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    Sad PS says I need a lift with BA

    So I finally decided to get real about my quest for boobs. I've been looking all over the internet and heard (read?) so many great things about Dr. DeWire in Richmond, VA that I flew down there today to see him. I was pretty sure I wanted him to be my PS, but I figured a day and $150 in travel costs were a worthy investment since this guy will be putting a knife to my body and charging several thousands for the pleasure!

    Well, I have some sagginess from when I weighed 200lbs (I'm 142 now...5'9") and I was hoping that I could have an implant big enough to fill up the extra skin. He says no way....if I go ahead without a lift they will look terrible. The nipple will be too low and pointing downward. my natural crease is above my nipple.

    One of the reasons I'm interested in Dr. DeWire is because he does the trans-ax method (armpit incision) and I don't want scars. He said he'd still be doing that, but I'd also need a benelli lift, which leaves a ring around the areola. He showed me a bunch of before-and-afters, including a woman who refused a lift from him and came back to him for a redo because they looked bad. I hate the nipple scar. He says you can't see it in strip club lighting. Is that true?

    I'm so bummed out. I really don't want them to look bad and need a redo. I also don't want the boobs I have now. I scheduled the surgery with lift anyway.

    Any experience with lifts? Lots of women on the boob job boards are saying that they were told they needed a lift but declined, went to a doc who gave them a BA, and they looked fine. I also have worked with girls that prob should have gotten a lift but didn't, and they look terrible.

    I attached a picture of them now. You can see how the nip is so low....which is part of the reason I don't like them. And this is with working out and doing lots of chest evercises! I jsut have too much skin, I guess.

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    Default Re: PS says I need a lift with BA

    I had small saggy breasts before my BA and was really lucky to have been able to get my lift correction with just a BA using tear drop shaped cohesive silicone gel implants. My nipples didn't even point frontwards, more down, but I didn't have as much of a distance between bottom of boob and crease line.

    Unfortunately, this is where I can agree with the surgeon and see that a simple BA wont solve your lift issues and just getting a BA risks aggravating the sag factor and displacing your nipples in an undesirable fashion. Getting a lift with a BA is pretty much only reserved to the less endowed where they can pretty much change where your crease line is. Since yours is more defined, there is no way you could change it and get a lift out of it (not sure if I'm explaining this right).

    I wish I could have a miracle solution for you, I know how it feels to be unhappy with your boobs. Personally I think yours look great but what counts is how you feel about them. You'll have to weigh in both ways, staying the way you are and accepting yourself or go for the surgery and accept the scars. Some people scar nicely and if you don't smoke, eat healthy and are in good physical shape chances are you'll be in that category.

    What really sucks about the lift is that damn scar around the areola. Such a prominent place so I really understand the worry about how things will turn out. I don't think it would be all that visible in the dark of a strip club (mine is insanely dark).

    I'd wait on it if I were you. Considering what you got is pretty nice to start with, I wouldn't be wanting to scar it up. Maybe talk to another surgeon for a second opinion.

    Good luck,
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    Default Re: PS says I need a lift with BA

    Seriously, I've seen a lot of boobs done with the nipple incision. personally and I've heard this from guys too that they cant see a scar.. unless of course you point it out and get your nose up in it.

    How do you scar? Some people scar up badly and others don't. I think it will be okay if you take care of yourself ( which I'm sure you will) and use some sort of scar cream or ointment.

    The advice for a second opinion is killer good - perhaps another surgeon that you like? It took me a year to find my Doc and I adore him.

    Then again, it is your body and your choice finally. Good luck!
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    Default Re: PS says I need a lift with BA

    thanks for the kind words, Pixie, but I really want some more volume! I am not comfortable with the volume or the flatness.

    I'm not sure how I scar. I asked the PS about scar creams and he said they are a waste of money. And it's not a nipple incision for the implant. It's jsut for the lift....just cutting the skin, but not going underneath the breast tissue through the nipple. The implant is still going through the armpit. he says it's better that way....less trauma, less risk of infection, and he doesn't have to cut the muscle as much.

    I'm so nervous! I'm going to be a pain in the ass to my friends and you guys up until the surgery...and probably for a few months after.

    I'm excited though. I planned it for Feb 21st because it's going to be $8800 and I don't want to finance or take money out of the bank for them.

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    Default Re: PS says I need a lift with BA

    Looking at your pic I would have thought you have the perfect boobs for an implant without any kind of lift but hey, I'm not a doctor! If it's just a scar around the aereola I don't see how that would be that bad. Just in before and after pics it seems like if there is a little extra skin they come out good.

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    I know you are excited, I am excited for you!

    Remember, you are paying this Doctor for his services, if something bothers you ..... ASK QUESTIONS. I am amazed at how many women just give over their bodies and trust whomever.

    If you want an experienced ear.. or just somebody to blab to, Pm me. I am more than happy to help anybody through their traumatic surgery! Happy Boobies! I can't wait to see how they turn out - which I know will be beautiful.

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    Default Re: PS says I need a lift with BA

    dr dewire has an EXCELLENT reputation. the kind of lift he is suggesting is the less severe kind. i had the nipple insision and you really cant see my scars. i know this is a whole ring but it will fade. some girls use dermablend after they heal but before they have faded. i'm excited for you!
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    Default Re: PS says I need a lift with BA

    Emily, how many consults have you been on? I know Dr. Dewire is highly regarded but have you considered hearing another's opinion?

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    Default Re: PS says I need a lift with BA

    hey,
    ma I don't think you need you need lift, How many cc are you planing to get that really makes a differant, and If your plastic surgeon is talking things you not sure he right about you should start shopping for another one! I think if you don't get a lift you should discuss how many cc you should get! I had my ba done after two kids with no breast lift, and I had breast fed my son.
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    Default Re: PS says I need a lift with BA

    This "you need a lift as well as a BA" is sort of common among PS, there are probably times where it really is required but a lot of times I think it's more a bottom line marketing/money thing IMO.

    If you follow the lift/BA route, you are going to be paying for two procedres, the BA and the lift. If you just had a BA with a bigger implant , most likely over the muscle filling up the "sagginess" it would cost less than getting the lift as well.

    The nipples can be moved to put them in the "right place" if a bigger implant would have them "pointing" wrong/funny. Yes there woud be a scaring issue with that, just as with the lift.

    Then there is this, a lift and smaller implant results in obvoisly less volume and a smaller cup size than if you had just the BA with the bigger implant, and being the at the number one regret among women that have BA's is that they wish they had went bigger and come back (and payagain) for a second time to get that big size that they wanted to begin with.

    If your PS can convince you one way or another to go the route that ends in the smaller cup size the odds that you will come back for that second time are a lot greater.

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    Default Re: PS says I need a lift with BA

    A second opinion is certainly worth looking into, I can vouch for that myself firsthand. When researching surgeons for my BA, I went to one of the most "reputable" BA surgeons in town. I had seen many women sporting his work and he did beautiful work.

    I went for a consult with this said surgeon and left his office a few minutes later crying. He said there was no other way to do it other than doing a lift as well as a BA... I was devastated as I wanted to avoid scars around my areolas too.

    Luckily I had a surgeon friend in California who had just started his plastic surgery internship and after emailing some picks to him he strongly suggested I look for another surgeon. I did and found one that used much newer techniques and implants giving me the results I was looking for with just a BA.

    The reason I don't want to get your hopes up too high is that the posibility of augmenting nicely while giving a lift greatly depends on certain measurements. You just can't fudge this, I know, I was borderline to go for just a BA myself... The critical measurement for getting a good lift out of a BA alone is lowest part of breast to crease. If the distance is too much, a BA cannot lift the breast alone and give a nice shape.

    For a BA to be able to produce a lift, the implant has to be placed at the lower part of the breast so it can add more mass to the bottom and lift the nipple. These BA's are almost always subglandar in order to produce the most lift. Those who have the best results from a BA lift are those with saggy breasts that are somewhat higher up on the chest to allow for reasonable sagging over time.

    I researched and spoke at length with surgeons about these procedures for quite some time before going ahead with my surgery. Nothing can replace good research and preparation!

    The good news is that plastic surgery is one of the fastest growing fields of medicine and they are coming up with newer and better techniques everyday. A few years ago, my BA lift was very new and who knows, maybe there have been more advances since then. Same with scar healing, with the products and ressources we have today scars can be dealt with well, the only question is how long will it take.

    Again good luck and by all means, keep buggin' us with your updates and questions!
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    Default Re: PS says I need a lift with BA

    I'm in the same boat as you Em, but I did PM you with another option.

    If you want anymore info, let me know!
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    Can you have plastic surgery to lessen the scars afterwards? Just a thought. I had a lump removed from my right breast years ago, and though it wasn't a completely circular scar, just about 1/3 around, it was totally unnoticeable after a few months. I just put vitamin E on it. I have to really look closely to see. I think girls sometimes wind up with bad scarring because they don't take care of their skin, but if you don't smoke or tan you should be fine.

    I tend towards the lift but maybe that's cause I want one (without implants though).

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    This bothers me, you say that the doc wants to give you a lift and stillgo through the armpit? that does not make sence. When they go through the arm pit they have to cut muscle. Since your breast tissue is over your muscle, when they give you the lift, no muscle should be cut. If he is cutting up your nipples anyway I would think that he would wantt o put the implant there.

    From what I hear you cant get a lot of lift with a nipple lift. The basic type is the anchor. They cut around your nipple, a line streight under to your crease and then like a little anchor at the bottom, o-) that is the sideways pic. Ther is usually a lot of scarring with the lift.
    This is how my doc did mine: He said that I would get the best results with an anchor lift. He also said that at my age and profession we could find other ways with less scarring to get a good result. So, what we did was went with a little larger implant, went in at the crease, put in round high profile saline implants and then while he was in there he pulled my muscle up some causing my muscle to lift them up. Im not exactly sure what he did to my muscle as it was hard for him to explain, bt he did a very nice job. My scars look great, and they are only about 6 weeks old. The only other girl that I know of that got hers done at my doc, they look awesome, most including myself, can barley tell they are fake except when she tightens her muscle. He does great work. If you are willing to travel, I wuold reccomend my doc, Im in Arkansas. His name is Vanderpool. i paid just under 4 grand. Also, as far as I know, if you get a regular lift with the ba, he does not charge much more, if any. When I got quoted, we agreed that during surgery if he didnt think the muscle movements would fix the problem, he would go ahead with the lift.
    My brests looked similar to yours but not quite that droopy ... sorry .. couldnt find a better word. under the arm is supposed to be one of the more painful recoverys because so much of the muscle has to be cut. Feel free to pm me if you have any questions about my doc or surgery.

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    Default Re: PS says I need a lift with BA

    I'd get a second opinion from another PS. Have you heard anything about a scarless internal lift. I've read about them online. Worth looking into if you have to have a lift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveSexMoney
    Emily, how many consults have you been on? I know Dr. Dewire is highly regarded but have you considered hearing another's opinion?
    this was the only consult I went on and he convinced me I needed the lift. He said the distance from my collarbone to my nipple is too far. he said that the tissue isn't strong enough to hold an implant alone. He also wants the nipple to point straight out. he showed be a before-and-after of a girl with a body exactly like mine and her results are great, if I don't look at the scar.

    He is the guy a lot of girls go to get BA problems fixed....so because he has such a good reputation and he knows what can happen, I trust his judgment. I'm worried that if I shop around to find someone that will do it without a lift, that he will just do it to appease me it won't turn out right. I've seen too many boob jobs with the big bulge on top and downward pointed nipples on the bottom. it's so ugly and I want to avoid that at all costs.

    I like him and I have faith in him. I guess I'm just annoyed because my options are:
    1) stay with the flapjacks
    2) don't get the lift and hope they turn out bad (I imagine I'd have to get huge implants for this too, which I don't really want)
    3) get the lift and deal with the scar


    I already put the deposit down. I'm just ranting, I guess. I am scared it'll turn out all deformed.

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    Default Re: PS says I need a lift with BA

    I've read good things on him from his patients on the implantforum.

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    Me too, I did some research on the man. I think you chose well.

    From the pic you posted I can see that even your natural boobs are well.. large, larger than usual - so having a large implant would not be a bad thing. Plus, I have no idea what you see as "large".

    Another thing, you have some hips - once again, not a bad thing as your Doc will I'm sure give you a good hip to bust ratio. Remember, hes the professional. Plus, someone mentioned Vitamin E oil. Good idea! Shea butter and or CoCo butter is also excellent for afterwards.

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    Oh yeah Emily, my PS did my incisions through my aeriola(sp?). They are so tiny & thin, and they are blended in...you can't barely see them at all, unless I pointed them out to you. Aeriola(sp?) incisions aren't bad at all....unless he's a butcher maniac. First time my BF saw them, he looked and looked and couldn't find them!
    If you're gonna tan them, make sure you cover the incisions for a year...after a year it shouldn't be a problem. Just don't forget to dab the Vit. E & you'll be good to go. Good luck on your surgery day.

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    I don't think the scars fade for a long time (3-6 months?), and you definitely probably have to take more time off for the lift. I know you always research everything, but make sure you know how long before you can dance and put make up over them.



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    Default Re: PS says I need a lift with BA

    thanks guys! you are making me feel a lot better about this.

    I'm constantly reading stuff on the internet and Dr. DeWire had very little bad written about him (mainly that he's too conservative with size and hates silicone.) I met him and I loved him. I've seen a bunch of befores-and-afters and I'm impressed. He did make a snide comment about strippers, but I will let that pass. He said that he doesn't like to do local dancers because they will call him for things that they should see a primary doc/gyno for.....seemed to kind of lump us all together as being basketcases with no health insurance.

    Anyway....I'm still researching this no-scar lift, but if it's as hard to detect as you all say, then I guess I shouldn't sweat it the regular benelli.

    I mean, I look at these from my PS's site and I am impressed...yes, I see scars, but the boobies look great!
    http://www.advanced-art.com/Breast-A...xy-Benelli.htm
    http://www.advanced-art.com/Breast-A...y-Crescent.htm
    http://www.advanced-art.com/Breast-A...y-Vertical.htm

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    Well, another thing those are NEW scars. Scars fade with time and strip clubs are dark. We hate the ugly lights!

    Plus you have tons of lotions and tanning as well from which to choose from.
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    Default Re: PS says I need a lift with BA

    *de-lurk mode*

    Actually, I'm currently recovering from PS (Thursday, November 3) and had my BA redone with a circular/internal lift. I had saline teardrop shaped submuscular implants which were replaced with round cohesive gel silicone implants.

    My first implants looked OKAY, but I really should have gotten the lift the first time. There is SUCH a huge difference and, even now, when I'm in the post-op Frankenboobs stage, I can tell it is a major improvement. Granted, I'm very light skinned and tend to scar mildly, but, even now, the lines around my aerola are fading with amazing speed.

    I say get a second opinion if you wish, but whoever you chose to cut into your body, make sure you trust them completely. A great doctor is more than worth the money.

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    The pics on his site look great. Now I'm wanting some implants....maybe one day I'll get them. I'm just scared I'd hate them or I'd have complications.

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    well good luck, Emily! I'm happy for you and I know you will love the new twins!

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