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    Yeah I just found your post on SCL. That's some dumb shit--Rachel's is one of the few super nice and super clean clubs in the city. God forbid they should go after like, Club Secrets, Full Monty, or any of the places that are blatantly bad. CCV can lick my white ass.

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    Yeah it is a nice club. Ive been there for a few years and its pretty mild compared to alot of the other clubs. Thats why the whole thing surprised me but according to the police it is just first on the list of columbus clubs to be raided.So if you are dancing anywhere now, be careful. They even said on the news that they are targeting several clubs.

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    Yeah... Our club got hit last year but luckily I work for a big trinity so the manager paid bail for all the girls to get out of jail and then plea bargained.

    Of course, obviously I don't want a misdemeanor on my record but it's nice to have someone looking out either way. I'm a pretty good girl at work too.

    Sucks though, sorry about what happened. It's election month so they have to be hardasses now, like they don't already chew our ass bad enough about stripping in Columbus as it is.

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    The story is on www.nbc4i.com if u want to read about it. Just type strip club into thier search to find the story.

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    Get club PATRONS activated. Give them instructions about what to do. They should be your advocates not people who see political billboards.

    What if the clubs were all forced out of business? The patrons would have to find escorts or take a longer drive.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    According to the story at , the BIG legal issue is actually one of adult business zoning ... which could put Rachels out of business permanently. I'm sure that the Rachel's customers at the time of the bust really appreciated having their cars and license plates televised too !

    As I've posted before, the direction things are taking in Columbus appears to be following a predictable road ... first make it impossible for girls in 'clean' clubs to make money because of regulations/busts scaring off upscale business customers ... then make it impossible for girls in 'dirty' clubs to make money unless they're willing to compete stroke for stroke with girls offering 'extras' that the remaining not-so-upscale customers expect ... then form a 'revolving door' of high earnings through 'extras', frequent busts, high legal fees paid for by the 'extras' earnings to deal with the busts, and then back to work to do it all over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by threlayer
    Get club PATRONS activated. Give them instructions about what to do. They should be your advocates not people who see political billboards.
    Because most club patrons around here don't want it to be that known that they go to clubs. Most men who come to clubs here are married, in a relationship or in a businessship. It's not a big tourist / party town like LA, Austin or Vegas where everyone is more supportive. It's Columbus and the majority of men here who go to strip clubs would rather hide out until it's all over then act in the girls' interest.

    As for it being a zoning issue... I'm sure that's true, I mean, the city would know better than I would. But Rachel's club has been around for a loooooong time, so it's strange to me that they would suddenly bring it up now. I mean, the club has been checked up on a few times and no one ever noticed or said anything.

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    Because most club patrons around here don't want it to be that known that they go to clubs. Most men who come to clubs here are married, in a relationship or in a businessship. It's not a big tourist / party town like LA, Austin or Vegas where everyone is more supportive. It's Columbus and the majority of men here who go to strip clubs would rather hide out until it's all over then act in the girls' interest.
    This is the case in MOST US cities that don't have super-gigantic populations and aren't tourist meccas. The tendency for most 'upscale' local club customers to steer clear of local clubs while busts are occurring (thus possible negative publicity which might adversely affect their own business / home life) is the financial 'catalyst' for all of the other changes that typically follow.

    As for it being a zoning issue... I'm sure that's true, I mean, the city would know better than I would. But Rachel's club has been around for a loooooong time, so it's strange to me that they would suddenly bring it up now. I mean, the club has been checked up on a few times and no one ever noticed or said anything.
    From a historical perspective, adult business zoning laws are actually fairly new idea (i.e. the last 5-10 years). Most previously existing clubs that were 'whacked' by the enactment of local adult business zoning laws were given a 'grace period' to keep operating in their current location while the clubowner was supposed to be looking for a new location which was properly zoned. Since putting up/moving to a new building is an expensive proposition, and since properly zoned adult business locations were typically placed next to garbage dumps, auto junkyards etc. the clubowners were in no hurry to move. However, in lots of cities, the 'grace periods' are now running out, the clubs have not moved, and legal fireworks is starting to fly as the local gov'ts are now attempting to close down the improperly zoned clubs.

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    The Zoning Law tactic was initiated by the Edwin Meese / Scott Bergthold coalition (Community Defense Council) out of Scottsdale AZ. That group consults for communities as to how to go about setting up zoning laws to get rid of SOBs.

    A lot of political action can be developed by anonymous letters, calls etc. Of course if there are lots of legitimate illegal carryings on in clubs (drug deals, prostitution, fights, tax evasion etc), this probably won't get very far.
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    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie
    The deepest pockets actually involved in the exotic dancing industry are generally the corporate 'chain clubs' ... and those clubs actually have a vested interest in seeing locally owned independent clubs getting busted (i.e. it weakens the competition)!
    Yeah I’ve heard the big corporate porn industries have actually played part in legislation against porn because they know they are soo big it won’t affect them and will kill allot of competition . Very interesting I didn’t think of the dancing industry did the same thing.. I bet all big business try and find underhanded ways like that to kill their competition.. Like wall-mart etc.

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    Very interesting I didn’t think of the dancing industry did the same thing.. I bet all big business try and find underhanded ways like that to kill their competition.. Like wall-mart etc.
    Actually, there are more similarities between ruthless chains WalMart and DejaVu/Hustler than you know ! They both seem to follow the same 'attack' business plan, then once they have successfully driven out most of the local competition they both raise 'performance' expectations and lower the area's 'average take home pay' for their 'workers'.

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    Amazing how we don't expect big corporations to play a fair game against all us little, unogranized competitors, and yet we let them get by with it. I would say something about politics here, but I really don't need to since it's already so damned obvious.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Oh man, I just SEE the word Deja Vu on here and shudder...

    ...*shudder*

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    I was a licensed massage therapist a couple of years ago. The rule is, as long as you don't call it "massage", you are safe. Call it bodywork.

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    Oh yeah right... If you tell someone in a strip club in Columbus that you will give them 'body work' you are so getting hounded by vice. They're uber strict here--The deal with the girl, as I know it, is that the vice guy asked for a massage and she offered one for like five dollars.

    In Columbus, it's illegal to give a massage for money unless you are licensed, so..

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    Yikes! A few weeks ago I couldn't get anyone to give me a whole $20 for a freggin dance...so I went around the room asking customes if they would tip me $5 a song for a back rub where they were sitting. Now i can see why the management might be upset since they don't get a cut of my tips...but i didn't know it was illegal! Is it really illegal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helle
    As for it being a zoning issue... I'm sure that's true, I mean, the city would know better than I would.
    I seriously doubt this is a zoning issue actually. This smells a LOT like when a cop pulls you over for speeding and then decides to write you up for "wasting of natural resources" and "low tire pressure" also because you gave him some grief. Zoning issues don't get "overlooked" by anyone, especially when dealing with strip clubs. Most likely what happened was the zoning changed and nobody ever notified the club. This being said though, why they don't fall under a Grandfather Clause for zoning is beyond me.

    For them to not be zoned now means either they were never zoned for business (in which case they could never get their business license) or the zoning changed and nothing ever happened. The way the article makes it sound you would think the club was never zoned to be there and I seriously doubt that. If that were the case, many people in the government office would be in a heap of trouble. Another possiblity is that the club didn't bribe enough people or didn't bibe the right people enough money to make this zoning issue go under the rug.

    One other note on the zoning issue that I find interesting is what I touched upon earlier. How did this club continue to file year after year for their business license, their income tax number, etc. and nobody ever once noticed that they weren't zoned for operation.

    This whole "zoning issue" excuse to me sounds like a load of crap.

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    Fruitflies are VERY common in restruants/bars. I bartend at one and those little #$%*!! are everywhere. Even though we clean constantly.

    Damn that must have been scary. A shoulder rub???? WTF???

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