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    Default Any advice on "speaking" to dancers?

    Hi Everyone,

    I am a freelance writer working on a piece about strip clubs and stripping. I would like to be able to speak with the dancers about certain aspects of the industry, but I'm not sure of the best way to go about it.

    I don't want to spend a fortune at the club trying to talk to the ladies, and I don't want to be handing out my phone # since I'm sure that will be seen as strange.
    Does anyone have any ideas for me here? I'm sure this is a strange situation since most dancers are probably leery of any "customer" that wants to give them their #.

    Thanks for any help!

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    Default Re: Any advice on "speaking" to dancers?

    Post your questions here and see what you get. Most of the dancers here have NO problem responding to inquisitiveness.
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    Default Re: Any advice on "speaking" to dancers?

    reading SW should give you a ton of good material, and you can't believe anything a stripper is telling you when you are giving her money anyway

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    Default Re: Any advice on "speaking" to dancers?

    Emily, would you please go back to your old avatar...just for a little while? Just long enough to get burned in the memory again?

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    If I had a chance for a tax write off like this I would take full advantage of it go to the club and hang here for a while I think you will get all the information you are looking for ...

    Quote Originally Posted by conrc7
    Hi Everyone,

    I am a freelance writer working on a piece about strip clubs and stripping. I would like to be able to speak with the dancers about certain aspects of the industry, but I'm not sure of the best way to go about it.

    I don't want to spend a fortune at the club trying to talk to the ladies, and I don't want to be handing out my phone # since I'm sure that will be seen as strange.
    Does anyone have any ideas for me here? I'm sure this is a strange situation since most dancers are probably leery of any "customer" that wants to give them their #.

    Thanks for any help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by grove542000
    Emily, would you please go back to your old avatar...just for a little while? Just long enough to get burned in the memory again?
    you're not the first to complain...so all new one

    to the OP...I see you're in Philadelphia. Which club were you thinking of going to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by conrc7
    I'm sure this is a strange situation since most dancers are probably leery of any "customer" that wants to give them their #.
    You obviously need to spend more time in the clubs. Not only are we offered customer's phone numbers on a very regular basis, we are often asked for our phone #'s.

    I just made up a bunch of business cards and had my email on there so that the customer's can get in touch with me. If they send my their phone#, and they are offering work (either club dancing or bachelore party), I may return their call.

    You said you are working on a "peice". What does that mean? Are you writing an article for FHM or Maxim or are writing a screenplay or are you studying for some school assignment?

    I'm thinking school assignment due to your lack of funds. I have had people (men and womem) come into the clubs looking to tap the dancer's brains. They pretend they are customers, and lead the dancers on about buying dances. Then after of 10 minutes of conversation (during which I have answered any questions from the customer with getting dances in mind), then the person tells me that he/she is doing a paper for school and won't be getting any dances tonight.

    1. I lie to any and all questions of a personal nature. You won't get the truth out of me on just about any subject. I will frequently make up outrageous stories just to keep myself interested in the conversation.
    2. The person doing "research" is basically taking food from my mouth by wasting my time and table space at the strip club. He/she is also wasting the time of the club and occupying space that could be filled by a real customer (who may get tired of waiting for the dancer to come over and leave).


    I'm sorry if this comes off as harsh, but I get approached all the time by people doing "research" for some project or other. Unless they want to pay the $25 a song (equeal to a LD), I need to keep working to find real customers. Dancer's don't get a paycheck.


    Promote yourself and earn more money! This is a business that is owned by strippers for strippers. Let's make that money!


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    Oh, sorry. I just realized that you are a freelance writer. Me too. I've even gotten paid for some of my satire pieces.

    Good luck in selling your piece. Or are you on assignment?

    Are you female? Can you take a job dancing for a while to get a better feel for the industry? I think that will help you in getting a better perspective, and it will at least get you asking the right questions.


    Promote yourself and earn more money! This is a business that is owned by strippers for strippers. Let's make that money!


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    I've learned *all* kinds of things about the industry from reading these forums that I wouldn't have found out anywhere else -- enough so that, even though I haven't been hired yet (which is my goal), I think I could write a book about a character who was a stripper -- taking place in her club -- and be able to design the club's layout and house rules from the bottom up without making a single mistake. I love the amount of informational detail I find here. It's really incredible.

    Just use the search function, read all the pertinent threads you can find, and post any questions you can't find answered in search. And go to a strip club and observe at least once or twice, if you haven't been -- don't necessarily tell anyone you're doing research, just be a customer and watch the patterns of interaction.

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    After reading here for a while, you might take note of dancers or customers you'd be interested in interviewing (because of their location and/or their insights) and try dropping a PM with a request for an e-mail or phone interview.
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    Default Re: Any advice on "speaking" to dancers?

    Actually, Emily, I was thinking of the avatar that involves the bathtub.

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    Thank you for your response everyone. I really didn't expect much of anything when I posted on here, so I'm more than thrilled with the response.
    Anyway, one of the reasons I'm aprehensive about going to a club and spending money (even though it could be a tax write-off as pointed out earlier) is because I don't get paid until after the piece runs. I would rather not put that type of money up front. Besides the fact that it isn't exactly my style to pay my sources.
    To Paris, I am male, so no chance of me getting a job as a dancer. I'm not sure how the other jobs at clubs work, bouncer, dj, etc. Do you think there's any possiblity there? Also, what kind of writing do you do?
    I have been hesitent to PM anyone on here, as I'm afraid it might not be taken seriously, or just be seen as some sort of wierdo. But maybe that's something I will do.
    Emily, I am located in the Philadelphia region. I didn't have any specific clubs in mind, but I wanted to try the different ends of the spectrum to see if there were any differences in response. From what I can tell Delilah's is apparently at the top of the list of clubs, and Show and Tell the bottom. But I would want to get a arge spectrum of responses from women at different clubs, I think that would make a better piece.
    Again I want to thank all of you for taking the time to respond to my post, and maybe you'll be getting a PM from me in the future.
    Thanks

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    You can certainly PM me. I'd be happy to help, FWIW.

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    Default Re: Any advice on "speaking" to dancers?

    Quote Originally Posted by conrc7
    Also, what kind of writing do you do?
    Adult content and Satirical essays.


    If you want to know how the clubs in the area are, go on over to club chat and ask in there. You can be as specific or general as you want, but you are more likely to get the truth here then you would by putting in a call to the manager of the clubs.


    Promote yourself and earn more money! This is a business that is owned by strippers for strippers. Let's make that money!


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    Quote Originally Posted by conrc7
    I have been hesitent to PM anyone on here, as I'm afraid it might not be taken seriously, or just be seen as some sort of wierdo. But maybe that's something I will do.
    If you provide some way for the recipients to verify your identity and your credentials, I don't think you'll have a problem. Are you writing on spec for a particular magazine, or do you want to write the piece first and then shop it around?

    What's the slant of your article? Are you writing for a national "men's magazine," a regional magazine, or some other market? Are you specifically interested in the Philly stripclub scene, or are you interested in hearing from dancers who have worked elsewhere?

    Posting questions you'd like answered would be a good idea (either here or in a new thread), as others have said. Add that you'd be happy to recieve PMs from people who have particular insight into those questions and wouldn't mind providing additional information in an e-mail interview. See what happens.

    Good luck.
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    Advice: Didnt I meet you the other night?!! What an original idea!! You and every other guy would like us to sit and talk all night. Who are you to write a book about strippers anyway? Most girls are not intersted in giving out personal information at work, CREEPY.Thank you for the curiosity. Here is some advice why not write about something you already know about. Hope this helps.

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    Default Re: Any advice on "speaking" to dancers?

    lvdancer, I understand the sarcasm and the idea that dancers wouldn't want to take the time to talk to me about anything while they are working. I don't want to be taking them away from making money, and I certainly wouldn't want any personal info from them. Especially anything that would put them in a dangerous situation. That is why I am hesitant to even go to the clubs in the first place.

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