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    Weight issues (split from am I too fat)

    I have split this thread from the original in the Newbie Board as the following posts concern general weight issues . . . Susan Wayward

    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer
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    This universal truth should be a sticky.

    And before anyone jumps in with that retarded "men like variety" fallacy, let's acknowledge that it's true--as I'd noted in another thread on the Blue Side, men indeed like variety when it looks like Bridgette, TFD or NinaDaisy, but not when the girls look like the "Before" photos from a Hydroxycut advertisement.
    I'm sorry, what was tactful about this comment, or the one by Bridgette that you so ringingly endorsed? Have I misunderstood what "tact" means? I always thought it had something to do with giving truthful responses that WEREN'T offensive, not looking for excuses to be abusive to people. But, hey - it is already eminently clear that I have very different ideas about how it is NICE to interact with people than you do.

    The tidbit I was referring to was "if you have to ask if you are fat, then you are" - even on this board this is obviously not true, and a cursory search through the lounge, body business and Ladies Only will reveal many threads by women suffering from eating disorders, who have had occasion to "ask" or doubt their body shape even when dangerously thin. Sometimes people need reassurance EVEN if they are not actually hugely fat or ugly. (Tell the truth - how many women on this board have EVER asked if they look fat? Anyone? Hmm. Maybe EVERYONE?)
    And if you respond to a direct question with an honest, tactful and direct answer you have no empathy and therefore suffer from conceit and arrogance? This is a ridiculous leap of logic.
    This just makes no sense in the context of what I said. I said if you have never felt the need for reassurance then you are unbelievably conceited, and somewhat abnormal (and not in a benign way). If you have, then you might have a little empathy for other people who need to.

    And I did actually read the post and look at her (small, and bad quality) pictures. She is obviously a very pretty girl, and from I could tell from the one picture that showed her body she is not fat.

    And to go back to your "men like variety" thing. Not all men like bombshells. Or rather, they may all like them, but that is not all there is to women. I've worked with beautiful women. With like serious stress on the first sylllable (which is how indicate that I really mean something). One woman I worked with, every time she smiled at me she made me giggle like a nervous 12 year school boy (and I saw her smile every day for like 6 hours). And every day there were a couple guys who didn't even notice she was in the room because I was sitting next to them. Seriously - I am the position to know: men actually DO like variety. This fact pays my rent. If all men liked was Bridgette and TFD I'd be homeless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crissychan
    I lost weight before I went back to dancing but I did it healthy with working out and eating right.... I work with buffie and can totally agree that she looks better than 90% of our size 8's easily. I was a 11/12 when I left dancing and am now a 5/6 and it is still hard to keep off. Buffie your a total hottie!
    Thanks sweetie, you know I love you! I just get a little peeved hearing all these girls talking about sizes they thingk there are cuts offs and such, I also agree with Jenny. We should be helping to improve self images and esteem instead of encouraging bad habits by telling girls they should be a certain size. Certainly we all know that there are designers(this would be most in the US, opposed to other countries) that make their sizes alot smaller to sell their product and increase buyer morale. So saying size 8 is cutting it close, imo is bull b/c your size 8 is someones elses size 3, 5 or 10.

    Not to mention Chrissy is soo understating her achievements on weight loss, she looks awesome and worked dam hard for it. She is confident and no doubt a top earner and these attributes are what will keep her at the top. Look up to girls like her, listen to all feedback but don't give up and by no means, if you have to ask if you are too fat does it make it true. What women has never doubted herself?

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    Very well said, Jenny. As usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffie06
    We should be helping to improve self images and esteem instead of encouraging bad habits by telling girls they should be a certain size. Certainly we all know that there are designers(this would be most in the US, opposed to other countries) that make their sizes alot smaller to sell their product and increase buyer morale. So saying size 8 is cutting it close, imo is bull b/c your size 8 is someones elses size 3, 5 or 10.
    Yes but at the same damn time, I will NOT sit here and tell a girl that it's ok to be fat either. Since that is by far much more dangerous health-wise for a person that being thinner and in shape.

    And my opinions have NOTHING to do with increasing buyer morale or any of that bullshit. IT's purely medical.

    I have been fat, I hated it, I hated myself, clothes cost more, among other things. That time of my life was the only time I felt like killing myself, honestly. Now, I am smaller, fitter, and happier. I can look in the mirror and smile.

    Losing weight is not only good for your body, it's good for your mind.
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    i hate that we are going by sizes.... first of all, when i was 16 i weighed less than a 100 pounds... im 5'4" and i was a size FIVE.... couldnt go lower cuz of my body shape... and NO i wasnt fat... people carry their sizes differently, they carry their weight differently... unfortunately, mine is in my butt and hips... not gonna change that any time soon... but some carry it in their chests... or their butt and chests.... so what does size mean? personally, i'd take an hourglass shape with nice tits and a round ass with a pretty face, who knows how to dress to flatter her figure, rather than a skanky size 0 who's ugly as hell (none of which ive seen here.... well except for princess jefflina, lol)


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    I feel I need to speak up and confess that around five months ago, before auditioning myself, I also posted a "thin enough to strip?" thread.(http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52432). I did so because my visits to the clubs were insanely intimidating, and I had not learned the difference between what a dancer looks like across the room on stage and what she looks like under fluorescent lights in the dressing room (the difference still amazes me sometimes).

    At the time I was 5'8" and 139llbs. The replies were kind and encouraging, and gave me the added push to inquire for a job (I got hired as fast as I could produce my ID card). Now I am about fifteen pounds lighter, but that's because I've been sick. I am not a 'skinny' dancer, but I am a lot thinner than many other girls at my club. (At this weight I am thin enough to have my family tell me I'm too damn thin).

    I know every club is different, and some are pickier than others, but it seems to me women are often a lot pickier about their own bodies.

    It is probably a self-conscious newbie mistake to post the question in a thread like this, but for me it was enough of a wake-up call to actually go through with the whole dancing thing, and I am very happy that I have. So it's not totally useless, if a little self-indulgent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kitana
    Yes but at the same damn time, I will NOT sit here and tell a girl that it's ok to be fat either. Since that is by far much more dangerous health-wise for a person that being thinner and in shape.

    And my opinions have NOTHING to do with increasing buyer morale or any of that bullshit. IT's purely medical.

    I have been fat, I hated it, I hated myself, clothes cost more, among other things. That time of my life was the only time I felt like killing myself, honestly. Now, I am smaller, fitter, and happier. I can look in the mirror and smile.

    Losing weight is not only good for your body, it's good for your mind.
    I agree with completely this however, my comments were directed towards those who think size 8 is pushing it for dancers. Emphasis should not be on clothing sizes imo.

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    I think that you're beautiful. If you believe that, and have a good attitude you will make money and enjoy yourself. Some men like voluptuos women, some don't. Some men like skinny girls, some don't. Strut your stuff. You'll know who's interested. I make more money having just had a baby (ok 5 months ago, but still carrying some weight) then I did a year ago at 100 lbs, with a flat tummy and no stretch marks. It's because of my attitude now. I loosened up, amd have fun with my job now. Give it a try. I'd buy a lapdance from you!

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    thanks guys
    I'm not starving myself because some girls said I was fat.
    If I was that weak I shouldnt dance.
    I wasnt sure if they had a requirment to work at a club or not.
    It would have been embarrassing if I went to a dive and was told I couldnt audition cause I was to fat.
    Mainly I wanted to prepare myself for disappointment.

    Alot of girls assumed I was an insecure little girl
    trying to be reassured that i wasnt fat,
    like I gave a damn.
    lol
    Lots of love to all you girls that still have enough dignity left
    to be able to respond in a civilized manner.
    Thank you for clearing up the thought that i had to be a stick to dance.
    That'll be all.
    Gracias'
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyisGood
    I think that you're beautiful. If you believe that, and have a good attitude you will make money and enjoy yourself. Some men like voluptuos women, some don't. Some men like skinny girls, some don't. Strut your stuff. You'll know who's interested. I make more money having just had a baby (ok 5 months ago, but still carrying some weight) then I did a year ago at 100 lbs, with a flat tummy and no stretch marks. It's because of my attitude now. I loosened up, amd have fun with my job now. Give it a try. I'd buy a lapdance from you!

    You go girl!

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    Healthy and sexy come in a variety of dress sizes and weights. Marilyn Monroe was a size 12 in her day, that translates into a size 14 today. To say that dress size X is too big is like saying weighing over 115 lbs is too heavy. It all depends on the individual.

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    Actually, that size 12 back then is more like a size 6 today. Just wanted to clear up that little myth that keeps going around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan Wayward
    Actually, that size 12 back then is more like a size 6 today. Just wanted to clear up that little myth that keeps going around.
    Dammit, you're right... I'm HUGE!!! I'm gonna go cry while eatting a pint of Hagen Daaz! Just kidding!

    My point is, I know plenty of gals that are a size 10 and are damn hot. Just because your tag says you're a size 8 or more doesn't mean you're overweight, unhealthy, or unattractive. Just like weight, it all depends on how you carry it.

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    Yes, it is all about proportion; a nice, tight and toned size 12 is hotter than an out-of-shape flat-assed 4. Being in a healthy weight range with a healthy body fat percentage is much more important that what the scale or tag says.

    I just remember reading an article a few years ago where this female reporter went to look at Marilyn Monroe's clothes and confirmed that they were nowhere near a contemporary size 12, hah. But she certainly did have a more voluptuous and full figure than, say, Nicole Kidman. And that, fortunately, is still popular with many men.

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    LOL, I know this is an old thread...but the "Marilyn myth" ticks me off. The whole "she was plus size! blah blah blah" thing is untrue...was she curvy? yes. But she had a a waist size between 23 and 24 inches at the height of her career...how many women have that and are considered plus size?

    It's fine to admire plus size models and all that...but I kinda feel bad for Marilyn, because she worked her ass of to be thin, to be considered plus sized now.

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    i love conversations like this. for those whove seen me around i've said repeatedly i'm not dancing yet until i loose weight (i am currently 170lbs at 5'3" which technicaly is obese) move people belive i am 130lbs. i carry it as an hour glass figure which thankfuly gives me a more slimming appearance but heres the funny part. at high school i was about 125, my heaviest a few years later was 195 and all the while my breast size was exactly the same, i would have been happy being fat if my boobs went above a B cup

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