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    My father taught me as a young lad to "take care of your bartenders and waitresses and they'll take care of you." Although he never really expressed it, I doubt that he would have had any problems with me extending that same advice to dancers.

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    I understand the view of some that since the poster rarely goes to a club may not have the same view as someone who goes on a more regular basis. I usually go to a club a few times a month and regularly spend $1000 or more. People from all walks of life go the club. Some have plenty of money some don’t. I am always amazed at how many guys will drink the same beer for 3 hours and not tip anyone. If someone cannot afford to tip without being late on rent then they should stay out of the clubs.

    Customers need to realize that the girls pay to be able to dance. The house fees and tip out can cost the dancer most of her tips, especially on a slow day. Stripping is hard work. Even if it wasn’t it is what they do for a living. Many dancers have to support a family, including paying daycare while they dance. It is not necessary to tip every dancer, but you should show appreciation if you enjoy the show. If you want a free show then watch PBS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris
    Although I don't expect every customer to tip me, I do expect that if you are enjoying my show, there is only one way for me to understand that, by tipping. Not tipping a dancer while she strips is the equivelent of being booed off the stage. Not nice and very insulting.

    Would you boo and hiss at a dancer who is nude in front of you? Then show her a little respect and throw a $1 on the stage. Sheesh, you can't even buy a cup of coffee for a buck!
    Well said Paris! I totally agree. At my club there are times when I get to the stage and guys leave it. One dancer asked if it hurt my feelings. My response, "hell no" I would rather you not sit at the tip rail to watch "my goodies" while I dance nude on the stage when you have no interest in me at all.

    Also, when I'm on stage dancing, if no one is tippin I'm not doin anything special on stage. There are some guys who will sit next to the guy who is tipping, and when I go to dance in front of the tipper, Mr. Free-bie wants to look too. I don't let that happen though.

    I also don't play that "hold a dollar out, take it back in" game that alot of guys play. If you want to place the dollar on stage, do it. If not don't waste my time thinking youre going to get more of a show outta me by thinking that I'm going to stick around in hopes that you will lay the bill down. Puh-leeze

    Oh, and don't even get me started on the guy who lays a whole bill fold of singles out next to his beer, but doesn't lay out a single dollar. I'm not fooled by this tactic.







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    I think it is incumbent upon the dj's to constantly remind the custies that they are not to sit at the rail unless they are tipping... I mean let's face it, not only are people cheap, poor, or whatever, a lot of guys are half brain-dead to begin with, add alcohol and the overstimulation of the strip club... Im not saying not to blame them, just that a little nudge towards tipping every few minutes can go a long way... I've seen the guys pony up the bills many times after they were prompted this way.

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    See, and here I was thinking I was a fairly good customer.

    I pay a $15 cover, plus 2 drinks at $6 each, which means $54 for me and my boyfriend to just be there (I know the girls see none of that money, I'm just saying that it takes away from the amount we can give the girls)
    I tip in ones, but frequently during the set, so the girl gets around $15 from me.

    Now seeing that people tip in $5s or even $20s makes me feel cheap!

    I know this probably isn't the right topic to ask this, since it's about rail tipping.. but what's a good tip for a private dance? I tip $10 for a $20 dance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nephy
    I know this probably isn't the right topic to ask this, since it's about rail tipping.. but what's a good tip for a private dance? I tip $10 for a $20 dance.
    That's a very good tip Nephy. Don't consider yourself a cheap-o. You're aiight with me But seriously alot of customers don't tip AT ALL after having gotten a dance. A few dollars on top of my private dance fee gets a nice "thank you" from me.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Nephy
    I tip in ones, but frequently during the set, so the girl gets around $15 from me.

    Now seeing that people tip in $5s or even $20s makes me feel cheap!
    I can assure you with 98% certainty that the guys here claiming to tip larger bills than George at the stage are not doing that for everybody. When they do, its usually because the dancer is a favorite of theirs, or they're trying to get the dancer's attention to come over to their table for private dances when she's done.

    As long as you're tipping graciously, singles are okay.
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    Nephy, you sound like a great customer to me.

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    Thanks guys, I feel much better now.

    I was afraid that I had pissed off every dancer I'd ever met.

    I wish I could tip with $20's, but if I did, I'd be out of there in about 5 minutes. No fun at all.

    And now that I think about it, tipping in ones equalling $15 isn't any different than tipping in $5's, but only once per song. I'm sure the guys tipping in $5s don't do it several times during one song (or at least most of them).

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    As Grace (lmao by the way) had referred to the feller who seemingly thinks tipping is what "you do to cows"...Equ-whatever you are, you DO pay Tom Cruises' salary, he gets paid to do the film...this 'check' he recieves comes from your meagear spending (which is seemingly what you are good at besides making inncorrect argumentative remarks) ...Most dancers are NOT paid by the club, and furthermore the dancers PAY to work there...so NO, you do NOT pay to see the girl, you pay for "rental" of said club chair you take up valuable air sitting in!
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    OH--for the rest of the fellers and lady's...you all have your own opinions, and no argument on that...Bravo to those who understand and respect what we do!
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    If I'm sitting stageside, they get at least a buck out of me or more if I think they're hot. My faves are the only one's who get fives or additional tips after multiple laps sometimes. If I'm not feeling the particular dancer, I tip her, then when she walks away, I find myself a chair in the dark, and wait for my faves to come to me.

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    Default Re: Guys, we need to tip more!

    If I'm sitting stageside (which I rarely do) then I am defacto checking out every dancer that comes by. A minimum of $1 per dancer is in order.

    If I'm sitting at my table and not really paying attention to the stage show, then I don't feel obligated to get up and tip the stage performers. Nor am I obligated to tip a dancer who is doing her walkabout and happens to stop by my table and pull out her garter.

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    I've been reading through this thread and I was amazed to see how things are so different between the states and Montreal:

    1. Tipping stage shows in Montreal is very rare. Actually, I only saw people from the states tipping.
    2. Customers tend to avoid stage seats in Montreal and prefer the tables.
    3. Dancers here make their money from private dances. I don't know about the situation in the states, but many, if not most of the customers take private dances.
    4. Clubs don't ask customers to tip the grils on stage neither, nor to buy private dances. The clubs make their money from selling drinks. They don't push you neither to buy a drink. I saw clients nursing their beer for almost 2 hours.
    5. Stage shows are more an opportunity for the dancers to attract more clients to buy private dances after the show. Still, many girls hate stage shows.
    6. Girls cannot avoid stage shows (generally). The SCs don't get a percentage of the money made by the girl doing lap dances. So, the girls have to do stage shows (around 4) to keep the clients in. Stage shows is like the fee the girl has to pay to the club to be able to work there (dancers still pay money to work, around 20 $CDN, but they can easily get it back after dancing a single client).
    So, our cultures are very different when it comes to stripping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spiderman05
    I've been reading through this thread and I was amazed to see how things are so different between the states and Montreal:

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    So, our cultures are very different when it comes to stripping.
    While there are some quirky regional differences, often caused by local ordinances, your list is actually very representative of most clubs in the U.S. Why is tipping the stage part of the culture down here? (although as I've stated earlier, we seem to be getting away from this, particularly in larger clubs). I think it has somewhat to do with the fact that we have a $1 bill, and Canada does not. Its a little bit uneconomical to tip the stage when four tips will equal the price of a private dance, as opposed to twenty. Also if those Americans you saw were tipping with Canadian fives, take into consideration that's only about $3.50 US.
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    I think the comparison with Tom Cruise is a good one. If you like him as an actor and want to see his movie you go up to the theater and pay for a ticket. If you don't like him you don't go. The same is true for me when I am at a club. I will tip the ladies I am interested in, if not I stay away from the stage. This is the U.S. and how a free market system works. Those that have a better product make the money and force out the competition. However, this does not excuse the loser that sits there and watches for free either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eques
    Paying a cover fee entitles people to the show. Tipping is optional. My opinion and mine alone. My opinion also is that expecting people to pay you specifically in addition to what they already paid just to walk in the door is indeed self-righteous.
    First off the cover allows you access to the bar, not to the show. If it were in fact, access to the show; us girls would get a cut of the door money, but we do not.

    This is not "Strippers on Ice", nor is it the Ballet. You did not get a ticket to see the show when you paid cover. The doorguy is not Ticketmaster.

    We do not get a cut of the cover, therefore when you pull that macho bullshit about "I paid cover I don't have to tip"; well guess what I don't have to get nakkie, nakkie if I don't get mine.

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    ^^ Right on!!







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    Quote Originally Posted by kitana
    First off the cover allows you access to the bar, not to the show.
    According to who? I don't pay a cover for any other bar in town. The stripclub? Cover. How is it different? Dancers. Cover = Show.

    If it were in fact, access to the show; us girls would get a cut of the door money, but we do not.
    Renegioate your contract if you think you deserve a cut. Otherwise your 'point' is a red herring.

    This is not "Strippers on Ice", nor is it the Ballet. You did not get a ticket to see the show when you paid cover. The doorguy is not Ticketmaster.
    Uh huh, Its 'Strippers on Stage', not ice.

    We do not get a cut of the cover, therefore when you pull that macho bullshit about "I paid cover I don't have to tip"; well guess what I don't have to get nakkie, nakkie if I don't get mine.
    If only people were capable of actually reading those they quote.


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    Quote Originally Posted by justine08
    As Grace (lmao by the way) had referred to the feller who seemingly thinks tipping is what "you do to cows"...Equ-whatever you are, you DO pay Tom Cruises' salary, he gets paid to do the film...this 'check' he recieves comes from your meagear spending (which is seemingly what you are good at besides making inncorrect argumentative remarks) ...Most dancers are NOT paid by the club, and furthermore the dancers PAY to work there...so NO, you do NOT pay to see the girl, you pay for "rental" of said club chair you take up valuable air sitting in!
    Assumptions about me that you have made that are incorrect

    "I believe dancers are paid by the club", funny I think that dancers are paid via the customers who tip and buy dances. Dancers are saleswoman working on commission.
    "I don't know that some dancers pay fees", funny but I do know that. I've read here far to much to not know that. Doesn't change a damn thing. Plenty of peolpe have to pay upfront costs to do business. Besides which all that fee is is a sale by the club to let you attempt to earn money.
    "I don't tip" Perhaps if you had read my posts you would know differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish
    I think that we have to draw a distinction between legal obligations and ettiquette guidelines. If one wants to be technical, once a customer has paid his door cover and drink minimum, he is as Eques stated, under no obligation to spend another cent unless some rule mandated by the club says otherwise (such as the one AudreyLeigh mentioned).
    Thank you. People are having a difficult time drawing a distinction between obligations and moral inclinations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eques
    According to who? I don't pay a cover for any other bar in town. The stripclub? Cover. How is it different? Dancers. Cover = Show.



    Renegioate your contract if you think you deserve a cut. Otherwise your 'point' is a red herring.



    Uh huh, Its 'Strippers on Stage', not ice.



    If only people were capable of actually reading those they quote.


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    Man, your loosing focus.

    This is a problem I had with my EX (who ironically, was a stripper). WE would argue about stupid shit, that I knew I was right about.

    however you have to keep your eye on the big picture.

    In my ex's case, the point isn't to be RIGHT, it's to get though the day without killing each other, and if all goes right, get some nookie later that night.

    You don't get nookie when your GF is at her mom's telling her mom how much of an asshole you are because you are always arguging (Trust me, i know)

    What I am getitng at is, you might be right in the grand scheme of things.

    But if you are right, it's not like the President is going to get on national tV and pass new laws with what you were right about. Strip clubs are still going to be the same. They still work the same, always will.

    The point is to keep the waitresses, bartenders and espically the women showing their tit's, as happy as possible. Regardless of if you think you should or not.

    If you don't like not tipping, don't go. Watch and download porn, you can always pick the tips up when you are done with them.

    You have a resorucse that alot of guys are too stupid to find.. and that is a board, full of some of the smartest, hottest (cough cough AudreyLeigh cough) exotic dancers in the US, and you are FIGHTING with them on what's right and what's wron g?

    Get a pen and paper and take notes and soke up as much info from them as you can

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    tipping is good,Im sure it makes the dancers/performers feel good and it also makes me feel good somehow.

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    NOT BEING FUNNY OR ANYTHING

    but since I have started working at a "black club" I have went from at most 15 dollars on stage from a PACKED house at 4play in West LA to 5-20 dollars per guy thats in the club in East LA....

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    All clubs are different. Not every club charges a cover all the time. Some clubs will have a drink minimum. Many clubs will encourage people to tip the dancers. When one goes out to dinner and is served by a waitress you are not required to tip the waitress. Many nice restaurants will have other people that serve you whom also get tips, even if it is on a pool basis. If it is so hard for someone to afford the food then they should eat elsewhere. If a $5 beer cuts into one’s rent money then they should buy a six pack on the way home or do without. If a few bucks to a few dancers cause one financial hardship then one may need to reconsider the logic in spending $5 for a beer.

    One thing to remember is that the dancers are there to make money. They watch who is and is not spending money. Not tipping and not getting dances will get someone labeled as being cheap quickly. They do make fun of and gossip about people who do not tip. I have always found their conversations entertaining. I would not want to be the subject of those conversations.

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