^^ Drat. I knew not being so hairy, taking a shower and having a medium size dick would make me draw the short loser straw![]()
Cally, you are a hoot![]()
FBR
^^ Drat. I knew not being so hairy, taking a shower and having a medium size dick would make me draw the short loser straw![]()
Cally, you are a hoot![]()
FBR
Once again I have embraced my addiction and have put off the moral dilemma to another day.



Twice...and a mistake I won't do again...
They go to strip clubs for a reason...
this thread makes me wanna be a troll.
cally, wanna be my bj partner?
Only if its uncovered BJ giving Lola![]()
As someone that's hooked up with a LOT of customers, I'd to reclarify one point: I didn't bang any of these customers for money. I banged them just for fun. They were young good-looking guys that I surely would have banged if I'd met them outside of work. Just to set the record straight.I don't bang anyone unless they meet my looks standards and have a decent amount of intelligence.
Yeah I agree with this. If I'm not "good enough" to have money spent on me for a lapdance/shot/etc, then why would they think I'm "good enough" to fuck for free? I'm not a golddigger, but I definitely like guys to spend money on me...it shows that they're interested in me, and that they consider me "worth it." It's not about the money or the presents, it's about the principle that these guys are going the extra mile to impress me, which shows that they think I'm worth something. It also shows that the guy is not cheap, and that that the guy makes a decent enough income(LOL I don't want to be with a McDonalds worker if you know what I mean!).
As far as the customers that I've banged...every single one of them spent a decent amount of money on me at the club. They either got a few lapdances, or a few shots plus a good tip. They didn't pay me a mint, but they spent a decent amount. I love it when guys who hate the test tube shots will buy a bunch of shots, just to "patronize" me(usually they'll buy the shot but let me drink it lol).
I also have this "guy-must-buy-me-things" mentality OTC. For example, I expect that the guy will pay my way on a date. I also expect that the guy will pick me up, and that I'll only pick him up if it's right along my way to a destination, or if we've been dating for a while and know each other well. I didn't always have this mentality, but I changed when I realized that guys were treating me like a doormat for NOT having the "guy-must-buy-me-things" mentality. Back when I picked guys up for dates all the time, they tended to use me for rides or else they made flippant comments about having "no need to buy a car since I have a car".(soooo maddening) Or they would have me drive all the time, and then as soon as they get a car, they would expect me to MEET them somewhere on dates, not even letting me sit inside their car. (horrible, isn't it??) Ironically, I also noticed that on times that I was a "cheap date," the guys rarely ever called me again. I think this whole phenomenon is best described in the book "Why Men Love Bitches: From Doormat to Dreamgirl." Last year, I had an epiphany/snapping and I became more of a "bitch" and so I expect guys to "pay their way."
...And it wasn't just strip club jobs where I hooked up with customers or employees either. There were plenty of other jobs where I hooked up with, or tried to hook up with, coworkers or customers. I got fired from two jobs for sexual harassment...one a telemarketing job, one a grocery store job. Admittedly I have a sexual addiction so it is hard for me to put up restraint when I see a good-looking guy with a good job walking into the strip club(or anywhere for that matter). If I had a boyfriend, it would be different, because I would be able to "get some" all the time so then I wouldn't need to go after other guys. Also if I had a boyfriend, I would have some degree of loyalty, which would inhibit me from seeking out other guys too. But I don't, so I need to "get some" somehow...
I have no issue with "doing custies"; but I would consider that if you have a sexual addiction and are in fact harassing people you work with becasue of that, that you have a problem that is not being addressed by "getting some." It's not okay to sexually harass people just because you are a woman, and if you don't have "restraint" - again your own well being, both physical and psychological, is at risk. What you are describing is not a healthy sex drive; it is compulsive behaviour.
I have taught that the sky in all its zones is mortal and its substance was formed by a process of birth
The guy I'm seeing now, I met at work. He's the first customer I've ever slept with in the six years I've been working in clubs though. I don't even know why I gave him my number, but I'm glad I did =]
I've become friends with many people from the clubs, but I have a really hard time looking at anyone sexually after they have been in the club more than once.
The world's most uncoordinated stripper
Okay let me address this issue. I don't "harass" people at my current work. The two times that I got fired for "harassment" were 4 and 8 years ago. Admittedly "harassment" wasn't the only reason for my firing 7 years ago...it was also because (despite trying hard and being really nice to customers) I'm a terrible salesperson...and the person that I made comments about didn't care, he was actually flattered and hit on me after that, it was the manager(aka his relative) who cared. They were probably looking for any excuse to fire me because I had shitty sales.
At the other job, yeah the guy felt "harassed" by me. This guy thought he was hot shit, and he would constantly sexually harass the other female coworkers in small ways. A few girls told me about this. I didn't like the kid(mostly because he didn't like me, but anyhoo), so on my very last day of work(I was quitting), I started elbowing him the same exact way he did to other girls. Funny how quickly he screamed "Manager, manager!" Fuckin hypocrite. Again, I am convinced that this "harassment" was an excuse as to the bigger reason that they fired me, considering that management was already very pissy with me quitting, since I was the only sucker that they'd been able to con into working their shitty 5am opening shifts for them.
Those two jobs aside, there were a few times in the past that I did indeed harass guys. Most times the guys I "targetted" were asshole jerks that I felt "deserved" it in some way or another, as sick as that sounds(e.g., a guy that raped a female in my dorm). This occured during times that I wasn't able to get guys voluntarily. Luckily I don't have that problem as much today, now that I make a decent income and I look a bit better. But yeah it is a psychological problem and I'm aware of it. I'd like to think that I have it under wraps now, but if I got into a car accident and experience implant bursting and face disfiguration...watch out, I might feel obliged to go back to my ol' tricks lol j/k.
Yeah but unfortunately, not everybody had the great opportunity to lose their virginity at age 13 like you did. Some people(i.e., me) went through years of sexual frustration, unable to get dates, and harassed by guys for being "ugly" and "flat" on a regular basis to the point that my mom wondered why I didn't go to the principal about it(why?...because I knew that would just lead to putting more attention on a situation that was already excruciatingly embarrassing for me). Some people build up frustration and hurt feelings over the years to the point that they end up vastly overcompensating. It's so easy to say I have "issues."
Last edited by PhillyDancer1982; 01-24-2008 at 05:51 PM.
No, I havent slept with any custies, but Im new, so if I had, that would be really wrong...I dont ever plan on crossing to the dark side, although I wanted to last night...there was a guy that came in, gorgeous (he had the young paul newman look going on), and he played hard to get with me all night by pulling me in and telling me how much he wanted me and then resisting me for a dance. Normally, being "pulled in' and touched/talked to like that by anyone would make my stomach churn, and some moron playing hard to get wouldnt get any more of my time, but he had a low voice that was so sexy and just seemed like he wanted it so bad but was married and resisted the urge. I guess if the guy is hot enough (and someone you would be attracted to in another environment), its possible to be really turned on by them. As for sleeping with, no comment....I dont have enough time under my belt to pass judgement on anyone who has.
I just wanted to point out, that this sounds like the male version of why he'd sexually harass someone. Late bloomer, sexually frustrated, rejected by hot girls, teased, so it's easy to see why I've blamed women and demand mine whether or not it makes them uncomfortable.
^^^
Yeah, I had a reply that went something like that, but I really think that I made my point pretty effectively in my first post.
I have taught that the sky in all its zones is mortal and its substance was formed by a process of birth
negative. thought about it a couple times in the realm of make-believe.
however, I'd be willing to under the right circumstances.
for example, I just know God's going to send me Gerard Butler some sweet, sweet shift. And then nobody's going to see me OR him for a week.
You sure are preoccupied with hanging on to negativity. Have you ever thought about dropping your grudge against the universe and not trying to be some spooky, obsessed avenger for all the wrongs ever done to you by people who were just idiotic and immature trying to show off, like how people do when they're children? Because the thing is... harassing boy X doesn't change the things that boy Y said to you in the past. It seems to just continue the cycle of grudge-holding, approval-seeking, acting out and justification that monopolizes the majority of your thoughts.
Incidentally, getting my cherry popped at age 13 made my life harder, not easier. It was only when I slept with real jerks in my later teen years that I felt thankful to have first had sex in the context of a puppy-love relationship, rather than passed out at a party. I live and learn and try to count my blessings whenever I can; a bit Pollyannaish, I suppose, but it makes for a peaceful inner monologue. Maybe you should try it sometime.
Drought was over. Where was I? Drinks were on the house.
For mixers, my love, you'd poured--what?--even the rain.
You are my sister, I think.![]()
On the original topic...I've never taken a customer home for fun or anything. The whole concept is terrifying to me. I had a regular that clicked with me and some things happened, but I would never just hook up with customers. Some of them have been really sexy though. And it was tempting. But I think just as they can see us as being a fantasy girl at work, it's easy for us to have delusions about who they really are. Let's face it, they are at a strip club. It's not USUALLY the best place to find a quality partner.
Who says that I'm "harassing" these people? You and Jenny say that I'm harassing them...okay and perhaps I said it too before...perhaps it's my choice of words that leads people to believe and say the things they do.
Admittedly I was a little overbearing in my behavior when I was younger(i.e., 15-21), in response to guys that were overly rude to me in their rejections. Most of my "harassing" behaviors were done to the guys who directly dissed me...e.g., harassing boy X for what boy X did. E.g,. the time these guys turned me down and then proceeded to taunt me for being flat, which led to me starting a fist fight with them. Then again, it didn't take a retaliatory fist fight or anything close to it, to constitute "harassment"...some guys acted as if my trying to converse with them was annoying enough, a borderline "harassment" of sorts even though I didn't mean harm by it.
I'd like to think that I'm not nearly as repulsive or "flat" as I was before, therefore I have no need to "harass" guys to get some, thankyou. I'd like to think that me flirting with guys wouldn't be considered "harassment" anymore, but would be considered "welcome."
I can relate to the counting blessings part, because -- believe it or not, despite my rather "dark" posts at times -- I do the same thing from time to time. If anything, I'm probably a lot "darker" and more pessimistic on this website than in real life, simply because it's easier to write about things that bother me in writing.
Perhaps I am a "sexual deviant"(as my ex frequently scolded me for being), but...I felt that my life actually got easier when I started going after much-older guys and dating and having sex with guys who (as it turned out) were already teen dads. Most people here would disagree. But maybe that's just me. I don't know. Maybe I don't have as much of an emotional need with sex as most people do, not sure.
Well yeah, when the "demanding" is done to the specific guys that ridiculed me to the point of harassment, then what's wrong with that?
Example: Girl is at an outdoors event(where there's alcohol) and she goes to talk and flirt with a group of guys. They are rude, mutter something under their breath about "get that ugly girl away from us" and act like jerks. Girl too has been drinking, so she stands up to them and says "Well I refuse to let you be such an asshole about it!" and the guys start taunting her for being flat. Girl retaliates by punching the one guy in the face. Guy's friend retaliates by hitting girl back in the face.*
* true story, by the way
What is so wrong about that? The guys deserved it. This isn't a matter of girl retaliating on an innocent guy, it's a matter of her retaliating on the very guys that made her feel like shit. I've heard of strippers kicking guys with their stiletto heel for a lot less than that.
Philly - not for nothing, but you said that you were fired not once but twice for sexual harassment. Why do you think we got the idea that you were sexually harassing people?
By the way - it is completely unacceptable on every level to punch someone for making fun of you.
I have taught that the sky in all its zones is mortal and its substance was formed by a process of birth
LOL oh come on -- how many girls have written on SW about slugging or spilling a drink on a customer for the customer talking degrading or trying to grope them?
And yeah admittedly I kinda brought it onto myself, blatantly announcing that I'd been fired from two jobs for sexual harassment...admittedly it's more embarrassing for me to say "Despite trying really hard, I just didn't make enough sales" or "They were angry that I was quitting, so they said 'you can't quit, you're fired'!", than to simply say that I was fired because of (borderline) harassment.![]()
Philly, I'm not sure what you want right now. I mean, we weren't discussing jobs we got fired from. You announced, only in the context of a tendency to hook up with colleagues and customers, that you were fired (twice) for sexual harassment. Then, after someone mentioned maybe that is not a neutral or "grrl power" thing to do, you backpedaled and said that the firings were unjustfied - there were only ostensibly for sexual harassment (twice - when that is such an intuitive falsehood to make up regarding female employees) and you only sexually harass friends. Then you backpedal further and say that you don't really sexually harass them - you just make unwelcome advances, start public arguments when you are rejected and then punch them (thus effectively moving into assault). Oh, and in the middle you say that the only reason every other woman isn't acting this way is because she lost her virginity at a young age and that the behaviour is somehow neutralized because you were horny and nobody wanted you. Honestly - look at what you are presenting us with for a second and think about what kind of reaction you could viably expect?
I have taught that the sky in all its zones is mortal and its substance was formed by a process of birth
Okay perhaps I deserve getting criticism if I'm going to "brag" that I was fired for sexual harassment...point given. And perhaps I shouldn't exaggerate things for the worst and then wonder why people are criticising me. In all reality, my "sexual harassment firings" weren't completely due to "sexual harassment"...I was actually fired for different reasons(low sales at the one job, and managers already having a grudge against me for quitting when they needed me to work 5am shifts for them)...so at that point, they used any slight wrongdoing as a reason to justify "firing" me. In my opinion, it sounds more interesting to say that I was fired for "harassment", but perhaps I should accept that if I'm going to present myself that way, I should accept the criticism that comes with it.
There were other times that I did that to myself. E.g., the time I failed the driving test for basically being too meek and easily intimidated by the gruff, overweight male tester. I didn't want to tell my classmates the "real" reason why I failed, because I didn't want people thinking of me as a meek, easily intimidated, unassertive dork...so I made up a bullshit reason about failing because of having too much bad attitude with the tester. Naturally my classmates criticized me for making the "bad decision" to have attitude with the tester. I didn't like the criticism I got, yet I'd chosen to "present myself" to my classmates in a way that left me open to criticism.
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