need a girl onstage as soon as the last girl finishes her set, because an empty stage makes guys look at their watches and put down their beers...."
    The main reason this DJ should get fired is that he's not doing his job- to make the club money, just like the dancers and bartenders do.

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    Just a thought phedre but maybe he is acting this way because she does not tip him out according? On another note biggreen had to make it all about him. This is probably what that djs problem is. Oh and biggreen I have been in tne business 10 years havent gone on stage in around 5 and am the top girl in my club. I bet you think its because of you right. There are clubs without djs and most white collar customers I deal with say they would prefer the club without some loud mouth dj trying to hear his voice all night and playing the music 10 times too loud. They come to see us period I have never heard someone say they come for the dj unless its his wanna be friend. Without us you wouldnt exist.

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    She may be on the no tip list.

    It's the DJ'S way of getting his own "tip out karma".

    I would stay out of it unless it affects you personally. If he is racist and unprofessional enough girls he has done this to will get fed up and go to management.

    On another note, you can always tell who tips out well. Next time you work , listen to the DJ Intro for the girl, the light show, music, and comments of entertainers on stage. A DJ can convince an audience the average looking girl is a top notch entertainer and the Barbi dancer is not as good as the average girl. Your billboard is stage, music,lighting, and your show. The DJ knows this.

    Ever see a gorgeous dancer go up to - Neal Diamond- Coming to America?The DJ announced it was "her first day in America".Everyone goes WTF? She was mortified and any negative reaction on stage would set the money she made the rest of the night. We all knew she must have Stiffed the DJ too often.

    Everyone works here for the money, and yes, even entertainers have to buy friends and love too in the club when it comes to DJ, Waitresses, Valet, managers, and house mom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phedre

    You make a very small point in saying the DJ runs the club; that is why I posted this thread and requested advice. Because a DJ that acts like that can make or break a dancer's money.
    Its a small point depending on the club,in many clubs,they run the whole show,the rotation,AND do the schedule.
    Not guys you want to piss off.
    We agree,a dj who knows what they are doing can ruin a dancer,and it doesnt even have to be as something as silly as playing tv theme songs,it can be done where nobdy can even see it,im not saying its right,im saying its possible.

    Walk out and dont tip your dj for a week,dont wonder why your money is hurting the next week.Its the screwing you get for the screwing you gave.(not you,dancers in general)

    Im not trying to start a flame war about this,and im sure not trying to stop male custies from using dj bashing as a dancer/custie bonding moment,but just know this ladies,most of the guys banging it out in mid to top clubs are NOT assholes,they are there to make you money,and they do.
    If you fuck them,or act like they are shit in your book,they can and will fuck with your hustle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGreenMnM
    Its a small point depending on the club,in many clubs,they run the whole show,the rotation,AND do the schedule.
    wow never seen that before, thank god.
    my dj's arent even allowed to switch girls around on the list, unless of course we are in vip or champ. then it's just the next girl down. MAKE THE SCHEDULE. WOW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustJayda
    Its the Dj's show????LMAO!!!
    Well yes it is.

    Maybe you thought i said it was "about"him,then i also would be thinking it was a joke.
    Okay, so when the DJ calls out, or there's no DJ for some reason,I bet the manager pops on a friggin cd doesn't he, the show goes on!!!
    Well,again,it depends on the club.A top club and most mid level clubs wouldnt run a night without a dj and one would be called in.The manager cant take the time out and be restricted to the booth all night.
    In most cases,it would cost the dj his job if they called in at the last second.

    If your in a dive and they toss on a cd,i guess it really doesnt matter anyways and not worth discussing imo.(unless of course,your looking for reasons why money sucks,i would point to the jukebox or the bartender/manager tossing on thier fav cd's.

    However, if no dancers show up...................hmmm.
    I dont agree.

    How many people have seen a top club where no girls showed up???

    For every guy hawkin my job,strippers have 100 girls waiting for thier spot to open up.
    Dont show up and the phones start ringing to replace you,easy.

    Run an ad in the paper for strippers,100 girls answer it,call for experienced scdj's,1-2 guys with 2 turntables and a microphone show up to audition.

    I only know this because i have done both,in many clubs,in many states.

    I can replace a good dancer 100 times faster then i can replace a good scdj.

    DJ's and dancers will not always get along, its the nature of the biz.
    I agree.
    but if 1 dancer out of the 30 working dont like the dj,it doesnt make him an asshole if 29 really like him.



    Phedre, I would ask the particular lady what happened, before causing a stir.
    Im ok with this advice sorta.

    I dont think its her business at all and is between the dancer and the dj to work out,so they can work together in the future without the OP being there to protect her or fight her battles.
    At least with your advice,the dancers thoughts are at least asked about.

    My advice would be to drop it,this girl has to handle her own.

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    ^^^ lol... god forbid someone should criticize a DJ for doing a crappy job.... after all, it all revolves around him, he's the one irreplaceable person in the club....

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    Talk to her first. She might get more upset if you go tell w/o asking her about it. The club might even act like she put you up to it! And get on her case about "involving customers". Or she might just be rude and just be ungrateful about you "getting all in her business".

    That club sounds shady, in general. Are there any black customers?

    But I doubt the DJ is racist. Not all skinheads are racist, first. I knew a Blond Nordic guy who was a self-proclaimed skinhead and was definitely without question not racist. There's a counter-culture. Plus I've never heard of a fat skinhead, although I may be wrong. Besides that, call me naive but that sounds way too coincidental. The seemingly racist guy...low and behold, a skinhead! And I've seen racist skinheads so I know they do exist, this just sounds too conspiracy-like.

    I think if he were racist, or if the club were, it would have been way worse. Like playing Dixie, Dueling Banjos, or something like that. And boo, get off the stage. That just sounds like she and the DJ for whatever reason don't get along right now.

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    dude,the op didnt say he was doing a shitty job,she said he was dogging one girl,even she didnt know why.
    A few other custies jumped right in with the dj bashing,it must have been the fucking dj's fault right??
    Oh pa-leeese,toss money for brownie points,not dj stereotype insults.

    From the OP,this guy could be an awsome dj,we dont know.( and if its just one girl giving her opinion,its still questionable IMO)
    If a custie tells me the dj sucks,oh yea,im going to belive him and have him replaced.LOL
    NOT!!!!!!

    Instead of jumping on the bash wagon with custies who really dont know much about it,other then what they have been told,or what they see us talking about here on the web,I suggested an explination as to why he might be doing it.

    Im also saying its none of her business,and its not.
    An off duty dancer comming between a dj and a girl is about as silly as a custie comming between a dancer and the dj.
    Do that in many clubs and both will be outside in the parking lot looking in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phedre
    He is a vocal and self-proclaimed skin-head. He did not introduce her or say anything when he cut her third song [ he does for every other girl]. I still will not make it a racial issue with the manager.
    Did some people miss this?
    You should fuck with him and bring in some original skinhead music to dance to. (Nazi skins tend to be refurred to as boneheads by non-racist punks n skins - the whole skinhead thing has Jamaican roots!)

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    To the OP (Egotistical DJ drama aside) - if the DJ is racist, SHE'LL know and SHE'LL handle it in the way she sees fit. Sounds more like a tip-out issue to me, not saying it's not any less retarded, but probably not racist.


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    It is discrimination which is against the law no matter if you are an independent contractor or a regular hourly employee, and someone needs to take this DJ and smack his ass into shape, and the manager needs to be told (very curtly) that he is opening himself up to a lawsuit by having such a dumbass DJ doing shit like that. If I were that girl I'd sue the club in a heart beat. It should not matter what color ANYONE is.. and if this DJ has done this shit before, he needs his ass fired. I have a very low tolerance for this shit... very low..

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    Everyone has the freedom to express themselves and to have their own opinions, however when lines become crossed (and I have seen it in this business such as discrimination based upon race, religion and sexual orientation) it is not something to take lightly...

    However, I hear all of you asking the question about sexual harassment.. which is something that everyone laughs about in a strip club.. BUT.. the dancers are fully aware of their customer's and the possible reactions behaviors etc.. However, their co workers, managers, DJ's bouncers, waitors, waitresses etc.. should all be adhering to sexual harrassment policies and anti discrimination policies.. no matter what and handling customers who cross the line. ALL companies these days have manuals addressing these issues..

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmaxine
    If I saw a DJ singling out any dancer for onstage abuse, I would say something- it looks sh*tty and unprofessional to customers. I would feel the same about unprofessional behavior at a restaurant, mechanic's garage or retail shop, as if my DOLLARS and TIME are not being taken seriously.

    The show IS all about the strippers- to quote the first DJ I worked with: "I need a girl onstage as soon as the last girl finishes her set, because an empty stage makes guys look at their watches and put down their beers...."
    The main reason this DJ should get fired is that he's not doing his job- to make the club money, just like the dancers and bartenders do.
    MnM, madmaxine said it all. You can tell people that the industry is racist, that you would crush a dancer's set if she messed with you, and customers should mind their own business, but customers are the ultimate source of money.

    Like many guys, I go to a club to chill and have fun. If I see anything I don't like, I'll say something to the manager. If people keep quiet, nothing changes. I'm definitely not a top spender, but the managers and owners I know listen to constructive comments.

    In my favorite clubs, the DJs announce the dancers, play the music, and make timely comments to keep the money flowing. I don't care if they look like early Meatloaf or Joe Torre, because they're mostly out of view. If a favorite dancer says something like, "He really helped me with my music," I'll give her money to tip him the next time she checks in for her set.

    MnM, I'm not DJ bashing. I respect any DJ who can find the music that works for a dancer. He runs the music part of the show (and you apparently run more than a typical DJ), but the show is not about him. Nor should the show be about any one dancer.

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