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    Sorry, but this thread inspired me from all the previous "what do you make" threads.

    I've learned in this business, many a girls like to lie about their income. Try it out... If a stripper comes up to you at work and asks, "how much did you make tonight" either, she's your close friend and you both share that info, is new and naive doesn't know that that is taboo to even ask, or wants to "show you up" and say she's made more. I haven't indulged in this "practice", but from what I've observed in the clubs, when girls start divulging that info, funny, the $$$amount keeps climbing among them. Why do they do that? If I'm going to say anything, it's " Oh, ok, not so good, or, shitty". And they have no clue what's good for you, or bad!

    Sorry, but we know we all have a tendancy to be katty... hey, we're chicks! So no need to get involved in other people's money! (hey! wasn't that a movie!)
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    How about this - I was working at the Body Shop in LA and this girl says out of the blue "I thought I only made a hundred bucks last night but then when I got home I found $400 in my bag" Im thinking... ok, good for you. Later that night a few girls were sitting around then mentioned this girl and asked me if shes told me about the "found money"... she would do it every single night... kinda funny...

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    Um, yeah, since when is it okay to ask people how much money they make? If I worked in an office and had a "real" job with a paycheck, I wouldn't ask my coworkers how much their check was on payday...sheesh...

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    i would never ask a girl how much she made. the only thing i'll ever ask is if the night was good or bad. why? i use this to see what type of girls the customers go for. if girls wearing bikinis are the only girls having good nites, i'll see that the clientele prefers them. this is to see if i am in the right club or, if i've had a bad night, whether it was just me or the customers in general.
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    Heh, I knew it. However, there's a good reason no one brags about the big money nights. I never wanted to get rolled after work and I worked with girls who were low-down dirty rotten.
    I met a woman who danced in the late 1980s and she told me her room mate stole her cash stash, and then swore she didn't. The dancer made her undress and found the money in her underwear. "And then I beat her ass." (This dancer went on to have a long career in the U.S. Army as SF Support.)
    So yeah, for the good of all, no one needs to know your business.

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    ^^^^^ I've had my bags torn into many a time and locks either broken or picked, not because I told what I was making but because it was obvious. I never tell what I make, but in small clubs you can still get an idea of what everyone is going home with.
    I've worked with many dancers that will sit around talking abut how much they made and as the circle gets back tothe girl that said it first, the money is was risen higher than hers as if saying they made more actually makes it true.
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    okay i'm guilty of asking a dancer this, only because i was told that they make an average of $1000 a week, and of course that's what she stated to me. I'm pretty sure that this is B/S since we don't live in a huge city, just a smaller one, and there are alot of people living below the poverty level. I just can't see how that is going to work out. I haven't started dancing yet so i don't know, but i think they were trying to sell me on the whole stripping business! It's rediculous, i'm going to dance because i enjoy it, and i'm sure i'll make okay money, if i don't i'll quit, but i'm not going to make that much, i can almost guarantee it.
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    I talk about how much I made. I don't get why girls are so secrative about it.

    If I'm having a bad night and I ask my friend about hers, and she is doing better than me, maybe that means there is money in the club, but a problem with my attitude.

    If everyone is not making money, I feel better to know it's a slow night and not just me.

    When my friends tell me about their $ and it is more than mine, it makes me work harder. When I have earned more than them, I am proud of myself and I keep working hard & hustling!

    I have 3 or 4 girls who we tell each other 'I made $400 so far,' or whatever. It's nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 242_fair
    I talk about how much I made. I don't get why girls are so secrative about it.

    If I'm having a bad night and I ask my friend about hers, and she is doing better than me, maybe that means there is money in the club, but a problem with my attitude.

    If everyone is not making money, I feel better to know it's a slow night and not just me.

    When my friends tell me about their $ and it is more than mine, it makes me work harder. When I have earned more than them, I am proud of myself and I keep working hard & hustling!

    I have 3 or 4 girls who we tell each other 'I made $400 so far,' or whatever. It's nice.
    It's different amongst friends, true. However, I won't disclose anything other than "good" or "bad" or "okay" to just anyone.

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    I definately like to share just to gage how well I'm doing. I won't ask a girl that I don't know. Or if it's a girl I don't know and we both happen to be chillin' in the locker room I'll ask "How's your night going?" usually I'll volunteer how I'm doing first "Fuck man, I've only sold 2 lap dances! WTF!" then the reply is either "Yeah, it's slow..." Or "Yeah I hear ya, I've only sold one" etc. I think it's good to share because that way when you have a shitty night you don't blame yourself. That's a big one for me. When I have a bad night and I don't know for certain that everyone else had a bad night too I completely kick my ass and get totally down on myself and that's just not cool. If I have a ridiculously good night then I'll never say unless it's too my good friends because that just gets girls jealous. At the club I'm at now I ask the bouncer who monitors the lap dance area "Hey does tonight suck or is it just me?" They will usually be pretty honest. "Yeah only a couple girls have done any dances" etc
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    Amen MeganS ! I agree for several reasons 1: It IS tacky (unless friends, even then why bother?) 2: makes me think you are a liar and I avoid you. 3: You wouldn't (as stated in prior post) ask all your colleges at other jobs. 4: Piss off the 'right' person and get robbed! 5: Just don't do it--I agree vague statements are sufficient : good, great, okay, terrible...perfect! Why does someone feel the need to 'share' their "worth"--probably due to the fact they gage their "worth" in $$$ alone....everyone has good/bad days for infinite reasons...custy regs, like that 'look' today, ecetera....Please refrain from talking about how much you make/made..thank you!
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    I think the question is valid on this forum. If someone (i.e. me) is thinking of moving, I would like to know the potential of the city and of its clubs. That said, please review clubs in which you have worked in the Clubs & Reviews section.

    At work, I don't even ask my hustle buddies because someone's feelings are going to be hurt. If I made $1500 (ha, ha) and my buddy made $3000, I'd wonder what I did wrong instead of appreciating the excellent night.

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    Another thing to keep in mind...Here in Indy we have a gas company (Citizen's) that plagues the airways starting in October stating "we're citizen's just like you" --PLEASE. They are the one's out of the 3 here that raise their rates the MOST...if something is good, people already know it, exclaiming over and over how great something supposedly is, usually IS NOT. Have you noticed too that advertisers will do this with movies as well; the one's you hear little about are usually good/great as compared to the one's that constantly advertise "how great it is!"
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    I've told certain girls who ask that I make LESS than I actually do. I just want to avoid any drama with these girls who I know love to hate on the top earners - and insist that I must be doing something extra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holiday
    I've told certain girls who ask that I make LESS than I actually do. I just want to avoid any drama with these girls who I know love to hate on the top earners - and insist that I must be doing something extra.
    Gah. I hate it when other dancers badger me for the specific amount I made on a shift. They don't take, "I did okay," for an answer. Of course, these are the same dancers that claim to have made $2000, when I know that there is no way.

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    my lips are sealed !

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    Quote Originally Posted by justine08
    Another thing to keep in mind...Here in Indy we have a gas company (Citizen's) that plagues the airways starting in October stating "we're citizen's just like you" --PLEASE. They are the one's out of the 3 here that raise their rates the MOST...if something is good, people already know it, exclaiming over and over how great something supposedly is, usually IS NOT. Have you noticed too that advertisers will do this with movies as well; the one's you hear little about are usually good/great as compared to the one's that constantly advertise "how great it is!"
    or politican commercials, they spend so much time talking about what is bad about the competition, they never actually tell us what is good about themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizette
    Gah. I hate it when other dancers badger me for the specific amount I made on a shift. They don't take, "I did okay," for an answer. Of course, these are the same dancers that claim to have made $2000, when I know that there is no way.
    I'll somtimes just ask them if they REALLY want to know because I don't want to know what they made. Plus, I tell them if they made more than me I would feel bad so they really shouldn't ask me again. <<--- this sounds kind of cold in print, but when I say it out loud it really is just a nice way of saying please don't ask me because I don't want to tell you.
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    I think lack of proper "training" and regular pep talk counseling in the clubs causes a lot of this.

    Girls are catty and jealous in general, but let's face it, we are in a business based on our visual appearance. Next our selling skills come to play, as well as our integrity and personality.

    I constantly post and discuss HONEST figures regarding earnings. Anyone who reads my posts sees that I openly mention slow times along with the good. Most girls are hellbent on talking about the one $900 night they had but silent when it comes to the 10 $100 nights they had. For some strange reason dancers talk about earnings POTENTIAL and not earnings AVERAGES. Potential doesn't mean shit. What a dancer makes day in and day out is what matters. If one of you asks me about a club, I am not going to tell you about the several over $500 nights I had over the last 30 days of work, but I will tell you about the 5 $75 nights, The 8 $150 nights, the 5 $300 nights, and the 9- 10 nights where I made between $200-$299.

    Many dancers are not businesslike and nedd to be made to understand the obvious, that every customer has different tastes in dancers. I may sell 30 dances tonight, and you may only sell 11. Tomorrow the tables may be turned and you outsell me. It's the nature of the business, and not cause for jealousy.

    Most clubs today have an ever increasing amount of dancers relative to customers, therefore there usually is not enough money to go around in large amounts even IF every girl hustled and worked the clientele well.

    Plus if another girl consistently outsells another dancer, instead of being jealous, the underperforming girl should do what every motivational class teaches, watch what the succesful girl does and COPY IT. (I'm not saying to give blow jobs if that is the key to her success LOL.) Why in the world do girls get jealous of others successes instead of admiring a successful dancer and LEARNING from her?

    Management needs to explain constantly to these girls how money flows in clubs and teach girls not to takevariations in earnings personally.

    Club owners don't care, and that is why cattiness exists.

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    I agree that a fair number of dancers lie about how much they make. It seems to be part of the huslte mindeset sometimes.

    Girls seem to use it to psych out competition as well as to psych themselves up as well.

    I don't really talk about it in numbers. With me it's more of the good, great or slow variety and then only if another dancer asks me directly.
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    I think it's annoying when girls lie about how much money they make. One girl I used to work with claimed she made $600 once, and I never saw her doing dances. And this wasn't the type of club where customers would pay you just to sit and talk to them either. Another girl claimed that she made $10,000 a week dancing in Chicago and Vegas, and I was thinking, well, if that's true, WTF are you doing here then?

    I never share a dollar amount if another dancer asks me how much I made. I just say "Oh, I did okay" or "I didn't do so well." I really only have one dancer friend that I hang out with outside of work on a regular basis, and she's the only person I'll tell exactly how much I made.

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    At some of the clubs I work at we get dance tickets or chips from the DJ each time we do a dance. The DJ collects the money and at the end of the night we cash in our tickets less the clubs cut, so all the girls know how many dances each girl sold.

    Some girls never sell much, and others who are "more competitive" get bent out of shape when they are not #1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tina
    I think lack of proper "training" and regular pep talk counseling in the clubs causes a lot of this.

    Girls are catty and jealous in general, but let's face it, we are in a business based on our visual appearance. Next our selling skills come to play, as well as our integrity and personality. . . .

    Management needs to explain constantly to these girls how money flows in clubs and teach girls not to takevariations in earnings personally.
    As many of you know, amadeus and I are in the process of creating a club. We value employee success a great deal, and have tossed around ideas like handouts, optional meetings, etc., to teach girls about business, personal finance, sales and people skills, and so on. Dancers making money are (hopefully! ) happy dancers, happy dancers (hopefully) are better dancers, and better dancers (hopefully) mean we make more money. Tina, do you think girls would generally be responsive to these kinds of things? I'm sure there would be a few girls who didn't need it, and a few who thought they didn't need it, but do you think, as a general rule, this is something dancers would appreciate and of which they would take advantage?

    Club owners don't care, and that is why cattiness exists.
    These ones do. (Most don't, I know. Ain't it sad?)

    Plus if another girl consistently outsells another dancer, instead of being jealous, the underperforming girl should do what every motivational class teaches, watch what the succesful girl does and COPY IT. (I'm not saying to give blow jobs if that is the key to her success LOL.) Why in the world do girls get jealous of others successes instead of admiring a successful dancer and LEARNING from her?
    I love this attitude, and wish I saw it more everywhere, not just among dancers. Jealousy only comes about when you don't think. Irrational people see others' successes as a threat. Rational people see them as inspirations.

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    I don't see what good can come out of divulging this information. What you made is what you made, and wether another girl made 100 dollars or 5,000 dollars, you still go home with what you made.

    If you make more than the other girls, they're gonna be jealous.

    If you make less, you're gonna feel crappy.

    Why bother?

    Oh, and as for customers asking me how much I make, I just stare them right in the eye and say, "how much do you make?" If they still push it, it's obvious they're an asshole and you should walk away from them.

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    Yah girls asked me that a lot at another club

    You know what my response always was ??

    3 to the pi

    Let them chew on that

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