DancerWealth Seminar

[Yekhefah]

I'm thinking of attending the live DancerWealth seminar in Vegas in December, but DAMN, that's a lot of money. I just subscribed to the newsletter. I know I'm not making a fraction of what I could be making, and I really need to learn how to make more, but a THOUSAND DOLLARS? It says you can bring a "free guest," which means I have to find someone to pay $450 and go with me. That's still a fuckload of money to me. Is it really a worthwhile investment or will the newsletter be enough?

[mollyzmoon]

I know it sounds like so much, but I'm really thinking of trying it too...it would pay for itself in a month or two even if it only raises my average by %10. However, I think I'll hold off on an investment vacation to vegas until I am 21 and can enjoy it!

[Emily]

if you want to improve your sales skills without spending a lot of money, get a few sales books, or better yet.....check them out at the library.

I took the class a year ago and I can say it paid for itself many times over since then. Does he still do the teleconfrence? if so, try that.

[britneyireland]

I took the class 2 years ago and it was hands down the best investment I made in my dancing career. It gave me an entirely different perspective on this industry. If you can't make it to the seminar, I think you can purchase an audio recording of the last teleconference from the website.

[242_fair]

The class is helpful. If you are a newbie and clueless and you think you need the help, you should ckeck it out.

But I know what mollyz is making and she is not the kind of dancer who needs the course.

If you regularly make far less than other girls in your club, take the class. If you regularly make under $300, take the class.

BUT, If you are in the middle-top or the top moneymaker at your club, don't think DW is going to give you secret info to increase your average much more.

If you can pull off $1000 nights on your own, and it's not just a fluke, you already know what you are doing and you don't need the class.

I'm glad I took it, because it's part motivational. When I need a boost, I can listen to Adam's CD (cd #6 in my car changer for 5+ months) and it picks me up a bit.

Also, if you feel you are in a slump, take the class.

But yes $1000 is a lot, plus you need to get to Vegas and stay there and god knows you're going to end up going to the casino and the shows... adds up.

[Emily]

If you can pull off $1000 nights on your own, and it's not just a fluke, you already know what you are doing and you don't need the class.

this I agree with

BUT, If you are in the middle-top or the top moneymaker at your club, don't think DW is going to give you secret info to increase your average much more.

I don't really agree with....I think his class isn't being about the best in your club, but the best you can be, period. If you feel like you have a hard time closing a sale, upselling to VIP, or keeping guys in the VIP room for long periods of time, then his class is for you. If you also want to work on creating a set of "regulars", this can help.

[mollyzmoon]

BUT, If you are in the middle-top or the top moneymaker at your club, don't think DW is going to give you secret info to increase your average much more.

If you can pull off $1000 nights on your own, and it's not just a fluke, you already know what you are doing and you don't need the class.

I am in the upper echelon of earners at our club, but it has a lot to do with all the good advice I've gotten here....but I do agree with you- the nights where I make over $700, I am dancing in the back basically the whole time, and I leave with the sense of having taken all the money I physically could have earned at $20/dance. Making a whole lot more than that would not be possible unless I move out of town to a place where dances cost more, or VIPs are offered.

[Yekhefah]

I don't think the expense of going to Vegas is a huge deal; I would just drive out there for the day. It sounds like I do need the class though. I only make $150-200 on a typical Friday night and I know there are a lot of girls who make more than that. I just need to learn how!

I'll look for the CD's if it's really just as good. It sounds like it would be a worthwhile investment.

[Emily]

unless it's changed, the CD is just a supplement to the class

[242_fair]

I don't think the expense of going to Vegas is a huge deal; I would just drive out there for the day. It sounds like I do need the class though. I only make $150-200 on a typical Friday night and I know there are a lot of girls who make more than that. I just need to learn how!

Well in that case you are the perfect student for the class, and you should make it to the seminar this month so you can try out your skills before the holiday lull kicks in!!

[GoldCoastGirl]

The 'live seminar' is only one way to learn what DancerWealthTraining teaches.

The HSC (Home Study Course) is just as viable however DWT is only selling 500 copies of this course (and I'm naturally assuming that less than 300 are left to be sold already).

The teleconference seminar is no longer. The HSC has replaced that service/product.

As for the CD a previous person was speaking of/about... yes, it was a complimentary CD.

IMHO, if you find attending the 'live seminar' not viable... the HSC is your best second option. Besides the fact that the purchase is a tax deduction (it's a business expense), you will increase your income.... it took 3 months for a really noticable increase in my income (after I did the live seminar).

Basically, it took me 3 months to "get it" and once that light switches on... it doesn't really switch off. I can honestly now go to any club and be confident enough to know I will make money (never walking out in the negative unless something is seriously wrong).

[Yekhefah]

I'll make it a point this weekend to make enough to buy the home class.

My 6-week pole class starts this weekend too, and next weekend I am taking a three-hour floorwork class. By the time I really buckle down and get serious after the New Year (and probably start dancing full-time), I should be all set!

[Spacey]

how do i obtain the home study course from dancerwealth?

[britneyireland]

Spacey, you can buy it at www.dancerwealth.com

Goldcoastgirl, I agree, it takes a while to learn how to apply the sales strategies to your own unique club situation, once you "get it" it's amazing! Last night I broke my "personal best" record at my current club simply from using positive statements and assumptive sales. It was a perfect textbook sale! I wish I could have recorded it!

Yekhefah, pole and floor dance classes are fun, but if money is the issue, invest in the sales training first. The basic concept of dw is upselling i.e. selling VIP instead of regular floor dances. Being a shrewd saleswoman has very little to do with pole tricks. Sure it looks neat and you get a bunch of catcalls and wadded up singles thrown at you...but 9 times out of 10 the girl who is making the most $$ has bought herself OFF stage and is sitting in VIP sipping her drink NOT doing dances.

All you other veterans in here will agree: You can be the best dancer, have the best body, or have a the most fun personality in the club....and still make the least amount of money simply because you lack the skills to negotiate and close a sale. In Yekefah's case, she may draw a lot of attention to herself from a great stage show; but until she learns how to use it as leverage to close a more lucrative VIP deal her profit margin will only be a bit higher than the club's earning ceiling.

[Tina]

I took the class as well and it teaches you various ways to sell and how to dress to draw more attention in the club.

He also teaches ways to sell in different club formats. For instance in clubs that don't have VIP rooms but get a lot of stage time you'll learn how to sell guys off stage.

The key ultimately is talking guys who are hesitant into buying dances.

Most of us took the class when the price was much cheaper but that was before the home study class.

EVERY dancer needs this course but dancers in general DO NOT take this business as seriously as an office job. Really club owners need to be involved in pushing dancers to take the class, and they need a class themselves on how to set up their clubs so that dances and stage tips will flow easier. If that happened the cost of the class would probably drop to what it was in its beginning stages.

[britneyireland]

As usual, you are right on target Tina

[Emily]

yes, I agree totally with Tina and especially britney's comment about dancing/floorwork being unimportant. Those pole dance classes are a waste of money, imo. If a guy wants to see acrobatic, he'll go to a figure skating competition. if he wants a hot girl to treat him like a rock star, he'll go to a strip club.

[TarynJolie]

If a dancer is complete newbie then this course is useful

[FBR]

I'm speaking as an outsider so please forgive me for that. Back in the day before I bought the company where I worked for 20 years, I was in face to face, give me the fuckin order Mr Customer sales. It is an extremely emotional and draining occupation but also incredibly rewarding. I attended many motivational seminars over the years. I always picked up a few helpful hints and tidbits on the mechanics of my job but the big benefit I received was getting all fired up and motivated to sell like a mutha. Being around a group of your peers, bonding, learning and having fun can be a powerful motivator. Up to you to put a price tag on that and decide if its worth it or not.

Good luck

FBR

[Lizette]

I took the DW course. I now can close within one song. That's right: One song. Five minutes. I was an upper earner before. Currently I am super upper earner because of all that time saved from using my secret stash of Power Closes and Stripper Influence Techniques.

[FBR]

I took the DW course. I now can close within one song. That's right: One song. Five minutes. I was an upper earner before. Currently I am super upper earner because of all that time saved from using my secret stash of Power Closes and Stripper Influence Techniques.

LOL The only problem is, many customers have taken sales courses and recognize closing techniques. They will deftly counter your moves.

Damn its fun to understand the underlying activities

FBR

[Lizette]

LOL The only problem is, many customers have taken sales courses and recognize closing techniques. They will deftly counter your moves.

Damn its fun to understand the underlying activities

FBR

It's funny you say this. Customers who work in sales are either great customers or difficult customers. The great ones spend the most money I've ever seen. They see it as an unwinding experience and let the dancers take care of them for hours upon hours upon hours upon hours. Salesman are, hands down, my best customers. However, some salemen make my job hell.

The difficult ones refuse to buy from anyone -- REFUSE. They come in with the mentality that they can't be sold. It's a power trip for them. This is how they feel important. They don't want to buy dances, and they say that there is no way of convincing them. If they reject a dance, I up the pressure. They will not waste my time. I am not a pawn. If I sat with you and you can not give me a solid condition why you absolutely cannot have a dance, I'm selling you a dance. I use the "I thought you liked me" close, the "I really like you" close, the "My feelings are so hurt" close. You get the idea. They see me sad and they cave. 100% success rate.

I only play vulnerable, hurt female with the Mr. Difficult Salesmen because I have a feeling that it is exactly what they want.

[Emily]

LOL The only problem is, many customers have taken sales courses and recognize closing techniques. They will deftly counter your moves.

Damn its fun to understand the underlying activities

FBR

the secret is out! we're trying to close a sale.....shhhhhh!

[GoldCoastGirl]

If a dancer is complete newbie then this course is useful

I disagree. I wasn't a complete newbie when I decided to invest in the live seminar (remember I'm from Australia). It gave 'my game' a really great 'lift' and I have not been the same since. Now I have the confidence of being able to work in any club environment (even if its set up isn't the best for sales) and leave with (at bare minimum) $200.

Or so it has worked out for me.

That's the great thing about the HSC and/or live seminar, it isn't JUST for newbies ... it's great to help even those who have been 'in the game' for awhile.

This is how I see it: if you learn or gain just one skill out of the HSC or live seminar, it was worth its money and then some. As that one skill you just learnt/gained, will probably 'lift your game' to where you want it to be.

[GoldCoastGirl]

the secret is out! we're trying to close a sale.....shhhhhh!

Yeh.. we're very very naughty! We really shouldn't do that .. hey?

If someone pulls out the "you'd make a great car salesperson" (or similiar) line on me.. I thank them for the compliment (it kinda gets them off-guard sometimes) and tell them how much I am actually enjoy-ing my time with them... and well.. I am here to work so if they're not interested in purchasing a dance from me right now (touching thigh or something)... I loved spending time with them but must move on..