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    Default Do SCs try to retain certain dancers?

    I am curious to know if SCs try at all to retain dancers that are "good" for the club. It is usually pretty obvious which dancers are making money and which ones aren't. However, it seems like since all SCs treat dancers as independent contractors, the dancers have no reason to have any loyalty to a certain club, and thus tend to move between clubs as the crowds move or they just feel like a change of scenery.

    As a custy, I have a certain taste in girls, and should I find a girl I like at a certain club, it would be nice to know that I could go back and have a good idea I am going to see her again. Of course asking her where she will be in a month is pointless, so it is a crap shoot whether she might be there or not. As a club owner, which I am not, it seems like you could build up a roster of dancers that draws a certain clientle, are relatively SS free, and build a good business.

    This seems obvious to me, but it is certainly not the case. Anyone care to enlighten me as to why SC owners don't offer incentives for the better dancers to stay at their club.

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    Default Re: Do SCs try to retain certain dancers?

    If a dancer and regular really like each other, they exchange information to keep from disconnecting.

    Most customers come looking for new girls, so they like turnover. Managers know that.

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    Just like any other business, various strip clubs encourage girls that they like and who are reliable, to continue to work there.

    I work bookings in small rural clubs and the girls that make the most money for the club, who are reliable as far as not cancelling bookings, and those who seem popular, and sell a lot of dances, get the privilege of booking out a year in advance, getting to work special event weeks, and other little perks to keep them coming back.

    Dancers as a whole are not the most stable type of employee for various reasons we all know about. While there is money to be made at a club, that creates the incentive for girls to continue to work there.

    But this business has a lot of lulls between the good times, and as they occur, some girls choose to not ride out the tide.

    The "career" dancers who have a loyal following, as Sports Writer 2 eluded to, tend to exchange contact info with good customers, so they don't lose touch.

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    Default Re: Do SCs try to retain certain dancers?

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsWriter2
    If a dancer and regular really like each other, they exchange information to keep from disconnecting.

    Humm, I guess I am just too creepy then, cause every time I have ever asked how to know when a particular dancer is going to be back in the club, no contact info is offered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpeters1
    Humm, I guess I am just too creepy then, cause every time I have ever asked how to know when a particular dancer is going to be back in the club, no contact info is offered.
    Well, if there isn't a schedule requirement, many girls simply don't know the next time they are coming to work. Personally, I'm really lazy and indecisive. One night I'll work on the north side, another night I'll work on the east side, another night I'll have a zit on my ass and want to stay home, and yes another night I'll drive out of town and dance. Do you find run-on sentences sexy?

    A reliable, organized, and driven dancer will have this information if she wants you to know it. Even when I do know that I'm coming into work next, the customer may not show up. Even more common, they show up when I am busy with someone else, then get all huffy and puffy and leave.

    I used to use a phone to call regulars to come see me, but the minutes ran out and its just too much of a pain to keep track of everyone. But once again, I am very lazy.


    Edit to add: My home club does take good care to ensure that I come back. They don't do much, but I often get free or discounted tipout, and the manager always offers to buy me a drink when I come in there. At the end of the night, they give me a hug and ask me when I'm coming back, encouraging me to come work more often. Its not really a big incentive financially, but they treat me with respect and ALWAYS have my back if there is a customer conflict. Sometimes that's all it takes.

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    Smaller clubs rely on repeat customers- I was asked to hold to a 4-5 day schedule, which I could not (long drive.)
    This is why this business is so hard- everyone is playing the ends against the middle.

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    Default Re: Do SCs try to retain certain dancers?

    in your area cpeters. there are not any schedules. at least beachside. so katrine is right they may not know.
    of course they would not offer contact info right off the bat if ever.

    i know of quite a few girls at my local club that have been there for years. also ones i have been seeing steady for the last year. that club does tend to retain girls but not because of what if anything the club does to retain them.

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    Anyone care to enlighten me as to why SC owners don't offer incentives for the better dancers to stay at their club
    Some clubs, or I should say some managers do.

    I have had managers which I've worked with previously call me and request I return to their clubs for awhile because some of their high rollers inquired if I might be available when the high roller plans to visit.

    They have offered me things like paying for my flight, hotel and rental car.

    These haven't been small clubs either. They have been big upscale places.The only stipulation has been that I keep quiet about it so other dancers at these clubs didn't get upset or start demanded equal perks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpeters1
    ...Anyone care to enlighten me as to why SC owners don't offer incentives for the better dancers to stay at their club.
    Because as we've discussed before, the vast majority of strip club owners/managers are stupid.

    Also, like we've discussed before, a dancer that is making money is not necessarily one that is, "good" for the club, or at least the best for the club. From the club's perspective, the dancer that sits and drinks with a big group of guys, keeping up the party atmosphere, is much better for the club's business than one that seeks out the guys by themselves and tries to get them to spend every last dime on lap dances. But of course, most clubs don't do much to keep the party girl coming in either.
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    I followed my favorite manager and a great DJ to 2 other clubs in Houston, aside from the one we all met in. They took such great care of me, and they knew that my presence at their clubs was going to bring a positive and profitable vibe to all. I do hope they are both around and doing well. One lived in Lake Charles and commuted, been thinking about him since Hurricane Rita hit.

    Incentives and girls who give you contact info are almost two different subjects though. The good clubs I've worked have always taken decent care about girls they want to stay......

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    I don't think the managers care. I've heard managers say things like "there is always another girl just waiting to replace you". Oh, sure. That is why you can only get 7 girls to work on a Friday night ??? (this club is designed to have 20-30 girls).

    This same club is advertizing 30 girls on October 29th. Right now there are a total of 15 dancers who work on a regular basis. Of those 15, I would be willing to bet that half of them have other plans on the Saturday before halloween.

    I asked the DJ where exactly these thirty girls are coming from? He just shrugged and said that he ain't working that night because the manager wants to DJ that night himself. Well, I'm not working that night. I guess I will be fired after that Then they can have one less girl on their roster overall, since so many girls are lining up to take my place. We were threatened that if we didn't show up we would be banned from the whole chain of clubs. Yeah, whatever. As if there aren't over 100 strip clubs in this state to choose from. It's not like the money has been stellar lately anyway.


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    If the managers have any brains, they will try their damndest to keep their best girls. When IR 2 closed, the general manager asked the best girls to follow to the IR 1. He was smart. He wanted the minimal drama and maximum cash girls to go along with him. I've seen this sort of thing before, and the top girls get treated better. Doesnt happen at EVERY club... but it DOES happen.
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    Default Re: Do SCs try to retain certain dancers?

    I watch new girls come in and make tons of money their first month and then average down so the owners know new girls draw more attention even if there not as hot as the clubs veteran dancers

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    Default Re: Do SCs try to retain certain dancers?

    I'm pretty sure I read all of this somewhere in the Stripping 101 textbook:

    Fact #1: Strip clubs want to make money - as much of it as possible

    Fact #2: The dancers are what draw the money into the strip club

    Fact #3: Managers LOVE the girls who make lots of money for the strip club

    Fact #4: While they may deny it, many managers will allow money-making girls to bend the rules, and will often give them first shot at the "plum" shifts. Some offer other perks, but these are probably the two most common.

    Fact #5: Sometimes the extra perks still aren't enough to keep a top-notch dancer, especially if she knows she cna find better elseweher.

    Fact #6: There are still a fair number of managers who just don't give a shit, and only see the girls as an animated commodity from which to extract as much money as possible before they move on.

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    Stripclubs, if managed right, might last a decade. But these are the high scale ones.
    Usually, these high scale clubs do not last over five to six years at the most.
    The clubs with real lasting power are the lower end to middle of the road ones.
    But all this has been said before.
    Dancers are important, but the club is also important.
    And we are back to the same old argument about which is most important.

    This business is generally very volatile and it is hard to predict what tomorrow will be like.
    A dancer may be real hot one week, and the next week, she may be the lead anchor.
    The public is very very fickle, and changes moods without warning in a flashing second.
    The past is not prologue in this case, and most management will adapt the "Just in TIme"
    strategy concerning dancers, rather than "Just in Case".
    It may be harsh to look at dancers as expendable inventory, but in reality, that is all what dancers are, inventory. To be used and discarded as the situation arises.

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