ahhhhh, you should have said this in the first place....Originally Posted by devoncassidy
you have no chance unless you are a greek shipping heir
ahhhhh, you should have said this in the first place....Originally Posted by devoncassidy
you have no chance unless you are a greek shipping heir





you are 18?
this is sincere advice, from the heart.... forget about her
it might not be easy but it is the right choice

forget it
Strippers are like anyone else. I'll want to get to know a guy for who he is if I met him in school or a library. At work...its our JOB and money talks. We have more respect for someone who knows this and gladly pays for entertainment. Believe me, we hear you all the time. Kinda annoying.Originally Posted by timmusic





It's not time to stop spending money on her until AFTER you are dating her...and at that point you shouldn't be bothering her at work anyway. By all means, if you want to get a chance to get to know this lady you are going to have top spend time with her ITC-this means compensating her for her time and respecting that she is at work and needs to earn.
I'm not saying you have any better than an Ice cube's chance in hell but, for what it's worth, it does happen. Remember the words of TOO, it's gospel in strip clubs. They choose you.
Originally Posted by yoda57us
Yea, thats when it costs more!
But smiles are the coolest!
People are not ruled by their memories.




Originally Posted by timmusic
Okay first off you might as well quit because by your statement which I used for a quote you have a wrong mindset about the entire thing to begin with. This "stripper" that you want to date ( please don't lie as your already bad at it ) is at work, it's called a JOB dude. Really, you have to get that hammered into your little brain. There are no exceptions to that rule, AT WORK - we equate worth with cash. If you don't spend it, see the smoke from my and other other strippers heels. At least those that are worthy.
IE: Since we do equate worth with cash this makes all of us gold-diggers, as you so eloquently put it. So once again you might as well quit. Since your not going to spend a lot, you wont have a snowballs chance in hell of seeing her outside the club. Even if she does like you - once again, if she is worthy.
YES: We have heard it all
YES: You are a mark if you continue to act in a stupid fashion..
I'm not at all trying to be mean to you, I'm simply trying to educate you on the rules of the game man. So you will be better equipped to play and not continue to make a idiot out of yourself.
Miss R.





Youre 18???!! ...Ok I change my mind...just move on. Seriously. Just let that whole idea go. I think every guy who went to their 1st SC was "infactuated" with a specific girl.
you live like an ivy vine
you can only survive by clinging onto trees
that's your flaw
put down some roots so you can stand on your own
-Kenpachi
Yep. Mine was "Cherokee." Tan skin, grey eyes, black hair... Oh oh oh boy...Originally Posted by TigersMilk
I still get a little flutter and that was 20 years ago.
My advice: If you're 18 then go jogging in the park on a hot day. Guaranteed you will see plenty of approachable girls out there and you will be like "Ah who are we talking about? Huh?"
Besides, there are plenty of girls who like to "play stripper" in the bedroom.
Oh, for crying out loud.
Is it that hard to just ask her for a kiss?
I mean that is all you want from her, right?
Give her a big tip, and ask her for it.
She may give it to you.
.................................and then again, she may just keep the money.
Hey, don't worry, it happens.
Got plenty of time, got plenty of time,
no, sweat, I love fresh meat.
Thanks and come back again.
This is my opinion, but the best thing u can do is to simply be yourself... no putting on shows, throwing money around and bragging about what u do for a living or the things you own.... if you are genuinely sincere and have no other motives but to get to know this girl on a friendship level, and then possibly more than that, i think she will be interested in getting to know u as well... yeah its cool when guys have money or if they are super good looking, but it gets old.. I think most girls just want a good man who will support them and be there for them, regardless of any ammount of money... Money does not always buy someone's happiness.
Wow. Impressive. There is so much wrong with that, that I'm not quite sure where to begin.Originally Posted by timmusic
You spend money on dancers because it's their job. Taking care of a dancer in the club financially shows that you understand this basic principle. You should always spend money on the dancers, irrespective of the club. That's why you are there.
This is so important. It's the single most important rule in any club, anywhere.
Slight digression: Several years ago, there was a series of old VHS videos that taught the basic principles of gambling, entitled "So You Want to be a Gambler?" The underlying rule of the method was this: If you want to be a winner, know more about gambling than anybody else in the casino. It was an amusing approach (and a bit of a conceit) but the point was this: Don't walk into the casino and be a dope. Know the rules. Know the math. Be the best gambler in that casino.
My best advice to you is to embrace this philosophy. When you walk into a strip club, be the best damn customer that club has ever seen. Spend like a maniac. Buy rooms and dances. Be polite and respectful to a fault. Tell jokes, smile a lot and listen. Make great conversation. Make sure the dancers have plenty to drink. Take care of everybody.
You are not doing this because you are trying to "buy" a dancer. That isn't your choice, anyway: The dancers make all the decisions about you, not the other way around, trust me. You are doing it because it's the best way to enjoy a club, by far. It's also the best way to show who you are. You know the rules, observe them, are respectful, intelligent, slightly mysterious and borderline crazy. But you are a good time.
Having said all that, please recognize that SCs are never good places to troll for dates. The dancers are just trying to earn a living and deal with a good number of pain-in-the-ass guys who are clueless about the rules. If anything does happen, it's because you've been chosen. In the meantime, enjoy the club for what it is and take care of the dancers. Always.
I got to go with both your opinions, but I think there is a very fine line to walk. Go to far one way and it makes you a cheap asshole. To far the other way makes you a PL first class.Originally Posted by The Other Owner
The rule in the love game is "You simply need to be someone who the other is attracted to." There are no games or gambits to "make" someone fall in love with you. If you think about it, the rule is a smart one because you won't have to put on a mask the rest of your life to keep your partner around.
Dude, Try to stay away from her. I know it is difficult but do it. If you are in love with her as you said, you'll be the one that will get hurt at the end.
When money is involved, it is really difficult to understand one's (dancer or customer) motives. Quit trying before you become more fond of her.
Ok, I want to address a very important yet subtle point that was made here, but would be missed because a lot of people say 'Concider the source'Originally Posted by The Other Owner
And thank you for the inspiration of the lyrics in my new thread.
What TOO said, in short, is you need to have a 'Presence' which you do, but you may not know it yet. But a few club visits, and I garauntee, the dancers will. Your presence isn't defined by how much money you spend, it's defined by how you show up, how you look, what you do, how you act, and finally by your acknowledgement of the environment you are in.
This is what dancers would call 'Down to earth' you're head is clearly up there.
TOO may spend tons of cash, but his presence is only given more oppertunity with that, the rest of us may just have to be patient. I can impart this piece of knowledge on you tho.
And take it from a guy whos best friends are and were dancers some of which he met in the clubs they worked.
If you go into any club, expecting anything beyond the site of some hot women and to lose money. Do. Not. Go. I mean this. In your heart. If you are going to see her for emotional attachment. Have money please, but its better to just not go. For you, AND her. Someone always ends up getting taken advantage of when you grow emotions beyond whats respectful for the environment you're in.
--Mast
People are not ruled by their memories.
The Other Owner and Mastridonicus have the exact correct point of view. Its a strip club, not a bar. First impressions mean a lot to people, and where you meet forms part of that first impression, and where you meet can set a whole different tone to a possible relationship.
Meeting a girl in a stripclub sets a different tone to that relationship. A very different tone. One that is very hard to overcome, if even possible. You're 18. There's a lot of other hot fish in the sea. You've said yourself you haven't even talked with her so the only attraction you can have is physical right now. Find another girl.
Never stand begging for that which you have the power to earn.
The truth lies in a man's dreams... perhaps in this unhappy world of ours whose madness is better than a foolish sanity.
Miguel de Cervantes (1547 - 1616)




Awww.. this thread is so cute! 18-year old gets drug into a Stripclub and falls hopelessly in love with a cute little vixen at the club.
Advice for you buddy- women bring PMS, tampon wrappers, mood swings, and never change the toilet paper roll. You like the g-string and fake tanner of your infatuation? Good, you'll never see it again- just post shower tanner stripes, flannel nightshirts, more containers of hair and beauty products than a bathroom could ever possibly hold, a box of Cheez-It's and three hours a night of "There was this jerk at the club tonight.. blah blah blah."
You should be chasing high-school and college tail for a few years to get this part down first. You're way too young for imagery of picket fences with anyone. Enjoy your youth while ya can, bub.
It doesn't matter if you're somebody in this world, it rather matters you mean the whole world to somebody.
OK, the original poster has been hammered enough, but I just have to say, THIS IS JUST AWFUL ADVICE. I understand where this is coming from: you don't want to be seen as "just a customer" and customers spend money on dancers, so if you don't spend any money, then you're not a customer, right?Originally Posted by nylon-Lover
Right. Instead, you're a cheapskate.
This may not be your intention, but believe me, 99 times out of 100, that's how it will be received. If you're not buying, any competent dancer will move on and find someone who is. Once in a while some customer will do this -- come in with a wild claim about being in love, but doesn't want a dance. I don't bother analyzing their motives anymore, I just vanish in a puff of smoke.
This poem hits home again...
Never fall in love with a Stripper
Part 1-The Encounter
Never fall in love with a stripper son, she's sure to break your
heart.
You'll end up in a coiled web and soon be torn apart.
Her beauty is amazing, her soul it shines intense, her body is a work
of art from which there's no defense.
She'll captivate you with desire; you'll lose your way it seems,
Her pleasantries engulf your thoughts and permeate your dreams.
Imagination running wild, each step she closer moves,
Her eyes enchanting meet yours in fire; she closes on your grove.
The sensuality extreme, the eros so sublime
She welcomes you into her world, a fantasy in time.
She'll placate all your questions, advise you in return,
"You are the only one for her", your passion starts to burn.
Enveloped by her glory, enchantedly demure,
Anticipation takes control and spins a deadly lure.
The club is closing quickly you realize your fate,
You better make your move real quick; it's getting much too late.
You've spent eight hundred dollars, perhaps a little more,
You need two questions answered before you close the door.
What is your real name my dear, and what pray tell your number?
You wait for her polite reply while stifling your "hunger."
"My real name is Vicki*, my number is right here,
I'd love to see you real soon, from me there's none to fear"
"I'll call you in a short time", I state in timid voice,
"I'll take you out to dinner, and you can make the choice."
Part 2
Ouch
Lunches, dinners, shopping, and times spent tenderly,
You really feel you love this girl; she fills your heart with glee.
You've never met a gem like this; you'll never so again,
She's nice, she's warm, she's confident and soon you wonder when?
When will her lips and yours first meet, when will the dream unfold?
When will your bodies meet entwined suffice ecstatic goal?
You need to know, you need to ask, the fever is unkempt,
"Do I mean anything to her or should I now repent?"
And so with courage, truth and hope you pose the query thus,
Do I mean anything to you and what is all this fuss?
"Do you mean anything to me? She whispers in you ear"?
Of course you do you silly boy why else would I be here?
"I now can pay my car loan, my boyfriend's Visa card,
I never need go to a store, not even out my yard."
"You're such a nice and humble guy; you've given me so much,
And all I ever had to give was skin for you to touch.
"I thought you knew this business, I thought you knew the game,
There is nothing of real in this it all is very plain."
"You mean the world to me kind man; it's ALL by my design,
I thank you very much my dear, my little dollar sign!"
Part 3
Epilogue
I still recall our moments, illusions manifold,
and how I let my honest heart refuse to be so cold.
I thought she really liked me, perhaps a hint of love,
I used to think she's heaven sent, an angel from above.
Reality is stark my friend, and sometimes hard to find.
But one thing that I've learned from this, sweet strippers make us
blind.
So take my words to heart; Believe! And stop a sec to think,
Is what you feel, the real thing, or brought on by 6 drinks.
Have fun, enjoy, partake of life, be in control of you
And never let a stripper in, because they are like glue.
Never fall in love with a stripper son, she'll always break your heart
You'll always be her ATM at whom she'll aim her dart!





^^ actually, there is no need to keep posting this poem over and over and over and over and over and over again.... it was good the first time you posted it, though.
I never saw it!Originally Posted by dlabtot





^^^ now that you have, how many times would you like for him to repost it?



Dude,forget about her,she probably is married or already has a boyfriend.
what's with the negativity around here...
I know a lot of folks around here are jaded.. and the reading the saga of "Oh, i want to date a stripper" again is about as appealing as a car ride on Highway 5 with Regis and Kelly after they ate a stack of bean burritos, but he's 18, he's enthusiastic...
Please don't crush his what seems to be an earnest question and desire. Encourage him, it may have low odds of working out, but hey dude.. life is about playing the tough ones... so here's my advice.
BE A MAN, and be confident, smile look her in teh eye and talk to her.. see where it goes..![]()
and if she breaks your heart.. learn from it and move on.. Trust me its happened to all of us. I have dated a few dancers, and many non dancers.. and honestly, outside of the fact that they worked at a SC.. they were JUST good decent women. one of them was a great cook, another went on to become a model.. so who knows what and where life will take you or them.





There is a difference between dating a stripper and dating a woman who happens to be a stripper.
You can't love something you think is flawless - me
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