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    MYOB

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    I *promise* no matter even if you talk to the stripper in question, or think you know the DJ and what he's about, you have no idea what is really going on. Even if he tells you he's a racist and hates <insert ethnic group here> that does not mean what you witnessed was race-related.

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    ^^^ gee as a customer, it is your business whether the place is fun to be in or a drag because some egotistical DJ thinks his issues with a dancer are more important than your good time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlabtot
    No customer ever has ever gone to a strip club because of the DJ and no one ever will.
    Correct. Although I've actually seen a few customers leave a strip club because of the DJ's antics.

    That point aside, and while I can't condone the DJ's behavior, I can't tell if anything the OP is describing is neccesarily "racist". The customers could have vacated the tiprail for a variety of reasons.
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    Again,your looking at this from the outside DL,do you have any idea what goes on behind the scenes of a club,or just what you see here on the web and from perv alley??

    The thought that a dj's ego can ruin a club for you,full of half naked females,is beyond me.



    This isnt seseme street,its not hooters,and its not walmart where the "custie"is always right.

    Want proof??

    If a dancer says you owe her for 4 lapdances,and you say you only owe her for 3,
    guess who is right,guess who is wrong??
    A dancer tells me you tried to finger her,and you say you didnt.
    Who is right?Who is starting thier car and going home??

    Bet.

    I do want you to enjoy yourself when you go to a club,so im going to give you some free advice.
    Go for the show,relax and have fun with the girls,stay out of the business end of it,regardless of how much you think everyone there just looooves you.
    If your there waiting for the bat signal to go off,so you can jump up and play hero custie,I promise you,you wont have a good time,and will come out looking foolish and played more times then not,by the very girls your trying to impress.

    To owners,managers,dancers,dj's,and support staff,NOTHING sucks like a reg custie who wants to be involved in the dressing room drama,even more so then a dj with an ego.

    Im going to try to give a retarded analogy so you might be able to get my drift....

    If you ask a street cop,what his most hated "call"to go on would be,they wont say "man with a gun",they will say "domestic disputes" hands down.

    Thats what this is in a way,a domestic dispute.

    A family matter,that doesnt involve you(or the ex dancers who happen to be in the crowd next to you).

    Doesnt matter how "reg"you think you may be,or how much money and gifts you shower on the girls,you will always be a custie.
    Until you show your tits on stage in a tBar,or show your scars from protecting the girls who do,your not invited to the family meetings and how we clean our house isnt your business.

    But i will let you in on a lil secret...

    Its the custies the girls need to be protected from in almsot every case,not the dj's.

    The girls outnumber us,a dj who is dogging the girls gets run out on a rail by the dancers.

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    Huzzah! Another let's bash the DJ thread. All that aside, I see nothing even remotely racist about what this guy did. However, if I killed the stage for 5 minutes with random blather, I'd be looking for a new job. And this guy should too. I just fail to see where it's racist, in any way shape or form. "asshole-ist", perhaps. But even on those very very rare occasions where I have played something shitty for a girl on purpose, I never do it to disrupt the flow of the room, or disturb the patrons. While I, of course, have a higher opinion of what I do than most, I would never think anything I had to say/play was more important than keeping the "show" rolling.

    :::rant ahead:::

    While I am at it, though....BigG does bring up an extremely valid point about one thing. How much shit would I get for posting a thread every night entitled "That annoying stripper bitch AGAIN". Because, trust me, I could. I just fail to see the need for all the bashing of co-workers. I am not your typical annoying SCDJ, and for the sake of argument, I shall assume that you all think you aren't the typical annoying stripper. Does that mean one of us is wrong? Nope. Believe me when I say I could fill books with the shady underhanded things girls have tried on me over the years. Be careful where you cast the first stone, folks. Not all of us are fat guys who try to bang every girl and have no idea what we're doing. I am here to make us both money, and try and make you smile in the process. And that's a whole lot harder than we generally get credit for. Can't we all just get along? Sorry for jacking the thread. :::endrant:::
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish
    That point aside, and while I can't condone the DJ's behavior, I can't tell if anything the OP is describing is neccesarily "racist". The customers could have vacated the tiprail for a variety of reasons.

    Yep, all we know for sure is, if the OP account is even close to accurate, he acted like an ass.

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    I'm glad the OP posted about this. I'll never work at Shotgun's. I love Midwestern clubs & people but I would not go out of my way to work at a club where things like this happen....and I feel the OP is being truthful.

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    I've heard other things about Shotgun's that turn me off.
    To be honest, I have worked all over & have rarely seen dancer/DJ drama spill onto the stage. More often, DJs defer to dancers for extra tip-out.
    Big Green, you work & live in the American South, which is a different kind of place than California.....this probably colors your statements, no pun intended.

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    MnM, maybe your comments reflect reality in the Virginia countryside, but not in the clubs I go to.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGreenMnM
    This isnt seseme street,its not hooters,and its not walmart where the "custie"is always right.

    Want proof??

    If a dancer says you owe her for 4 lapdances,and you say you only owe her for 3,
    guess who is right,guess who is wrong??
    A dancer tells me you tried to finger her,and you say you didnt.
    Who is right?Who is starting thier car and going home??

    Bet.
    You'd lose that bet with me. I've never lost in the remarkably few cases a dancer tried to rip me off. One of them even got fired because I was the third customer to complain about her that week.

    Why do you revel in the badness of clubs? It's not that hard to figure out when dumb people are trying to play dumb tricks.


    Quote Originally Posted by BigGreenMnM
    Im going to try to give a retarded analogy so you might be able to get my drift....
    If you ask a street cop,what his most hated "call"to go on would be,they wont say "man with a gun",they will say "domestic disputes" hands down.

    Thats what this is in a way,a domestic dispute.

    A family matter,that doesnt involve you(or the ex dancers who happen to be in the crowd next to you).
    No, what happens in a strip club is NOT a domestic dispute. Strip clubs are public venues subject to additional laws, including those governing the sale of alcohol and adult entertainment.

    In a club I rarely visit, cops recently arrested two bouncers for administering parking lot justice. MYOB doesn't cut it here anymore.
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    I would definitely call the manager and complain about the dj.
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    If there 's one type that gewts under my skin, its the NARCISSIST. I'm not going to name names because I don't have to -- you know several of them already. Don't matter if its club business or a tyrant boss or whatever, I can tell 'em after their first 10 words or when they are within listening distance.

    From: "Toward Self & Sanity: On the Genetic Origins of the Human Character (c) A.M. Benis

    The Narcissistic-Aggressive Type (NA)
    He would synergistically combine the mottos, "I am the most glorious" and "I am the most powerful". Thus, lacking the behavioral complex of perfectionism, his life is ruled by the unbridled ambition of the behavioral complexes of narcissism and aggression. We surmise that these two traits, as expressed separately in the N and A personages, would be found together in this individual.

    The synergistic drives for both power and glory must produce an extroverted, hyperactive individual. Given the pride invested in "I am beautiful" and "I am powerful," one would expect this individual to be domineering, sometimes with an almost megalomanic drive for ambition, in power, glory and sexual domination. This individual lacks concerted perfectionist qualities, hence his search for power and glory is likely to be superficial, spasmodic and lacking in direction.

    When reduced to the subdued state NA- this individual strongly resembles the self-flaunting unaggressive narcissistic personage N. Of course, he "plays the game", and with his hyperactivity and tendency toward "hypersexuality" he would involve himself in many compulsive dependencies, usually as the subjugator but sometimes as the subjugated individual. As is often the case in the dependency of subjugation, he may become overtly sadistic, especially in frustrating and in playing on the emotions of his subjugated companions, of which there may be several at one time. And he too, if opposed, seeks retribution in the self-justified vindictive triumph.

    This individual when frustrated can be incited to a narcissistic rage, an aggressive-vindictive rage, or a combined narcissistic-aggressive rage (NA rage). In the latter, the aggressive-vindictive component usually appears first, followed by the narcissistic rage of withdrawal as the individual leaves, slamming the door behind him.

    Finally, as in all character types, he is liable, when frustrated to a point of relative hopelessness, to enter an abject state of depression. In such a hyperactive individual, with ambition unchecked by the lack of perfectionism, we are drawn to propose that he is in some cases the histrionic, cyclothymic, or hypomanic-depressive personality of the psychiatric literature.



    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michele1
    most white collar customers I deal with say they would prefer the club without some loud mouth dj trying to hear his voice all night and playing the music 10 times too loud.
    Ditto to that

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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish
    I've actually seen a few customers leave a strip club because of the DJ's antics.
    again ditto.

    DJ's are a dime a dozen. Good DJ's ( who don't go on powertrips or think they are the show) however are in fact hard to come by. A nice club runs better with a good dj but alot of decent clubs still do fine with soso or even bad DJ's.

    I say let management know about this DJ at Shotgun's and how some of the custys and dancers feel about him. Maybe the DJ needs to be fired to make way for a better DJ.

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    I don't know that you can do much to change this club. It was crappy when I worked there back in 1999 and it seems like nothing has changed. I can't believe they still play the radio between sets (we're talking a regualr radio station!!).

    He is probably the only guy in town who isn't worried about his reputation and ability to get another "real " job in the future... Like driving a truck or somthing.

    And Big Green... "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

    --From Hamlet (III, ii, 239)

    I feel applies in this case


    Promote yourself and earn more money! This is a business that is owned by strippers for strippers. Let's make that money!


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    Why does anyone think management "needs to be informed" or whatever. I promise, "management" already knows and has either A: dealt with it or B: doesn't give a shit. Save your energy.

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    Okay, thanks for all the advice. I am not going to call the manager because I am fully aware that it is none of my fucking business, however, I will talk to her about it the next time I see her. I know the dancer and I don't think she'd want me to "fight her battles" with the DJ.

    The main reason I was considering calling was because I dance there occasionally and I would not be able to contain my attitude if I walked in and he was the DJ. He is losing money for the club and thats the point I will make when I talk to Dee Dee. I won't even bring up who the dancer was because that isn't the point. The point was he cleared away tipping custies. Like someone said "he gave the custies a chance to look at their watch" and decide it was time to go. Not only did it make the girl on stage lose money it cost all the other girls as well.

    I prefer dancing places that people forget all about time and just keeping throwing down their money because they are having a good time. I would NEVER want to tip a DJ that didn't understand that. That's why I made a point of saying that the DJ can make or break the club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obenta
    Why does anyone think management "needs to be informed" or whatever. I promise, "management" already knows and has either A: dealt with it or B: doesn't give a shit. Save your energy.
    I have no doubt there are clubs where informing management is a waste of time, but not in my favorite clubs. Most of the time they did NOT already know and solved the problem. Example: A cute young dancer was giving guys her prices for extras up front. Not cool in this particular club. I informed management, and the housemom straightened her out. It probably saved her a beating in the dressing room.

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    This is different...this is something that occurred on main stage in front of everyone (customers and employees) according to the OP...the music (or lack thereof) could probably be heard in the office too.

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    ^^^that club is so small that 'management' could very well have not been present.

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    No the manager was not there to hear it. Normally the bartender would have been the person to talk to [at least thats the way it used to be there], but I also know her and she was more interested in getting drunk because all the custys were leaving. If however the manager had been there, she'd have been irate that all the customers were heading towards the door.

    The club is very small, so when one person heads towards the door, they walk by every other person in there.... which is bad because others get the same idea when there isn't a dancer on stage or music playing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGreenMnM
    In most top clubs,the dj runs the rotation and the show,the manager is just there to count the beer bottles at the end of the night and make bank drops.
    Quote Originally Posted by BigGreenMnM
    A top club and most mid level clubs wouldnt run a night without a dj and one would be called in.The manager cant take the time out and be restricted to the booth all night.
    Whatever. Last time I hit my favorite club, the music sounded good as always. Later one of the dancers mentioned that the DJ was out sick, and the manager was in the DJ booth. I hadn't even noticed.

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    by the way, dj's are helpful in clubs but i've worked in a club with a jukebox and did just fine there. the jukebox never f-d up my set. if guys came in for the dj they would go to a regular club, not a SC. they want to see hot naked ladies and dont care if the dj has a problem. that was very rude to do to the customers. the dj just could have played something heb knew that girl didn't like if he wanted to mess with her. there was no need to ruin the customer's good time too.

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    how the hell is that racist.im tired of the whole racist bullshit.always someone complainin"oh they're racist".......grrr

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    I thought it was racist because he did not do it to any dancer except the one black girl in the club. It is not what she ever plays before during or after her stage in every other club I have seen her in.
    I hate when somethings made a race issue too. I should have left the racist part out, but hell then it just be another shit DJ rant.
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    Not to bash the DJ's.. but I posted what I did for a couple of reasons:

    First, if he is singling this dancer out... and it is happening a lot and she happens to be of a different race (which is what I had gathered from the post in this thread??) then that is why I got all pissy about it... I have seen it before, and I brought up the Sexual harrassment thing because of the discrimination thing, not trying to state that this DJ was doing either, but I have seen DJ's play favorites and I've seen DJ's harrass and discriminate whether the girl is caucasion, or what have you...

    Not meaning to step on any toes, that was just my take on the post.


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