Have any of you stripped your way across Europe? What's the situation with work visas and stuff like that? Which countries are good for dancing without a ton of contact?



Have any of you stripped your way across Europe? What's the situation with work visas and stuff like that? Which countries are good for dancing without a ton of contact?





For the moment at least, the work visa situation for US girls in EU countries is, shall we say, an 'uphill battle'. In order to work legally, you need to obtain an EU work permit which is specific to the country you want to work in. In order to have any chance of obtaining an EU work permit, a potential employer located in that country must 'sponsor' your work permit application. Thus an American wishing to work legally in a EU country must first obtain a firm offer of employment, then the potential employer 'sponsor' must file for the EU work permit, then the American must wait until the EU work permit is issued, before they can legally start working.
From a practical standpoint where EU clubs are concerned, either the legal 'niceties' wind up being ignored (potentially exposing the American girl to legal trouble), or an agency handles the work visa details in exchange for a binding 'sight unseen' contract between an American dancer and the european club wishing to 'import' American dancers.



with the opening of the east europe borders the situation is growing worse....those girls offer extras for as little as 20 euros , so the customers starting to expect that kind of stuff for that money. is gettin tougher for clean dancers.
Its not that difficult to find work in Western Europe, where you can be illegal for a few weeks, or possibly get sponsership. If you are just "travelling through" and are hot, speak multiple languages, and can sell champagne, it can be done. I wouldn't expect too much money either way, but its an interesting way to take a free vacation......
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Originally Posted by Mia M
I've worked in Europe a lot, Cristalla and Kat are exactly right. You can make good money some places, but it's a bit of a crapshoot. There are TONS of Eastern Bloc and Brazilian girls there who will do a lot more than you're willing tooo...plus they're super-hot!
However, if you speak a European language (except Spanish & Portugese), you may be better off, as you'll have less competition (you'll lose the girls who don't know the language).
You can work without visa, they don't check, they just assume. Except in Italy; they used to really crack down on American dancers.
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The clubs in London are pretty strictly non contact { Spearmint nearly lost it's licence there after an undercover police operation}, there are lots of them, and I suspect they are not too fussy about visas. There are lots of Brazilian girls but most seem to have Portuguese passports so are EU members, also most of the Eastern Europeans these days are from Poland and Czech republic which are also EU. There used to be lots of US dancers 10 or 15 years ago but less now. The main problem with UK clubs is the usual one of too high house fees and too many girls creating a bad atmosphere. A better option can be strip pubs like Browns { see www.browns-griffin.co.uk} which has a max of 12 girls per shift and often 200 customers. It's a jug collection stage show place with private dancing also, there are though very fussy { girls who work there are all pretty good} and you would need a visa there.
In lots of Europe like Spain, Greece, Eastern Europe, even Italy most strip places are basically brothels with floor shows. Paris has 3 table dancing clubs and there are some in Belgium and Germany. Look at the site www.strip-magazine.com for more info.
Tyke
^ As I mentioned to Tyke on another board: Browns & Griffins in London don't take girls who are just passing through. No short-termers. You can, of course, tell them you live there, but it takes two weeks from your audition to get put on schedule, so it's probably not worth it if you're just there for a month or two.
At many clubs that require a visa, you can just make a visa number up- they don't generally ask to see it, they just assume that as long as there's a number on the application form, they've done their bit.![]()
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I danced my way all over Europe from the most beautiful places to complete dumps. Just because other girls act like hookers doesn't mean you have to. However, competition is tough. There are many girls from Eastern Europe and they are hard workers and beautiful, not easy to compete I have to say. It is a great way to pay for your trip but do not expect to make a fortune like you can in the U.S. be prepared to compete with a gazillion girls!! Most countries you need a working visa to be able to work, even shit places to work like portugal. It is getting stricter and stricter.
I don't know the situation in the rest of the Europe but in Sweden and Finland it's just a matter of finding the right club. Ask about extras almost as if you're willing to do them yourself. If they're like "Yea but don't tell anyone" it's probably not the club you want to work at, if they look horrified it's worth a shot. There are a lot of strip clubs that offer extras but there's plenty of clean ones, too.
The few clubs I work at in Finland allow masturbation in the VIP rooms. In most if you feel uncomfortable with it you can tell the customer not to do it though. No contact is ever required in any club I've worked at, save for one club that offers lapdances as "tasters" for less money (it's the only club I've come across in Scandinavia that does). They're just topless airdances meant to sell VIPs which are full nudity.
In the club I started at in Sweden it was strictly no contact. It was full nudity but you weren't allowed to actually show anything on stage (you sold private shows by saying they get to see the rest, basically). They had either table dances from about 2 yards away from the customer with security cameras present, or peep shows with a plexiglass between the girl and the custy. You didn't have to do the peepshows if you didn't want to, we had a few table dance girls only.
Some clubs have stricter rules, others basically have no rules. You've got to ask and figure it out yourself. Also none of the clubs I've worked at has asked to see a visa but a few require you to sign a freelance contract saying you alone are responsible for your taxes etc so they wouldn't get in trouble if you get caught. Altho none of the ones that have required me to sign a contract have even asked to see my ID so they wouldn't even know if I was giving them the correct info.
Also one thing to remember is that even if other girls offer some extras it is certainly not required on most clubs. Like mine, the only thing that's required in a VIP is that you get naked if the customer wants you naked, and that you don't touch the customer's genitals and they don't touch yours (so no fucking, sucking, licking allowed either). Everything else is between you and the customer. I know some girls let the custies suck their boobs for the money I take for an airdancebut it's their loss not mine!
Originally Posted by Jo Weldon
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