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    Default Re: "Its a STRIP CLUB not a BROTHEL.......Fool!"

    management does nothing about people who solicit you, they do not even tell them to stop, what do u do about that?

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    Default Re: "Its a STRIP CLUB not a BROTHEL.......Fool!"

    Quote Originally Posted by delyla_blue
    management does nothing about people who solicit you, they do not even tell them to stop, what do u do about that?
    Find a club that does.

    "What are your policies and proceedures for removing customers who inappropriately propostition entertainers?" should be a question you ask every manager prior to your audition. If they don't have an answer you like, find a new club.

    My typical response for custies looking for more than legal entertainment is, "Pumpkin, I'm too pretty for that."

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlythebest
    "What came first,the chicken or the egg???"
    To answer this we must understand that existence preceeds essence. Therefore, with the egg being the essence of a chicken, and the chicken being, well, a chicken... we must come to the conclusion that the chicken came first.

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    Default Re: "Its a STRIP CLUB not a BROTHEL.......Fool!"

    I believe that over 90% of the strip clubs have incompetent, non-caring, narcissistic, corrupted management that plays Russian Roulette with their club's license, reputation, and the well-being of its workers.

    Seems to me that any club mgt wanting to be reputable and safe and profitable for its workers would have signs informing newbie customers of club policies and laws. Also the doormen would inform seemingly new customers of the basics of these and consequences to them if they do not follow the policies. Doesn't mean that all would follow them, especially the drunks, but it would help with training many newbies at least. Plus it would help somewhat with the clubs reputation in the police area.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Default Re: "Its a STRIP CLUB not a BROTHEL.......Fool!"

    I believe that over 90% of the strip clubs have incompetent, non-caring, narcissistic, corrupted management that plays Russian Roulette with their club's license, reputation, and the well-being of its workers.
    But the real world situation usually is that the club's license is practically never actually in jeopardy, and that the clubowner is virtually immune to prosecution (the club's attorney can always throw the local DA a dancers' plea bargain in exchange for dropping charges against the clubowner). The clubowners recognize that if they turn a blind eye while dancers do 'extras', that the club profits from the extra private dance/VIP room sales while the dancers take essentially 100% of the risk. The clubowner also recognizes that, these days, there is no shortage of dancers knocking on the club's front door as long as the club offers good earnings potential for dancers (even if 'extras' are part of the bargain), such that any 'clean' girls who threaten to quit over other girls doing 'extras' are actually better off being replaced with more 'extras' girls from a club's share of private dance/VIP earnings standpoint.

    90% of club managements may indeed be 'corrupt' by wanting to profit from the increased sales of 'extras' girls, but they are not stupid or careless about it. The clubowners know where the actual risks lie, and they also know what a good attorney (and a few well- placed contributions) can achieve in keeping the club/clubowner 'insulated' from potential legal/license problems. As to the 'well-being of its workers', as long as there are new girls knocking on the club's front door most clubowners consider current dancers to be 'expendable' if they make too much noise or sell too few private dances / VIP sessions.

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    Default Re: "Its a STRIP CLUB not a BROTHEL.......Fool!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie
    But the real world situation usually is that the club's license is practically never actually in jeopardy, and that the clubowner is virtually immune to prosecution ... 90% of club managements may indeed be 'corrupt' by wanting to profit from the increased sales of 'extras' girls, but they are not stupid or careless about it. The clubowners know where the actual risks lie, and they also know what a good attorney (and a few well- placed contributions) can achieve in keeping the club/clubowner 'insulated' from potential legal/license problems.
    It is true that if anyone has their hands on the pulse of the legal heartbeat, it is the club owners. Or should be but not always so. Locally the club north of here (Studio) way out in the sticks lost its liquor license and is remaking itself as a nude club. So it is an hazardous world when one is on the sharp edge of the razor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie
    As to the 'well-being of its workers', as long as there are new girls knocking on the club's front door most clubowners consider current dancers to be 'expendable' if they make too much noise or sell too few private dances / VIP sessions.
    It is my concern that the dancers get a better situation and are not treated as sacrificial pawns in the maneuvering. Things would have to change a lot for that to be happening, and thaose changes won't happen on their own.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KittenCaboodle

    So now when someone asks for sex I just point to him & say "Thats my pimp, go work out a price with him" most get the joke & walk off but others stupid/drunk or both who honestly believe me receive a thundering loud 3min lectured (by a 7ft black guy built like a gorilla) on the diffrence between a strip club & a brothel, respect & throwing his ass out if he plays up again
    That is GENIUS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wakko0129
    To answer this we must understand that existence preceeds essence. Therefore, with the egg being the essence of a chicken, and the chicken being, well, a chicken... we must come to the conclusion that the chicken came first.
    So you think,eh???
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    It is true that if anyone has their hands on the pulse of the legal heartbeat, it is the club owners. Or should be but not always so. Locally the club north of here (Studio) way out in the sticks lost its liquor license and is remaking itself as a nude club. So it is an hazardous world when one is on the sharp edge of the razor.
    Isn't that club located in a town where the mayor just got busted for corruption ? I suspect that the clubowner thought that he had the situation under control (bought and paid for LOL) but when the club's political 'patron' was led away in handcuffs it left the club wide open to a fresh 'attack' by local political opposition. It's really a shame these days that you can't count on local politicians to 'stay bought' LOL !

    It is my concern that the dancers get a better situation and are not treated as sacrificial pawns in the maneuvering. Things would have to change a lot for that to be happening, and thaose changes won't happen on their own
    Those changes won't happen AT ALL as long as the dancers aren't financially and legally prepared to deal with the DA and court system independently from the clubowner and club attorney. However, this would mean that every dancer must be prepared to pony up say $500 in bail money plus $1000 in legal retainer out of their own pockets on a moment's notice should they be busted - which simply isn' going to happen in 99% of cases. In the vast majority of cases, dancers are very willing to avoid spending money out of their own pockets, are very willing to go along with whatever sort of plea bargain arrangement the club's attorney proposes in exchange for the club paying their bail and legal fees, and in doing so dancers offer themselves up as pawns to help the clubowner get off 'scot free'.
    Last edited by Melonie; 12-05-2005 at 12:21 AM.

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    Default Re: "Its a STRIP CLUB not a BROTHEL.......Fool!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie
    Isn't that club located in a town where the mayor just got busted for corruption ? .... It's really a shame these days that you can't count on local politicians to 'stay bought' LOL !.
    Nope. The corruption (underage prostitution scandal) you mentioned is in Oswego by the lake; that place has no clubs. The Studio is south of Fulton; no publicized scandals are going on there of a political nature. I don't know the reason they lost it, but earlier in the year someone there was arrested raided for drug possession. That has been going on a long time and maybe it finally caught up with them (don't know really, they have video monitors).


    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie
    Those changes won't happen AT ALL as long as the dancers aren't financially and legally prepared to deal with the DA and court system independently from the clubowner and club attorney. However, this would mean that every dancer must be prepared to pony up say $500 in bail money plus $1000 in legal retainer out of their own pockets on a moment's notice should they be busted - which simply isn' going to happen in 99% of cases. In the vast majority of cases, dancers are very willing to avoid spending money out of their own pockets, are very willing to go along with whatever sort of plea bargain arrangement the club's attorney proposes in exchange for the club paying their bail and legal fees, and in doing so dancers offer themselves up as pawns to help the clubowner get off 'scot free'.
    Agreed here. The dancers mostly are too independent for their own good. They could make up a powerful and influential force if they collaborated in some strong way against club mgt and in contributing to a dancer defense fund. "united we stand; divided we fall."
    Last edited by threlayer; 12-05-2005 at 10:46 AM. Reason: typos
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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