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    It's a lovely yet slow holiday season with too many dancers on shift and bargain seeking customers. I honestly don't know what the other girls are doing except that I have to loosen my boundries to compete. Put it this way: You know when a custy keeps grabbing your crotch, and you know that he has done 5 songs with so-and-so, which leads me to believe that so-and-so let him do it! Because I need the money, I give him mulitiple warnings instead of bouncing him pronto. And then I feel terrible for not standing up for myself. I feel dirty.

    The past 2 weeks, I have not faced such a rowdy, disrespectful group of customers before. I feel like a cheap prostitute. I don't know why I am not kicking them out the way a proud woman should.

    I need to tighten my boundries to their original form and accept that I will not compete with extras even if it means less money.

    I can't wait for the holiday season to be over. How about you?

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    I've gone through the same thing when I was desperate to earn two months rent in 2 weeks. There's this one custy that I hate giving lapdances to, but whenever I'm desperate, I somehow end up giving him LD's and then feel like a dirty whore afterwards.

    So the holiday season? Forget about it. If I weren't PMS-ing, I would be putting up with a lot of crap for the cash (but I'm likely to kill when PMS-ing example: I put a custy in a headlock and jumped off the stage and kicked him out of the club myself, the guy nearly suffocated). The only thing that's saving me from loosening up the boundaries is that my entire family has decided to skip the holidays for financial reasons (too many kids in college at once), so I don't need money for presents or anything.

    It'll be over soon and then you'll make double afterwards to make up for the holiday loss.

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    Maybe she gave him multiple warnings too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    Maybe she gave him multiple warnings too?
    I doubt it. The bouncer interrupted after 30 seconds of seeing me dodge his hands. If they see it, they throw the customer out. They let us give warnings but sometimes it's too much. The dancer has the option to creatively hide the pawing behind her dress or her hair to keep the foreplay a secret.

    This happens all year round. Lately, it's been more rampant and more obvious.

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    Did the same thing the other night, Lizette. Money is tight at my club, and we have many new dancers. So last night.... I was ecstatic that someone was going to buy me out for the rest of the night in VIP. (would have been three hours, coming to $600 in my pocket plus whatever he tipped me.) He asked ME. I didnt even have to hustle him. He waved me over. wow. HAH.

    Well... I ended up being in there for a full hour with him. Within ten minutes, i knew i was in for it. He knew the owner, and they waived his VIP fee, and according to him, that also meant that he was above club rules and he promised me that he wouldnt let me get in trouble and I should just go with the flow. He was trying to negotiate with me the ENTIRE time... "just let me kiss you. Just let me kiss here. I can touch you there. I'm not gonna hurt you. You wont get in trouble. Relax. No one can see." That infuriates me. I dont care who he knows or who he thinks he is. That doesnt change the fact that I"M A FREAKIN LADY!!

    Long story short, I put up with a lot more from the bastard than i normally would have. I did NOT get my money up front--stupid me. So i couldnt walk out on him. I grit my teeth and pushed his hands away and kept telling him that I dont care if you say it's ok. I"m not personally ok with that, etc etc etc again and again. He was also the first customer to try to put his hands up between my legs. He ended up not getting what he wanted from me, and so cut it short thankfully. I walked out of there pissed and feeling like a whore. It's hard to say no to $100 every 30 minutes. I seriously think I know what you're feeling. I felt really dirty last night. Been dancing 2 1/2 months and it was my first time i was near tears.
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    Lizette! That's exactly how I feel lately! I danced the week of Thanksgiving for the first time and it wasn't so bad at all, very respectful guys for the most part, then I was sick for a week and a half... I went back and I can't sleep at night because after work I feel like a whore. I had guys rubbing their crotch while I dance, people forcing my boobs onto their hards ons, fingers trying to slip into my panties, so much more: HORRIBLE. I just said no over and over again and then now I realize f*ck the money, I should have had them all thrown out .

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    I just go off work and from what I understand and see money has been really scarce at our club as well. Girls have been talking about doing private parties, etc. for money. I have to say though if I would have been smarter about it I would have thought ahead, because I know this time of year can be slow, and saved my money so I didn't have to put up with this shit. But if a guys puts in hands between my legs he is out the door, quick. We all have to live in our own skin. And in my opinion if you feel dirty doing something or like a whore than you shouldn't do it for any amount of money.

    I found myself tonight spending the whole evening with a custie that frequents the club for 200 bucks which I consider a bargain for an evening with a girl. Myself and another entertainer got four dances each from him and he gave us 200 bucks a piece. It wasn't like there were any better choices out there though. We had 9 girls and 10 custies come in all night. Out of those 10 custies maybe three spent money. I didn't mind sitting and talking to him because he is a nice guy but after a while I start getting tired. So, off I went at 1:30 for a rest and then finally we close.

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    Well, EVERYBODY on this board does something in the club that they won't talk about or admit too. I gurantee you that! You all can argue and say that I am wrong, but deep down everyone in the dancing business either has done or does something they are ashamed off. It might be something as little keepig that 30 bottle of lotion someone left i the dressing oom, to do a cut rate when it's slow, to giving the manager head to keep your job, and everything in between. We have all been there. Girls might act ll high and mighty but EVERYONE has dine something. I would like to tell you that it is good that you have a conscience, but in this industry it is not always a good thing, although it is usually is as long as you keep it in check. Do what you have to do, try to do it with class, but do what you have to do. Now go make some money.

    And Lizette, unless some jackass is paying you 50 cents for a blow job, you are not a cheap prostitute. I am sorry you ae having a rough time, things will get better. Keep your head up, take home every single dollar that is in that club, and make sure you give your middle finger to all the other girls that give you shit.

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    the season hasn't affected my earnings in the least, but i have never suffered a money loss from what other dancers do or do not do.

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    The fact that one person may or may not be dishonest about what they REALLY do at work does not, in any way, mean that everyone else is dishonest too. Period.

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    I think blaming another woman for your inability to maintain personal boundaries is pathetic. Sorry.

    Ultimately, it's your respnsability and choice.

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    In Blue, there was a "perfect storm" comment, and it went something like this: The holiday season is here, so bigger earnings are in high demand, so there's an extra opportunity for mileage at the clubs. I think what you're seeing is guys coming in who might be taking that seriously.

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    damn blue site... maybe thats why nipple man was at my work on Friday...

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    I'm just sick of hearing about extras. It's always been around, is around, and will continue to be around. Find your niche, make your money, and that's that! I've never bothered with other girls at work, and do my damnedest! I make money! Regardless of skanky, dick lickin', hand jobbin' cum guzzlin' hoochies! Sorry, couldn't resist! Hee Hee!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Zeno
    In Blue, there was a "perfect storm" comment, and it went something like this: The holiday season is here, so bigger earnings are in high demand, so there's an extra opportunity for mileage at the clubs. I think what you're seeing is guys coming in who might be taking that seriously.
    Yes. Predators using any possible opportunity to take advantage of girls.

    Girls, if you don't like what a guy's doing, don't let it happen. A little money isn't worth your personal sanity and sense of well-being. This will pass.

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    Miabella--Where are you? This season stinks everywhere, so I thought...where are you?

    I think the holidays bring out the worst in people, best time of the year my A**!
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    Well, Bridg, I think "predators" in some instances is accurate; in others, it's a bit harsh. We shop after Christmas at stores that are desperate to unload product. A motorcycle will sell for less in January from a shop that's looking to pay the bills. A pair of skis can be had for a good price in July.

    Some of these guys are just looking for the best deals at the best time. And no, it doesn't mean that the dancer has to cheapen her own production style just to meet the market. In fact, I'd think it would be best for the dancer not to encourage special December behavior.

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    Yeah, Jay. Let's take a little peruse through the trip reports and compare that to buying a jacket. Come on, man.
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    Jenny, I said that "predator" was certainly appropriate in some instances. Define "some" as "most" - doesn't matter to me.

    I don't think it's appropriate in all of them. There are people who post trip reports who have fangs. There are others who are reasonably nice by comparison. It's entirely conceivable (at least to me) that a guy could walk into a strip club on December 15 wondering if he'll get a little more up-close-and-personal experience for flashing his $150 that day. Doesn't mean he's a predator.

    The stuff that was described earlier in the thread, yes, I would describe that as predator-type behavior. I was just trying to throw out one potential reason for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Zeno
    In Blue, there was a "perfect storm" comment, and it went something like this: The holiday season is here, so bigger earnings are in high demand, so there's an extra opportunity for mileage at the clubs. I think what you're seeing is guys coming in who might be taking that seriously.
    *sigh* No wonder. I wish I had saved money during the fall so I could take this month off.

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    You know, I have noticed a major slow down in money and serious asshole customers also during the past two weeks or so. Way more assholes and losers than usual.

    Not to go off topic, but last night there was this group of four guys sitting in the SAME SPOT for about three hours. They didnt move, they didnt interact with any dancers, hell, they didn't even talk to one another. Not one of them tipped a single girl. I was bored so I took it upon myself to fuck with them a little. I approached the group and slid my hand under their asses (between their ass and the chair) of all four of them. They were completely perplexed and mildly excited (*the first show of any emotion since walking in the door*) and I announced, with a sigh of relief,

    "oooh good! I just wanted to make sure your asses hadn't started growing into the chairs. You guys haven't moved all night so I was starting to worry!"

    They looked at me with their same stupid expressionless faces, and I said,

    "NO worries boys! you'll be okay. You can get back to your lame strip club experience now <wink>!"
    groan.

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    ^^^^^^
    I have encountered a group of old men playing cards in my club. I said it: PLAYING CARDS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by justine08
    Miabella--Where are you? This season stinks everywhere, so I thought...where are you?

    I think the holidays bring out the worst in people, best time of the year my A**!
    i'm in houston. in my experience of dancing in houston, it's only really slow april, part of july, and august. the rest of the time i have found earnings to be pretty consistent overall, with income spikes around some holidays (such as now) and some months (sept and oct are exceptionally good for some reason).

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    Girls, we still have to realize and accept that we have fixed expenses every month that must be paid, ( rent/mortgage, insurance, cell phone, utilities, credit card payments, storage, etc.) Ideally many dancers saved several thousand for personal gifts and holiday shopping, but still need to work like normal and make enough to pay the December/early January bills. If we only make $700 for a full week when we normally make $1500, but it keeps us from tapping savings or credit cards for bills, we accomplished something, right?

    As far as extras being more prevalent during the holidays, I don't think the holidays per se cause the extras, but anytime the amount of dancers increases, and the customer count stays the same or decreases, some girls will do more for the money out of necessity. That is just human nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mspussykatus
    Well, EVERYBODY on this board does something in the club that they won't talk about or admit too. I gurantee you that! You all can argue and say that I am wrong, but deep down everyone in the dancing business either has done or does something they are ashamed off. It might be something as little keepig that 30 bottle of lotion someone left i the dressing oom, to do a cut rate when it's slow, to giving the manager head to keep your job, and everything in between. We have all been there. Girls might act ll high and mighty but EVERYONE has dine something. I would like to tell you that it is good that you have a conscience, but in this industry it is not always a good thing, although it is usually is as long as you keep it in check. Do what you have to do, try to do it with class, but do what you have to do. Now go make some money.
    Thank you Mspussykatus! Made me feel so much better and I hope it does for everyone else who felt bad after a bad night full of rude handsy guys.

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