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    Angry Stop rating us with numbers!

    "I went to Blah Blah Blah club, saw a few 8-9s with a couple 3-4s in the mix, overall good grindage, and will be back."

    I hate this. I am not a 9 or a 10 or a 2 or a 6. I am a complete person. So cut it out.

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    Really! Besides, one guys's 6 is another guys's 10. I have been called both!


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    Great post! You're both right. Who really sets that scale since a woman's appearance is a subjective thing?

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    Exactly, I don't care to hear how shallow peoples judgements are either! Personality, personality, personality!!!!!

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    Lizette:

    I was an escort for two years, with reviews on theeroticreview.com. There, women are reviewed for looks and service on a scale of 1 to 10. I let the reviews get to me. I convinced myself that if I didn't score a 9 or 10, that I was a lesser human being.

    The fact is, as someone else pointed out, that one man's 6 is another man's 10. Some men may like large, bald 40-something women with extensive tattoos and piercings; some may prefer a slim blonde enhanced D-cup in her early twenties.

    The fact is no matter what score some idiot ascribes to you, that's not who you are or what you're worth as a human being. The more different and less cookie-cutter you are, the more money you make if you have confidence in yourself. So fuck them and ignore it.

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    i find myself agreeing with this. In certain cultures women with 1 foot necks are considered attractive.

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    Lizette;
    Consider: appearance is the only arena in which EVERY man has the right and position to judge EVERY woman. This is part of the reason men like strip clubs - because it not only makes that explicit but in fact demands it. Look at some of the posters here - some otherwise very woman-friendly guys cannot help but engage with that, even here where most of us, at least, are primarily invisible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    Lizette;
    Consider: appearance is the only arena in which EVERY man has the right and position to judge EVERY woman. This is part of the reason men like strip clubs - because it not only makes that explicit but in fact demands it. Look at some of the posters here - some otherwise very woman-friendly guys cannot help but engage with that, even here where most of us, at least, are primarily invisible.
    This is so f*cked up. And yet so true. I must go now and reconcile.

    I hate listening to customers, SCL, TUSCL speak of a woman as being no more than a 3 and not a person worth knowing. I hate that I, in part for what I do for a living, encourage it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizette
    I hate listening to customers, SCL, TUSCL speak of a woman as being no more than a 3 and not a person worth knowing. I hate that I, in part for what I do for a living, encourage it.
    I don't neccesarily feel that you can sum up a dancer in a single number either (like mentioned its all subjective, one person's '3', is another's '6'), but the point of the those sites is to give other customers some glimmer of how attractive the dancers are a particular club before they go drop money on a door cover and overpriced drinks.

    Cruel as it may sound, a numerical 1-10 scale simply makes this easy on an internet review board. Much like those gals who sibmit pictures to those "Am I hot or not?" websites, it's simply a measure of dancer physicalities, not their self worth, personality skills, or dancing abilities. You gotta learn not take that sort of thing personally.
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    You are correct. Men use that number system so as to further objectify women. They feel it empowers them. I'm not going to lie though, I've done it before.

    By the way, this is a good thread. I'd give it about an 8.
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    The fact is, as someone else pointed out, that one man's 6 is another man's 10
    that is so true! And what is worse is some days I feel like a 10 and other days I feel like a 0. Sometimes I think I might just like to get fat and frumpy and be really happy that way and stop wearing makeup and say fuck it.

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    Who really sets that scale since a woman's appearance is a subjective thing?
    The true origin of this ratings scale was Scores in Manhattan, with the 'subjectivity' boiling down to the auditioning dancer being considered 'Scores material' or not.

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    Men use that number system so as to further objectify women.
    You say that like objectifying women is a bad thing. The only thing women hate more than being a sexual object is not being a sexual object. Truth.

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    OH, these men need to watch the movie story of "Johnny Ringo". It's about an indigenous islander who pays a tribute of several more cattle than needed for a woman considered "homely" to all the people in her village. AFTER she is hot Johnny Ringo's wife, she blossoms and people start calling her a "Twelve Cow Woman"- his love made her beautiful.
    Of course, these men probably are not worthy of such a miracle so they devalue women with their Ten Point Scale. LOL

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    ^ That was a good movie.
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    I do not think the number system is so bad. Most guys I know rate on looks and personality. Myself, I rate on a complete package. I would take someone with a fun personality over looks anyday. I used to date a girl who was near perfect on looks but was not all that on personallity. You could tell what she thought of herself. I did not like that at all. I would say I have a 3 number system, looks, personality, and overall. The most important to me is overall. If I have fun with someone, I am happy.



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    I don't rate people at all. However, like you, if I have fun with someone, I am happy.
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    I really do not use a number system, other than rate my important aspects. From a guys perpective, a lot of guys use numbers to rate women on looks. But then again it depends on the guy giving the grade.

    But in my personal opinion, the is strictly on looks. I would think women do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer
    The only thing women hate more than being a sexual object is not being a sexual object. Truth.
    This is very true.
    And to add: Women generally only find number rating offensive when they are rated poorly by another. Those same women don't seem to mind it though if they are called "a 10."

    Lets face it - we are a society obsessed with physical appearance, especially that of women. This is not about to change, so accept it for the superficial reality that it is.

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    Yeah, tampa, I've said before that I don't think that is true. It is not true for me. It is not true for the women that I spend my time with. I'm not going to say it isn't true for you, or for some women that you know, but trust me; not all women like being sexual objects.

    Although I have a very funny in class story I could tell you that sort of relates to the subject, if you want to hear it.
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    Hmm.... ok, here is how I look at it: I agree that constantly being viewed as a "sexual object" is annoying and completely disqualifies an individual's intellect, personality, interests, etc. However, the opposite of this is to be viewed as an "asexual object." Although there is much, much more to me than my sexuality, I do want there to be recognition that I am, in fact, a sexual being. And yes, I do want the opposite sex to find me attractive and sexy - I don't base my existence on others views of my physical self, but very, very few people could admit that they don't care if they are or are not attractive to others.

    Perhaps my opinion is based on the correlation that I make between being viewed as a "sexual object" and being viewed as an "attractive" person. Of course the two are not the same, but they are directly related.
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    The whole numbers thing never bothered me. I guess because I have always known it was both subjective and based only on the physical rather than the entire person.

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    Tampa - that is exactly the correlation that I distinguish. There is a difference between objectifying someone and thinking that she is pretty. There is a difference between objectifying someone and finding her sexually desirable. I mean the operative root of "objectify" is "object" - and I think it is foolish for guys to act like the only way to find a woman attractive is to dehumanize her.
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    I don't do numerical ratings. It's hopelessly single-dimensioned and inadequate.

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    Hmm, I'd rate this thead a 5

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