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    Default Definition of a skinhead (touchy subject)

    Since it was asked to be moved over to Rhia's neck of the woods I figured I would be the one to start the definition of a skinhead thread. I sincerely(sp?) hope that I don't offend anyone, and no one posts any kind of hate rhetoric in my thread.Here goes:
    Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
    Pronunciation: 'skin-"hed
    Function: noun
    1 : a person whose hair is cut very short
    2 : a usually white male belonging to any of various sometimes violent youth gangs whose members have close-shaven hair and often espouse white-supremacist beliefs here is a link to a good read on the skin movement and its subcultures:

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    Um i jsut would like to say that NOT all skins are racist and NOT all are homophobic and NOT all have shaved heads.

    I dont care to elaborate any further, because no one ever gets it.

    but there are skins that are SHARPS. Sharps are NOT racist, they are not homophobic

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    i agree. there are many variations..

    but why is this thread even being posted?

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    Default Re: Definition of a skinhead

    PC definition of a skinhead: Someone who is follically challenged.

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    lol thank you

    i dont know but this is ONLy going to bring out hate from those that dont get what a skin is.

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    Default Re: Definition of a skinhead

    Thanks for starting this one Blade.

    Also for those who were curious about this thread -I was the one who asked for more info. Here is why :

    I would really like to learn more about this since I have always thought that they were racist and homophobic. However I have seen a few people lately say that isn't true. And since I have never seen, read or experienced any other type of skinhead I am confused but interested.

    I am always open to broadening my knowledge about various groups and cultures so I do hope those with experince or knowledge of non racist/homophobic skinheads will share.

    Tart mentions SHARPS. I see she didn't want to go into further detail but would anyone else care to explain more about this group ? Thanks so much !

    Off to read Blade link now.

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    Default Re: Definition of a skinhead

    SHARPS =
    Skin
    Heads
    Against
    Racial
    Prejudice

    Not all of them are white, not all of them are straight, not all of them are Christian, and a lot of them are really cool and righteous folks.

    As for "racist" skinheads, speaking from the perspective of someone whose been known to rub shoulders with the ilk, there are varying degrees amongst these folks. Not all of them preach hate and violence. The more tolerant ones are sometimes known as "white separatists" or "racialists", and may be commonly referred to as "White Pride", as opposed to the more militant "White Power". And, oddly enough, there's a number of them who view the KKK as a group of idiotic dipwads.

    Just as I have told many skinheads to judge a person by who they really are, not by their race, I would also say that individual skinheads should be judged on their actions, not on their label. They are not all "created" equal.

    Just my two cents. Don't bother flaming, because I'm *not* a skinhead of any variety - I simply know a good handful of them.

    ~~McCain

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    Thank you McCain.

    The reason I didnt want to say anything on sharps is because I am one. And to open up that before someone else says " they get it " like McCain did... eh it would be DRAMA

    if you'd like to know more PM me. I dont feel this is a place for me post my beliefs etc. But for the record,

    I am educated ..

    I dont push my beliefs ON ANYONE.

    Im not a member of the KKK,

    I am not racist.

    I am NOT homophobic

    There are several sharps that are gay, black or hispanic.

    I am puerto Rican/Irish.

    I dont have a shaved head.

    I do NOT carry heavy metal ( swastika, iron cross )

    I have no tats.

    I am catholic
    I embrace the sharp community . to each his own.

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    I was friends with lots of SHARPS back in the day.

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    Will do Tart.

    See wow, had I not asked more info I might have continued to walk around thinking they were all like the ones I have encountered.

    This is very enlightening

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    From Wikipedia (an oversimplification, I know, but maybe it'll help):

    * Nazi-Skinheads (Neo-Nazi Skins, sometimes called White Power) - Racist and highly political. Despite the common moniker, some racist skinheads have no connection to Nazism.

    * SHARP (Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice), ARA (Anti-Racist Action) Skins, RASH (Red and Anarchist Skinheads), Redskins, and Anarcho-Skinheads - Aggressively anti-racist and political. Again, the moniker "SHARP skinheads" is commonly used for all anti-racist skinheads, but these organizations are independent.

    * Traditional (Trad), Trojan (after the Trojan Records label), or Original Skins - Unlike the other categories, traditional skinheads do not regard attitudes toward racism as central to the subculture. Instead, they identify with the original skinhead movement ("The Spirit of 69") in music, style, and/or working class pride.
    Unfortunately, "skinhead" has a racist connotation as does the Confed flag and Malcolm X shirts. I respect SHARP becuase they have made great efforts to remove the connotation by fighting against racism and Nazi skinheads. It wasn't until I was a sophomore in high school did I know there was a difference. A huge brawl had broken out in the parking lot and it consisted of a bunch of angry, shaved and tattooed White boys. Later, a fellow student (who was a SHARP member) explained to me it was between Nazi SHs and SHARPS and that yes, there was a huge difference. I learned more in that conversation than I did the entire sophomore year.

    Now I don't waste my time trying to figure out whether someone is a Nazi/SHARP/Trojan skinhead or not. Hell, he could just like how he looks with a shaved head and tattoos.


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    Let me ask this ...... Am I just seeing unreal things, or are more and more COPs shaving their heads bare?

    I have several explanations for what I've seen locally. Which seems most plausible?
    They have a bad lice infestation.
    They are becoming skinheads (see above definition).
    They think that it makes them look more menacing, so thugs will give up easier.
    It is a new style, patterned after the COPS TV shows.
    Minoxidil is beyond a COP's paycheck, so why fight it.
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    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss. Kristina Lee
    i agree. there are many variations..

    but why is this thread even being posted?
    Educational purposes, just pointing out the fact that not all off us skins are racists or homophobes(if I was I'd be fucked since Dea is bi). I want people to understand that there are good skins, just like the human race..theres some good in the fucked up world.

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    You forgot ska skinheads! Ska is syncopated rock music w/ horns, made from the influence of Afro-Latin-Carribean music on receptive white people (Madness, Voodoo Glow Skulls, old No Doubt)...
    I'm assuming the shaved head became stylish because of the massive year-round heat in the Carribean...where many First Wave ska bands originated...

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    ^^^ jealous you are on henry rollins lap.

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    I'm gonna see him when he comes to CA..will definitely offer to jump on his lap! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmaxine
    You forgot ska skinheads! Ska is syncopated rock music w/ horns, made from the influence of Afro-Latin-Carribean music on receptive white people (Madness, Voodoo Glow Skulls, old No Doubt)...
    I'm assuming the shaved head became stylish because of the massive year-round heat in the Carribean...where many First Wave ska bands originated...
    I'm sure I left out MANY groups..this was not intentional, merely an accidental oversight on my part...I'm sure given some time I can dig up enough material to educate the masses on the rudeboys and the roots of Jamacian Ska, show the connection to the English punk scene(with bands like The Clash drawing heavily on the Ska sound) and make the correlation between them seem plausible, without forgetting modern day groups and the music of the masses, maybe I will...Whoa way too much intelligent thought in there...

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    I shave my head because it's falling out anyway. I don't like the half bald half ring of hair look lol.
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    If you look around you, it's simply the cool thing for youth to do as a fashion trend. It doesn't necessarily represent their philosophy.

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    again the Europeans are way ahead of their US counterparts ... in part because the European media has been less successful in automatically tagging them with a 'racist hate monger' label. And unlike the USA, white 'racialist' conservative groups in western europe are starting to become major political players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmaxine
    I'm gonna see him when he comes to CA..will definitely offer to jump on his lap! LOL
    I'm sure he won't mind. After all, he's "got a six-pack and nothing to do."

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    mmmmm..........so what you're all basically saying is that a skinhead (whatever variety) is basically a group of people with a common philosophy......and you don't have to have a bare skin head to be in this group......but you can if you want...

    I'm confused. When do you become a skinhead??? When you shave your head or when you begin the philosophy?

    WHo was the first ones to say "We are skinheads" ? Why does everyone want to be a skinhead even though their philosophies and views are different? If you're your own different group wouldn't you make a different name for yourself.......something original and not to be confused with something else?


    I don't mean any disrespect. I really am asking the questions above with an open mind. They're just the first questions that popped into my head when I started reading this thread.

    I have so much more I could say but my replies are always to long

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    For me it was meeting people, going to meetings and understanding the ideals, beliefs etc.

    I never got into sharp to be "cool" and nor do they let people that are simply doing it for a "trend" to step in.

    I doubt anyone watched American History X and though " gee I want to bea nazi skin "

    For those that want to know... here is some info.

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    I guess I'm just confused on where the line is drawn between pride for your race/heritage and being racist? Is there a way to be proud of who you are without being degrading to other cultures/races? Is it wrong to have White Pride or is that always taken out of context? Can you have Black Pride without being seen as a gangsta?

    I'm always walking on eggshells when these conversations come up so that I don't offend anyone.

    And Tart, I thought American History X was more of an anti-nazi skinhead sort of message. Did I miss the point of the movie?

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    I just want to shout out a big THANKYOU for those of you who answered my request for more information on this subject.

    After reading the links provided to me here and in PM's I have learned that I have much more in common with the non Nazi-ish factions of this culture then I ever could have imagined. In particular this part of the last link Tart provided:

    The new breed

    There is a growing section of the skinhead movement who are not only anti-racist, but also strongly left-wing. Many of us are anarchists, socialists, communists and anti-fascists. In addition to fighting racism, we fight against sexism and homophobia (the verbal, physical and psychological attacks on gays and lesbians). We fight against war, against attacks on the poor and working class (such as strikebreaking, cutbacks etc.), against imperialist intervention, police brutality and prisons. We fight for a better world based on our beliefs.

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