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    I don't think he was trolling, and I think anyone who posts like this and turns out to be tell the truth deserves a level of respect based upon that.

    I shared my first SC experience to show that we are all silly our first time. I often wonder what MW/Mr. Punk/Sporty/FBR where like in their first days.

    Heh, the reason why people dissect posts like this is because normally, the poster would like someone to read as deeply into it the lap dance as they did. And I think responses like the ones he got are good because people get to see really quickly that they really bought into the fantasy, and truth, let alone the truth they are looking for, is harder to find than you think.

    Quote Originally Posted by JC2006
    I am not sure why some posters in this thread chose to dissect your post like they did. It seemed like a typical first "lapdance" experience with the exception of you offering her a bite to eat afterwards.
    It was a typical first lapdance experience, but what he needed was clarification on what was. Now maybe he'll be the type that gets a few dances and offers a bite to eat because he wants to, not because he's uncomfortable with the LD.

    believe it or not, its ok to do that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Totoro
    2) I doubt that grinding against my crotch for a tip is legal. If that is what I wanted, I would have gone to a prostitute and not a club.
    Oh my god. Dude... I am so glad I was not drinking anything when I read that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastridonicus

    I shared my first SC experience to show that we are all silly our first time. I often wonder what MW/Mr. Punk/Sporty/FBR where like in their first days.
    Actually my first days were pretty lame. A business buddy in Indianapolis introduced me to clubbing and we spent quite a bit of time hitting various clubs there. I didnt have a clue what I was doing and the fucker never warned me of the pitfalls. I wound up settling in at a particular club with a certain dancer. In hindsite, she wasnt all that hot but Id never had tits-in-the-face before so it was woo-hoo party time for me. This went on for 6 months or so, me getting ho-hum dances (in retrospect) from her while the clip-board troll was writing down every one so the club could get its cut. Eventually, I woke up and started hinting to her about OTC. We did have a few meals together and hit a Jazz club downtown once, but it didnt amount to anything. I started backing off and she got persistent. I had given her my cell number and she started calling me constantly. When she asked me to co-sign for a car loan I decided it was time to move on.

    I took a few months off, but I was hooked and wound up going back again. I found a different club that I liked and started haning out there. I spent quite a bit of money on different dancers and I guess word travels fast. Within a few months, I met the dancer Ive referred to here as my Indy ATF. It was one of those "accidental" meetings. I was just hanging out at the bar drinking and bullshiting with the bartender and a couple of the other customers. This hot strippers comes up by herself and orders a drink. I say Hi. She says Hi. We get to talking and the first thing you know... Of course, it wasnt accidental on her part. She had been scoping me out for weeks. Within a few club visits she was my favorite and I became her club property (and all the other dancers knew it LOL). We started out doing a dances and VIP's but eventually it wound up where I would visit, we'd hang out and she'd make good money for her time. Sounds PL on the surface but by then we had already moved into OTC. FTB on the details but it was awesome. And I really liked her.

    If it seems too perfect to be true, it probably is. I'm liking things here. I have my world in Ohio and I assume she has hers in Indy. Im going along in my happy way when I get the phone call that she has left her husband. Holy Shit! I actually tried to talk her down but it doesnt work. Over the next few days I scramble the money together to get her into an apartment. I thought she would appreciate that but she seemed none too happy. Strange... (not really...I finally figured out what was up). I made myself scarce for a while. We talked on the phone a few times but you could have cut the tension with a knife. When I finally made it back to the club, the bartender told me that she was talking trash about me. Possibly deserved..Im not sure who was playing who but an exit stage right seemed to be the best strategy.

    I took a nine month hiatus after that. During that time, I stumbled across this site. I lurked for a while and then wound up posting and getting to know the members. First thing you know Im at it again, but at a local club. I had already decided to stay the hell outta Indy. Met Miss J who was a player at the club and introduced me to a ton of other dancers. Eventually, the "flockettes" then Miss B (and the subsequent drama) and now Miss D, previously at the old club and now at the new club. I've settled into a pace I can deal with. Miss D has zero interest in boyfriend drama so we just hook up at the club and OTC and have fun. I'm having a great time. Shes about one year from getting her Doctorate and will move on then Im sure. That saddens me when I think about it but Im getting to the age where its hard to remember the fun anyways

    Oops I think I hijacked the thread Sorry about that. Glad Jay is out of town with minimal internet access so he doesnt feel compelled to edit

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    I used to spend less and enjoy dancers more.

    I met my first fave the second time in my first club. She had just started the minute I saw her, two days removed from a bank teller job. We'd sit at the high table in a corner, she in a black mini-dress with no sides. I slid my hand in and asked where the no-touch zone started on a bald cookie. She said, "Just above my clit hood." Then I asked what would happen if I went into the NTZ.

    She said, "I'd warn you."
    I asked what would happen if I did it again.
    She said, "I'd warn you; that's all I'd ever do."

    I'd buy her fried Mozzarella sticks for lunch. She'd try to eat them while I played with her clit. Sometimes her mouth would open and she'd drool cheese. The bouncer on the other side of the room would give us his "I'll find you and burn your fuckin house down" stare, but he never came over.

    She would never take more than $60 (for four dances), no matter how long she stayed with me. I bought her a $5 KMart "gold" cross necklace, and she wore it day and night, even though it turned her neck green.

    I liked her a lot, but she got addicted to Vicodin and arrested for kiting a prescription.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moneywise
    Uhmm... When you respond with a chip what more do you expect to get in return. Try not asking questions if you aren't prepared for the responses or posting here as if you are looking for a shower of approval flowers.
    I think the only chip there was one that a reader interpreted to be there. Also, let's remember that the original poster didn't complain about the responses. I think a few people projected unrelated R-I-L experiences onto his simple question - which basically was, "They do that and get away with it? And it's common?" A desire to keep one's private dances and SC interactions very conservative is not tantamount to, nor exclusive behavior of being a R-I-L. Nor is the quest for high mileage or extras tantamount to being a savvy R-not-I-L.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsWriter2
    She would never take more than $60 (for four dances), no matter how long she stayed with me. I bought her a $5 KMart "gold" cross necklace, and she wore it day and night, even though it turned her neck green.
    "Would you believe it! She wore the necklace night and day even though she turned green!

    Would you believe... She wore the necklace for the remainder of her shift?

    Yes, well, how about until she got to the trash can in the dressing room??"


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    Quote Originally Posted by evan_essence
    I think the only chip there was one that a reader interpreted to be there. Also, let's remember that the original poster didn't complain about the responses. I think a few people projected unrelated R-I-L experiences onto his simple question - which basically was, "They do that and get away with it? And it's common?" A desire to keep one's private dances and SC interactions very conservative is not tantamount to, nor exclusive behavior of being a R-I-L. Nor is the quest for high mileage or extras tantamount to being a savvy R-not-I-L.

    -Ev
    Nor is the act of posting without any regard for the location of which you post an act of a R-I-L. Even when I was green I read a little and had a general idea that posting here would get me the informed response from the hardcore blue sider versus posting in customer convo and getting the sarcastic pat on the back "please visit my club" from the pink side. I admire your valiant effort to protect this rather green individual but he didn't post his question on the pink side. Therefore, he should be thick skinned enough to deal with the responses he gets based upon the geographics of his selection. Since when did you become the blue site police?


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    Quote Originally Posted by evan_essence
    Would you believe... She wore the necklace for the remainder of her shift?

    Yes, well, how about until she got to the trash can in the dressing room??"
    She wore it more than three months until it broke. When she kept wearing it, I felt badly about how cheap it was. When it broke, I got a nice one on sale for $99. I went to the club and got my usual hug/kiss greeting. Then she said, "You're going to hate me."

    She turned around and showed me her first tattoo, a black panther on her lower back with the tail disappearing in her butt crack. I didn't dump her, but the necklace never came out of my pocket.

    MW, you already know Ev is Chief of the Independent Contractor Police and head of the Just Say No war on blue ballers. Don't take it personally.

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    Default Re: So this is a private dance?

    There was a redirect in Pink CC pointing the thread to here.

    So what do you guys want to do? We can talk about the on topic first dance experience, maybe give the LD newbie some sincere or even sarcastic advise. Thats OK but the member-to-member pissiness really needs to stop now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evan_essence
    Thank you. Everyone here who's experienced seems to think that there's a menu description of what you get with a private dance posted somewhere in the club. How is a first timer supposed to know?
    but that's the funny thing about his post. from what i can gather. he's not a first timer in a sc. so, he is experienced (at least, experienced in paying strippers to eat and talk) with strippers. yet, he's acting like a green rookie when he should know better. frankly, i find it strange that he's been paying strippers to eat and talk. yet, he acts as if he isn't familiar with the concept of a dance (or even asking a stripper to eat and talk)...i mean, he's never even tried it..not even once....hmmm.
    Quote Originally Posted by evan_essence
    He asked the dancer what a private (note, the dance was characterized as private, not "lap" as some of you seem to be saying should be self-evident what that implies) dance entails and got a vague answer.
    LOL...you know what it's called when, a customer asks a stripper a honest question and he gets a vague answer in return. it's called stripper shit and you ladies shovel it all the time.
    Quote Originally Posted by evan_essence
    He tried to inquire of the dancer. Kinda hard to specify what you want when you didn't know you'd get something that surely isn't legal and weren't told the details.
    no, it isn't difficult at all. if you open your freaking mouth. if he's interested in eating and talking. he should have turned down her offer of a dance and instead offered the stripper money to sit and eat with him. he says he's done it before. why is it so difficult now? oh, that's right. he was drunk and he reluctantly accepted the dance....LOL.
    Quote Originally Posted by evan_essence
    Sure, an opening post of this type could be a troll post, but now that we've seen the followups, this does not appear to be the case this time.
    based on cumulative total of 9 posts? well, i think that remains to be seen. usually, these people disappear or eventually hang themselves.
    Quote Originally Posted by evan_essence
    A desire to keep one's private dances and SC interactions very conservative is not tantamount to, nor exclusive behavior of being a R-I-L.
    no, but a customer not opening his mouth and expecting a stripper to read his mind is tantamount to being a weak-as-dishwater PL.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mastridonicus
    I shared my first SC experience to show that we are all silly our first time. I often wonder what MW/Mr. Punk/Sporty/FBR where like in their first days.
    actually, i never went through any growing pains in the sc. as things turned out, i was hobbying (typically, most customers take the opposite route) before i started going to sc on a regular basis. so, by the time i started going to sc on a regular basis. i had already found my calling as a lecher.
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    Geez, some of you lot can be a friendly bunch to newcomers eh. Glad I didn't get this sort of treatment with my first post. Not that it would've bothered me much, I've got a fairly thick skin.

    Just my two pence, but the best way to deal with trolling posts is usually to ignore them, unless one is bored and looking for sport...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neville
    Just my two pence, but the best way to deal with trolling posts is usually to ignore them, unless one is bored and looking for sport...

    That's pretty much the reason I'm here....
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    Quote Originally Posted by FBR
    Thats OK but the member-to-member pissiness really needs to stop now.
    The fuschia police should never have to bite its tongue this frickin' hard. But if you insist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miabella
    to be fair, lilith, he could be one of the small percentage of customers who likes to pay for hanging out at a similar rate to what would be paid for lapdance after lapdance. some guys will do 20/song to talk or pay you to eat there at the club with them and not be jerks about it.
    Exactly, you can only see the ass go clockwise then counter-clockwise then recede then approach so many times before it feels like groundhog day. Don't knock the customers who pay money for LD AND conversation.

    Knock the cheapies not the payors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Totoro
    I was a little drunk at the time. The girl asked me if I had ever had a dance before. I told her that I had not. I asked what the rules were. She said it was private, she would be closer to me, there could be touching. I reluctantly agreed.
    I don't fully understand what your issues are with this situation, but this how I break it down.

    It's called a lapdance for a reason. There is touching. If that makes you feel guilty or you don't want to be touch, don't buy lapdances in the future, or make it clear to the dancer you just want to look. If you have trouble making decisions when drunk, dont't drink.

    But most of us like to be touched and that's what we are paying for.

    As for breaking the law, this is the reality of the situation. Most lapdancers push the limits of the law, often quite far beyond the limits. If you feel guilty about breaking the law, or are worried about being arrested, well don't do it then or explain your limits up front. No lapdancer will care if you say you just want to look but no touching. Lapdancers push the limits of the law because it works, it's what keeps customers coming back for more, paying more. Me, I think laws are made by people for people, and some laws are useless or nearly so. As long as the lapdancer and you are not being hurt I personally couldn't care less about the law.

    If you're concern here is that you've built up some image in your mind about who/what this girl is, some kind of stepford wife imagery, if you're confusing her with a girl friend, the kind of girl you'd idolize, some imagery of perfection who'd never break the law, stop now. Whatever imagery you're building of her, it's all in your head. She doesn't care about you or think about you, and she isn't who she pretends to be in the stripclub. If you want her to play out the fantasy of the "good girl, law abiding citizen" she'll play that fantasy for you but that's all it is, fantasy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sitri
    Exactly, you can only see the ass go clockwise then counter-clockwise then recede then approach so many times before it feels like groundhog day. Don't knock the customers who pay money for LD AND conversation.

    Knock the cheapies not the payors.
    Really, I'm dying to know how earth logic brought you to include Totoro in the ranks of "payors" who pay for dances and conversation. There's something... no, wait, it's gone. I'm sure I'll think of it though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xdamage
    I don't fully understand what your issues are with this situation, but this how I break it down.

    It's called a lapdance for a reason. There is touching. If that makes you feel guilty or you don't want to be touch, don't buy lapdances in the future, or make it clear to the dancer you just want to look. If you have trouble making decisions when drunk, dont't drink.
    Yeah, this won't often happen: I agree. A dancer isn't likely to mind if you don't want to to touch her - she might be somewhat bewildered because, honetly, that isn't the way most guys prefer it. But she is not married to the idea of your hands all over her breasts - she is more married to the idea of $20 bills. Of course, be prepared for a lousy dance because the contact is a big part of our routine now. I realized the other day that I've entirely forgotten how to do a lapdance. All I can remember is grind, grind, grind (interspersed with bending over to show him my ass). It's boring as all hell (I seriously don't get how I have customers) and if you took the grinding away I'd be completely screwed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    I realized the other day that I've entirely forgotten how to do a lapdance. All I can remember is grind, grind, grind (interspersed with bending over to show him my ass). It's boring as all hell (I seriously don't get how I have customers) and if you took the grinding away I'd be completely screwed.
    Well, there's always the "inside the crotch leg rub" move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    A dancer isn't likely to mind if you don't want to to touch her - she might be somewhat bewildered because, honetly, that isn't the way most guys prefer it.
    I don't relate to his issues with being touched, but so be it. Just ask, the dancer will gladly oblige if your preference is not to be touched (unusual as it is).

    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    All I can remember is grind, grind, grind (interspersed with bending over to show him my ass). It's boring as all hell (I seriously don't get how I have customers) and if you took the grinding away I'd be completely screwed.
    Depending on the person, it wouldn't surprise me to find some dancers for which the grind is easier (though boring) then having to talk and maintain a pretense of being interested.

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    i hate grinding in a dance except very briefly. it is deeply boring and there is so much else i could be doing to a nice gentleman during the course of my entertainment. i don't think it is nasty or dirty, just dull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xdamage
    Depending on the person, it wouldn't surprise me to find some dancers for which the grind is easier (though boring) then having to talk and maintain a pretense of being interested.
    I agree, it is a lot easier for some girls. I don't wind up spending much time with dancers like that. If a dancer is really working me-eye contact, hands touching in all the right places etc, etc, I get a little dissappointed when she turns around and sits on my crotch.

    I'm fully aware that the mindless ass-on-crotch grind is what many guys want and that's probably why so many dancers just do it until the guy messes his undies and then move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    All I can remember is grind, grind, grind (interspersed with bending over to show him my ass).
    and don't forget to put a vacant, vapid look in your eyes (i like that in a stripper) and try keep your mouth shut. well..you can say "duh" every once in a while.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    It's boring as all hell (I seriously don't get how I have customers) and if you took the grinding away I'd be completely screwed.
    noooo...i'm sure your charming personality will take up the slack.
    Quote Originally Posted by xdamage
    Depending on the person, it wouldn't surprise me to find some dancers for which the grind is easier (though boring) then having to talk and maintain a pretense of being interested.
    nobody cares..frankly, if given a choice between my gratification versus a stripper's boredom. that's going to be one bored stripper. if you let a stripper tell it. every stripper will say she gives a good lap dance. of course, that's not true. so, when a stripper starts to bore me with her routine. i start giving her directions because what's she's currently doing is just not cutting it..
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