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    How much of a tip do you ladies expect for "conversation time" at the table? It takes me a little while to get comfortable enough to ask for a dance, so if I wanted the dancer to sit and talk for 10-15 minutes first, how much of a tip would be considered fair compensation for that time away from the room? Thanks!

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    Tip what she would make doing table-side dances for that amount of time, minus one song. For example, if you want to chat for 15 minurtes, and songs are 3 minutes each, that is 5 songs. She would have expected to take one song to chat you up anyway, so tip her for 4 songs.

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    Answers can vary depend upon the club, the price of dances, how busy it is, and the dancer.

    Some clubs actually have a schedule for this. A waitress will ask you to buy the dancer a "drink" in which the dancer gets a majority commission. The higher the price you pay, the more time you get with her.

    Realistically speaking, if I weren't interested in buying dances from a gal, I'd have no reason to have her at my table.

    If you're not going to buy dances, expect to pay 25-100% of the amount that you would have paid had you bought dances. The busier the club, the higher you should pay. If she has more lucrative prospects elsewhere, she'll probably go there.

    If you are going to eventually buy dances, just throw a nice tip on at the end to help compensate for the "off the clock" time she gave you. The more free time you got, the more you should pay.
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    It depends on you. First of all, I applaud you for realizing you should tip. I think a fourty dollar tip would be nice. and then go get some dances!!

    In general, I think if a customer gives me 100 dollars to just sit and talk, that is worth half an hour of my time if he doesn't want any dances. That's not to say that I make 100 dollars every half hour I work, or even a hundred dollars every hour...lol althought that would be nice if I consistently made 200 dollars an hour, tee-hee. That's just the going rate and what I think is fair to me, and fair to the customer. If it's not really busy, I'd probably hang out for 45 minutes, and a cocktail for 100 bucks. Hope that helps.

    Oh, and although some clubs may give the dances commisison on drinks DO NOT assume that they do. I have never worked in a club that has done this, and I have worked in ovcer 20 clubs in 5 different states.

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    Got it . Assuming that it's not a "drink-buying" club, and I do intend do get dances from the girl, I assume the appropriate time to offer the tip would be when she first asked if I wanted a dance, but I wanted to chat for a bit more (I know, it's kind of weird to want to go into a club to TALK, but sometimes my reason for going is when I need a little cheering up, and that entails me talking). That way she wouldn't get antsy and think I was trying to get her time for free ^_^; .

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    honestly, I'd appreciate a tip, but if you planned on buying a few dances, I wouldn't mind sitting with you for 10-15 minutes for free. I do this all the time for guys I know will buy dances.

    We realize we're not going to be making money every single moment.

    I think $20 per song is a VERY generous tip. I'm more along the thought of $20 for about 3 songs, or $100 an hour for conversation. This is my personal goal at work (to make $100 an hour after fees.)

    I think the best thing to do is say, "I'm not ready for a dance yet, but don't go far" and hand her a $20. Most dancers realize you want her to stay and chat for awhile and aren't being cheap. Then you can offer her a drink.

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    if i'm mainly interested in talking to dancers, should i go at less busy times? when would be good times to go, so the dancers won't feel pressured to move on?
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    that would be nice Venus, but remember, no matter what you want from a dancer, you need to pay her. It would be taking advantage of her to expect her to talk to her for free...regardless of how slow it is

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    I don't believe in tipping for conversation. If I want a dance, then so be it and only then will conversation time pay off for a dancer.



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    I don't know what anybody else does, but if she's sitting with me, and I want her to sit and chat with me, at the expense of her doing dances, I'll tip her $20 every so often. Might be 20 minutes, might be 10 minutes.

    If the conversation moves to buying a VIP dance, I'll usually end up buying 3 or 4. If I didn't tip her before we went to the VIP, I'll tip her afterwards.

    If she's a really good friend (of which I've had 2), I'll smile, tip her $40 or $50, give her a kiss on the cheek, and be on my way. I'm not there to see her dance.

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    Most guys don't tip for conversation. You don't tip the guy trying to sell you a car if you aren't interested do you? Some do though, and will probably take the initiative themselves. This is why I move to close after 1 song, 2 at the MOST. If they ask me to wait one more song and chitchat, that's cool, but that's IT. I am moving on. But that's my hustle style, don't depend on that "dream" customer that pays you to sit there and be cute, they are few and far between.

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    I have never heard of being tipped for convo... I get a feel of the custy within a few minutes.. I had to laugh tonight I went to sit in the smoking room and have a smoke.. I sat down with a guy he looked at me and said 'not now maybe later' I laughed and said 'how do you know I want a dance' hes like 'well dont all girls ask for one right away?' anyway I ended up talking to him for about half an hour then he took me to VIP and bought 8 dances from me... I didnt get tipped for convo but it paid off later. Most dancers dont expect convo tip... but if you want to thats really sweet of you

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    ive never been tipped for talking to a custie, and if i would ask, i am sure i wold be laughed at.

    in my area, its fairly unheard of sadly.

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    If you are not sure than maybe you should check with the waitress when you are ordering a drink... Usually they will explain the etiquette for that club...

    Where I work we don't sell LD (DC law) so the only way I can make $$ is either on stage (which doesn't contribute significantly to my earnings on most sets (like ~20) or when I do a tip walk (say thank yous) after my set (again, not a huge contributer)...

    So... Where I work, I do make my $$$ sitting with a customer. I would never ask a customer for a tip (well every once in a while ), so if I realize that my income potential looks bleak, usually I will move on. However, there are a few people who don't really tip well, but I enjoy their conversations so I might stay for a lil while just to have a drink...

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    I think tipping for convo only applies when the customer is really enjoying your company and knows when he does spend $$$ its going to be on you but maybe is the type that needs to "warm up " a bit, a little light conversation, a cocktail or two etc...... So the tip is a way of making sure that he knows your time is valuable and even though he isn't ready for dances yet, you'll be around when he does. Here in Vegas i've seen both extremes... guys that laugh in my face when I mention this or hand me 2 or 3 crumpled dollar bills or guys that will buy me a drink chat for a few minutes than hand me a 100$ bill and say "thank you for your time but I'm ok right now" or "you're beautiful but I like blonds" etc. Both extremes are not uncommon.

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    I never ask for a tip for sitting with a guy , then again, I never ask for tips in general. That ( to me) is like begging and I wont. Stubborn Irish me, I guess.. then again, I find when I don't ask they tip me more.

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    I only do it in a local club where the private dances are useless, no contact, no privacy. On top of that, the house gets $10 a dance out of $20 during the dayshift (when I go). Instead of buying air dances I'll tip a fav $20 or $40 to spend an hour or so chatting at the bar. It's more money in their pocket than they are going to make working the room for dances since almost none of the customers buy dances. Everyone is happy.

    In all of my other regular clubs I go in looking for favs and spend money on them. They sit and talk before and after when they are not busy and work the room when they are. I don't tip them to sit with me.
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    First, you have to decide that, if she can interest you by talking about whatever, would you want to get dances from her anyway. Get that info from looking at her and watching her dance and interact with other customers and maybe staff. Then you should not have to spend much time chatting to see if you then develop some interest in her. TIP - Don't wait beyond very many songs before you either give her some cash or tell her how much and how long.

    Then I have two ways of determining this (if she doesn't demand some specific amount):

    Give her enough so that it doesn't lower her per hour average earning rate. But since it is less intense work than dancing, not enough to increase her rate. And remember that the club likely gets none of that money. (theoretical)

    You could also give her something and see if that keeps her there. (experimental)

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    Quote Originally Posted by threlayer
    First, you have to decide that, if she can interest you by talking abuotr whatever, would you want to get dances from her anyway.
    So if a stripper is interesting to talk to, you wouldn't ALSO want her naked rubbing all over you? Does personality/intelligence negate sexiness for you?

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    Tipping for convo comes into play when you want a girl to hang out with you, but don't want to get dances for a good while, also.

    I mean, if I talk to a guy for 15 minutes, I don't expect a tip immediately or anything like that.

    I would expect a tip if I ask a customer for a dance, and he says "no, I just want to talk to you." At that point, he has to pay me for my time. You know what I'm saying?

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    Never tipped for convo, but then again, never asked for that either. If a girl comes to me and sits down and chats, I figure she is either resting or prospecting. Either way is her choice as to how long she sits before either moving on or asking for a dance. If I enjoyed the convo, and I find her to my liking, then I will get a dance, and I usually tip 5 bucks a dance, and usually get at least 2 or as many 5 dances. If I do not want a dance a simple "No thank you." is offered, but I would not tip at that point. Now, if after the dances, she sits with me or visits with me, then I figure that is just good customer relations. I have said "You can go work the room if you need to." a few times when I think she is talking for a longer time that I am comfortable not paying for, and I am not planning on getting more dances. So far this has seemed to work for me.

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    MD, since you're buying dances eventually, I'd suggest you just tip a bit higher to cover any extra prospecting time you imagine a dancer may have invested in you as she waits out your confidence-building time.

    Honestly, though, I'm having a lot of trouble imagining the need to "build up confidence" to ask for a dance in a club. There is usually little need to ask. It might be a better strategy for you to learn some eye-contact skills, and to pay and tip generously. Then the last thing you will ever need is to ask. For anything.

    If you are in a no-lap club, such as a showbar or a no-contact club, the rules are quite different and you may find it more acceptable to pay for convo. But then, the rules in such clubs (and outside them) are quite different in many other ways, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Other Owner
    Honestly, though, I'm having a lot of trouble imagining the need to "build up confidence" to ask for a dance in a club.
    It's probably not readily apparent since I don't have an avatar, but I'm a girl . Being a female in my twenties, it's hard for me not to empathize a bit with the dancers, and I feel less awkward about the whole affair if I've talked to the girl for a bit. Also, dancers tend to be more reluctant to deal with female customers, so I feel it's important to show them I'm not going to waste their time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine
    So if a stripper is interesting to talk to, you wouldn't ALSO want her naked rubbing all over you? Does personality/intelligence negate sexiness for you?
    Not at all. In fact it makes me more interested in doing dances with her, you know. I can see others that have attractiveness but I like a bit of personality to go with my fantasies. Even when I was younger.

    Forgot to add (my experiences here) that it doesn't take me too long to decide this for an unfamiliar dancer, maybe 2 songs average, just a few bucks. Or even less. Generally it's not required for dancers with whom I've had previous dances; I already know.
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    ok, here's the deal,

    You really gotta stop overanalyzing the play by play and go after the big picture. I mean, don't get me wrong, its great that you asked, but the point is, what are you there for? To have a good time? Or to chat? To Drink? To Eat? To get a LD?

    The point is, put what you want first, and let your money be used to achieve that goal.

    When I go to a new club, normally I'll get approached and no matter what, if I don't like the dancer, they know, and as they go to walk away I'll always tip accordingly and fairly. For example the first dancer ALWAYS gets the questions from me about the club whether I like her or not. I normally tip her the cost of an LD if it takes that long. Others range from 5 to 10.

    When the dancer I am intrigued by the most shows up, I tip her accordingly, accordingly == the baseline of tips is equal to the cheapest time consuming thing on the menu
    I.E. if an LD is 20/song, I tip that or more. I may miss some songs, but I normally ask up front, "Just let me know what it costs to keep you chillin" Note: Some clubs wont even allow them to chat regardless of the price.

    The end point is spending money to have a good time. Its the nature of the beast. Don't over analyze the whole evening and if you're doing is right or wrong. Just be up front, if you wanna chat with a beautiful women, make sure to mention "Let me know how much it costs to keep this conversation going"

    Like I said, you gotta know what you want. I want to relax. Its different daily but a lot of time I want to bs about shit I don't get to bs about. And its kinda cool cause after all thought my lapdances from said dancer are normally incredible.


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