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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    All the older men I know who are chronically single are miserable and pathetic, and usually not very professionally successful.
    If by "chronically single" you mean "can't get a date, never have girlfriends", then I completely agree. I'm sure you meet quite of few of these at the "office". Also, I'll modify my comment to say that at some point, men acting like players becomes pathetic. Hefner was cool until maybe 60. He's been on the creepy side for a while now. Men have a coolness shelflife even if they do remain fertile.

    The women I know who are older and chronically single are usually in demand, extremely social, professionally successful and happy. So my experience of "gender values over time" may be somewhat different than yours.
    Probably accurate as to the last part. I've lived next to two different packrat aging cat ladies. Also creepy.

    Personally, I'm looking forward to writing a book, moving into a teeny little condo on the waterfront with African art and buying me a cat. One of those fancy, designer hairless cats, since I'm allergic.
    Sounds great. Limit it to two cats and you're fine. And don't save any old newpapers.

    Don't knock me for trying to help this boy out. The paradigm of inverted gender value is available to help him deal with his lack of resolve with this girl, should he wish to stop supplicating her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toomuchinfo
    What makes her the prize? Hustle her instead. Remember, women have a shelf life, men don't.
    Inside a strip club which, if you actually read the posts, is what this thread is all about, the only person with a shelf life is a guy with a bad attitude.
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    From the Snark --- (superficial charm, glibness, an inability to empathize with others, manipulativeness, pathological dishonesty, a grandiose sense of self, lack of remorse) are found in abundance at strip clubs--


    This may look a bit like an exaggeration, joke, or glib comment. It is not.

    Another two disorders that may fit this bill are Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Histrionic Personality Disorder:




    Also try HPD:



    Diagnostic Criteria
    A pervasive pattern of excessive emotionality and attention seeking, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

    1. is uncomfortable in situations in which he or she is not the center of attention
    2. interaction with others is often characterized by inappropriate sexually seductive or provocative behavior
    3. displays rapidly shifting and shallow expression of emotions
    4. consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention to self
    5. has a style of speech that is excessively impressionistic and lacking in detail
    6. shows self-dramatization, theatricality, and exaggerated expression of emotion
    7. is suggestible, i.e., easily influenced by others or circumstances
    8. considers relationships to be more intimate than they actually are

    ---

    If a friend shows these symptoms, you might consider suggesting they consult a mental health professional. These afflictions are related to both Bipolar and Borderline Personality Disorders. Possibly a futile suggestion, but the alternative is ultimately tragic, as the Snark suggests.

    TO Yoda: I should have specified my comments were limited to the phone call hustling. My impression was the poster was complaining that this person had become so patterned to behave in a certain less the ingenuous way, that this became pervasive to their personality, regardless of the setting or person with whom they were communicating.
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    ^^^These sound like accurate descriptions of staff, management and customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toomuchinfo
    This may look a bit like an exaggeration, joke, or glib comment. It is not.
    but what he's describing is someone that would be called a good hustler inside of a sc. that's not the same as a person suffering from a psychological disorder. still, it never ceases to amaze me how many customers walk into sc and expect strippers to behave in exactly the same manner that one would expect from a salesperson at Nordstrom's. sc were never meant to be that way in the first place. granted, strippers are flaky, but that doesn't imply there's some kind of psychological disorder behind the flakiness.
    Quote Originally Posted by toomuchinfo
    Another two disorders that may fit this bill are Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Histrionic Personality Disorder:
    no, it's called "overpromising and underdelivering". it's the oldest and (unsurprisingly) still the most effective hustle in the book.
    Quote Originally Posted by evan_essence
    These sound like accurate descriptions of staff, management and customers.
    or an astrology reading.
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    and I've been summarily rejected by mr._punk for not allowing guys to penetrate me anally in my club, so I'm feeling really needy right now.
    now, you know that not true. if i reject you for anything. it would be for not keeping your big yap shut and sticking out your ass when a customer tells you. no anal penetration is necessary. although, there will be very firm slaps across the ass cheeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    All the older men I know who are chronically single are miserable and pathetic, and usually not very professionally successful.

    The women I know who are older and chronically single are usually in demand, extremely social, professionally successful and happy. So my experience of "gender values over time" may be somewhat different than yours.
    So who are these older, chronically single women hanging out with, if not older, chronically single men that their lives are so extremely social and happy? Sorry, Jenny, but your description of older, chronically single men can and usually does describe older, chronically single women, too.

    Unless you're suggesting that older, chronically single women hang out with (a) younger, single men looking for MILF's or (b) other chronically single women all the time -- which might be why the older, chronically single men are so miserable and pathetic.

    The reason older, chronically single men are usually broke is because if they weren't, they would have already hooked themselves up with a younger, chronically shopping trophy wife and would no longer be single. That or they found themselves a trophy wife while they had money and lost all the money in the divorce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_punk
    now, you know that not true. if i reject you for anything. it would be for not keeping your big yap shut and sticking out your ass when a customer tells you. no anal penetration is necessary. although, there will be very firm slaps across the ass cheeks.
    Actually, I have a funny story...
    No, I'm just kidding. I have no funny stories. But really - I've been working myself up to accepting full penetration in hopes of winning your stripclub admiration, and all I have to do is be quiet?

    Hmm. I think the anal penetration might be easier for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JC2006
    So who are these older, chronically single women hanging out with, if not older, chronically single men that their lives are so extremely social and happy? Sorry, Jenny, but your description of older, chronically single men can and usually does describe older, chronically single women, too.

    Unless you're suggesting that older, chronically single women hang out with (a) younger, single men looking for MILF's or (b) other chronically single women all the time -- which might be why the older, chronically single men are so miserable and pathetic.
    Are you assuming that, when single, the only people to be social with are other singles? What, are there walls erected? They are "social with" people of varying ages and varying coupled status. Same as everyone else. I'm not going to say that you haven't experienced the things you have - but mine is different. In my experience it is single men that are usually unhappy and desperate to remedy, not women.
    Although, I think reading TMI last post that he is talking about babies. Which is another kettle of fish, and (god willing) has NOTHING TO DO with customer/dancer relationships in strip bars.

    The reason older, chronically single men are usually broke is because if they weren't, they would have already hooked themselves up with a younger, chronically shopping trophy wife and would no longer be single. That or they found themselves a trophy wife while they had money and lost all the money in the divorce
    I think your definition of broke and mine might be very different. Keep in mind that I was raised very working class, so in my universe one can be entirely not broke, and still not afford to buy a spouse. And, believe it or not (and I know that this mode of thinking is anathema to this board) some people (yes, even some men) actually don't want to buy their life partner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toomuchinfo
    If by "chronically single" you mean "can't get a date, never have girlfriends", then I completely agree. I'm sure you meet quite of few of these at the "office". Also, I'll modify my comment to say that at some point, men acting like players becomes pathetic. Hefner was cool until maybe 60. He's been on the creepy side for a while now. Men have a coolness shelflife even if they do remain fertile.
    I actually think Hef was always pretty gross. But, hey. I'm just a ball breaking feminist. What the hell do I know? So we're talking about fertility? Eew. Gross. God, let us not talk about the fertility of strippers like it is an important selling point. God.

    Sounds great. Limit it to two cats and you're fine. And don't save any old newpapers.
    Oh, screw you. I will get as many cats as will make me happy. So long as they are hypoallergenic.

    Don't knock me for trying to help this boy out. The paradigm of inverted gender value is available to help him deal with his lack of resolve with this girl, should he wish to stop supplicating her.
    How? Like how is the fact that one day, likely 10 years+ in the future she will not be as attractive and not be able to have babies going to help this guy's resolve? The "paradigm" of "inverted gender value" is going to help him either a) not want to date the girl (because keep in mind that the drama in question is the fact that she didn't call him back, not that she is calling him all the time) or b) make her want to date him? How? By reminding her that one day she won't be able to have babies? Because I think that would be hilarious. I would pay money to see a guy "stop supplicating" a woman with this method.
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