Oh, I just love this, whenever asked, I give them an unbelievable figure, and just watch the look on the faces. Damn, so what, this is one of my many guilty, (guilty?) pleasures.
Heck, Love it!
Oh, I just love this, whenever asked, I give them an unbelievable figure, and just watch the look on the faces. Damn, so what, this is one of my many guilty, (guilty?) pleasures.
Heck, Love it!
*shrug*
I'm with 242 and Foxey... I don't mind talking about what I make. Not necessarily dollar amounts, but showprice, amount of private dances done, "are the tips good on stage?"...it becomes pretty obvious how much someone is making. But then we only work 3-4 girls at a time, so close quarters might have something to do with it.
But really, I won't talk about income with girls I don't know, but I've never had anyone anywhere who I was not at least friendly with ask me. That would be so weird, I don't know what I'd say! Oh, customers have asked me, and I lie to them, depending on the person. Don't want them to think I make too much, or too little.
I like to compare, it keeps me on my toes.
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Here's a situation you'd think I'd have learned from:
Every time I am standing in a group with my friends and I say: "Tonight is so bad, I only have [insert amount of money]," another of my friends says: "I only have [insert less amount of money." I.e. if I complain that I only have $200, a girl next to me will say: "Don't worry, I only have $150." It makes me feel bad and grateful for what I have...and reminds me that I shouldn't ever brag or complain because there is always someone doing better and always someone doing worse. Whenever a girl I like is doing well, I always give her the thumbs-up, even when I'm doing badly, because we should support each other and be happy for one another...there are always the nights when we are getting dances and everyone else is sitting around.





Court Vision I think "some" dancers will be interested in what you have to offer. A lot depends on how profitable it will be to work in your club.
Unfortunately many dancers don't take this business seriously and only look at it as extra and quick money. Many dancers are young and are not goal oriented.
I worked at the one "upscale club in Yuma AZ several years ago, and the owners there used to periodically have brief meetings after closing,and asked the girls for feedback on making their jobs easier and what the club could do to help them make more money, and most of the dancers were more interested in going home than in offering feedback that could positively improve their earnings. And this club would run T shirt dances and other merchandise specials and the DJ would push hard to help girls sell. They really knew how to push guys to spend.
So if you make your meeting mandatory, preferably not after work, and the club is profitable for the dancers, and you guys get a reputation for having fair house fees and for being really cool to work for, maybe 1/3 of the girls might benefit and grow from it.
Many dancers have so much bullshit going on in their out of the club lives that they won't take this business seriously no matter how profitable it is.
If you can get a small reliable group of dancers who stick with you and follow what you are teaching, that would be a great accomplishment.
Point taken. I know I can't turn all of them into master saleswomen, and I wouldn't expect that. But the rest of your message encourages me that some would be receptive.Originally Posted by Tina
And really, they're probably the ones I care about. The ones who would appreciate and be motivated by a positive (to the extent possible) work environment and management who wants to help them make money, they're the ones I'm after. Like you, right?
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Wanna PM me with a list of all their ideas?They really knew how to push guys to spend.![]()
Hmm, I was wondering if making the meeting mandatory might jeopardize independent contractor status. I'll have to check the labor laws. As for your not after work point, that's brilliant. I know I would be less receptive to that kind of thing at the end of a day. Perhaps a better time would be a little bit before opening.So if you make your meeting mandatory, preferably not after work . . .
Maybe we could even offer incentives to attend, such as a free weekday house fee or something. When I worked in retail, a lot of times our meetings were on my off days (which I hated), but the manager always had a little something extra for us. No, I don't mean "extra" like it's used around here!He'd buy pizza, give us small gift certificates for participating in role-plays, etc. I always appreciated that. Maybe the house fee thing would get girls there and boost morale, and it'd be a very small investment for us.
That is one of my main goals. Part of it is because I like working with happy people, but really it's because happy people who like their job generally make you more money!If you can get a small reliable group of dancers who stick with you and follow what you are teaching, that would be a great accomplishment.![]()
I will confess I don't like to say what I make simply because I don't want to feel like a big loser compared to my colleagues. Dancing is a little different than selling blazers. When you are having a bad night it sometimes feels personal - like there is something wrong with you, and you fudge to make yourself feel better. And a lot of girls do like to ask because they get to prance around (even if it is only in their heads) and think that they are better than you. On the other hand, sometimes it is good to know if there is money in the bar, or if it is just you.
I don't know Tina - in some ways I see what you are saying, but I can only think of this as unfortunate if they are in fact foal oriented and just can't meet their goals - like if an 19 year old girl wants to screw around and have fun in her life, and wants to dance in order to not begin committing to a corporate life style, I feel I have to support that. I can't actually feel like that is wrong.Unfortunately many dancers don't take this business seriously and only look at it as extra and quick money. Many dancers are young and are not goal oriented.
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Make meetings mandatory. Whoever shows up or calls off ahead of time should be put on The Cares About Job list. Because they care, give them a free house fee day.Originally Posted by Court Vision
Also, lower house fees for dancers who are on the schedule and show up. Dancers who come and go as they please should pay more. Reward reliability.
Nothing says, "I appreciate you," like a lower house fee.




Precisely. I judge my total average. I keep averages per month to track customer spending trends. Also, I like to know what a good entertainer could expect to earn in a week working 3-4 shifts in a certain club. Unfortunately, most entertainers do not keep records and calculate averages of what they earn. When they tell me $900, it's not helpful. I don't bother asking.Originally Posted by Tina




Beh... I never could get in step with the chicks who wanted to do the one-upmanship each night over earnings.
If you made more, they hate you.
If you made less, they'll try to gloat over their higher earnings, which just makes you want to backhand them into a locker hard enough to ruin their new nosejob.
Everyone figures it out approximately, eventually, and you know you're doing comparatively okay when word gets back to you that your DJ is asking the others why they can't take a clue from your game... (although, not the most particularly brilliant move on the part of a DJ)
And I'm just going to have to agree with Tina on this... The girl next to me may want to all talk up the ngiht when every money-man she had came in in one shift and she walked out with $1K, but the reality is probably that in the same month her usual nightly earnings probably averaged $150-$250. And she isn't about to share that, because the moment she does she no longer looks like Queen Shit-Don't-Stink.
~~McCain
Last edited by McCain; 10-22-2005 at 10:39 PM. Reason: typos



Know of some girls who bring in uncashed funny money and tell you they made it the same night to boost their total
I don't talk about it at work or with any coworkers ever. BUT, I'll tell ya'll now. I made fo-twenny tonight. Hehe, good night, lucky number!!!
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