i ask guys, "What do you do for a living?" a few have gotten weird, but not many. It did, however, get me wondering, am i jeopardizing the sale by asking about info that may be considered too personal?





i ask guys, "What do you do for a living?" a few have gotten weird, but not many. It did, however, get me wondering, am i jeopardizing the sale by asking about info that may be considered too personal?
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I don't ask outright...I may rub a guy's neck a little and ask, "Long day?". The usual response is, "MMM...yeah."
A guy tonight said that yes, it was a long day--he worked two jobs, UPS and retail. I can take it from there--Wow, this past month must have been exhausting for you...well, you know what they say: work hard, play hard....and then I'm making the sale.
It's a good way to relax a guy and get him volunteering info about himself.
If it a group of business men, I may ask them what it's like being a touring rock band. Dorky, but they like it.
It's usually ok to ask what the guy does for a living, but make sure you get a feel for him first- some guys may not what to say what they do because they are embarassed by their job or are unemployed. Also, while it is ok to ask what the guy does, most guys go to strip clubs to relax and have a good time- they may not want to sit there and talk about work- they may just want to get their mind off of work.
I avoid talking about his work. He's come in to relax, forget about his stresses. When I'm out at a bar trying to unwind I hate the question. Besides it may seem like a ploy to find out how much $$ he has.





I concur - avoid the work question. There are plenty of other questions you can use to have him volunteer information about himself and therefore enable you to continue the conversation. I've always felt that work is the last thing they want to speak about in a strip club where they obviously want to get away from reality.
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I was wondering this, too
just think....how do you feel when someone who is selling you something asks what you do?
Makes me feel like a mark.
Oh dear....
Now I feel bad...
lol, usually asking them what they do is one of my first questions!![]()
Ok, so what DO you ask a custy then if not about their work?
Most of the custys i get want that 'personal' feel to it. Asking my first name and such about me right off the bat. (i've found saying, "Well, my MIDDLE name is Diane" usualy works to satisfy them. hehe, some will even give me THEIR middle name)
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Yup you got it. If I'm new to an area, I have my guard up and try not to get scammed so the two worst questions you could ask me right off the bat.
1) What do you do?
Translates to: How much money can you give me?
2) Where are you from/How long are you in town?
Translates to: Do I have to treat you like a regular or can I scam you because your gone tommorrow anyway?
Of course all these questions are great once I have bought 5 dances, just don't ask them while you are getting to know me.




Ouch. I always ask a guy "so what do you do". I understand they're there to relax and may not want to think about work. But I look at it from another angle too--if you've spent your life working at something, it's nice to be acknowledged for it and have someone ask interesting questions about it. Most guys seem to appreciate it when I ask further questions about their job after the initial "so what do you do" question. That way it doesnt make them feel like a money bag or an idiot if they're not one.
Some secondary questions:
So how long have you been doing that?
Are you in sales, management, etc?
How did you get into that line of work?
How does that work?
Corporate or residential? (for contractors, construction, etc etc. this applies to a lot of kinds of businesses)
Do you enjoy your work?
A LOT of the secondary questions depend upon what they say they do. I realized that when attempting to make a list. oh well. Because I often ask about jobs, I have learned more and more in the months i've been dancing and so i've been able to ask better questions. Often the guy is surprised that I know what to ask instead of just going "Oh, that's cool" when he tells me what he does.
I often stay on the topic for about a minute or two, sometimes longer if the guy really wants to talk about it. I think it validates the guy if anything. For instance, ANY time someone tells me they just opened a business, went into business for themselves, or any other rendition of that, even if I think they're bull****ing me, I tell them CONGRATULATIONS, that's awesome. I bet you worked really hard to do that. etc etc etc. validation. recognition. big smiles from the dumb girl. yep. they feel like the king.
Yikes, I ask that question too -- as well as whether or not they are from the area. I don't even mean it to find out whether they have money or not, I just lack creativity sometimes and it seems an easy question to ask, because than you can find out more about them/their interests. It's hard to always be on point with the creativity, especially as it gets later LOL. Sometimes I try to phrase it differently, as what do you like to do? Perhaps to learn a bit more about their interests, because I have thought about how the "what do you do" question may seem a bit like "how much money do you make?" even if I don't mean it that way.
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Questions such as this has to be followed by a warm up question.
You havee to first approach and talk and gain his confidence.
And have to convicne him that you are wonderful.
Truly wonderful.
To do this, you first start with a witticism, a joke or two,
get him to laugh and loosen himself up.
And some will tell you, some won't.
Truly, I don't really care how a guy gets his money.
As long as I get his. That is, after all what my job is , to get his money.
If he wants to tell me, he done one million years in Sing Sing,
got plenty of back pay and he is here to spend it and have good time
because he is going to have a multiple bypass heart operation
tomorrow in the morning and he wants to spend spend, like
this is his last night on earth.
I would say, come on honey, this is the right place for you,
let me sit on you and make all your worries go away.
Come on, baby, lets shake it, yeah, lets shake it.
And by the end, I would have cleaed $600 just off him.
Clear the way, baby, clear the way.
I don't want to hijack this thread but I would like to add some questions I prefer over "where are you from and what do you do."
1.) Long day at work today?
2.) Ask him if he has ever been to (plug in your favorite destination here)?
3.) What's the score on the game?
4.) Can I sit with you?
5.) What do you like to do for fun besides come here?
Also be ready to answer these questions as well.





Actually, there is a difference between talking about their JOB and their WORK and based on how you ask that question will determine the answer. I belive that asking about their job is not always a good idea because, for the most part, many people don't want to equate their job to their life outside of their work environment. Many people come into a SC for the sole purpose of escaping the 9 to 5 world. This being said, talking about the type of work they do is usually something most people usually enjoy talking about. It's a pretty big difference in emotions conjured up actually where one can be very negative and one is very positive. I've seen studies that show most people hate their job but enjoy their work which usually means that they enjoy their field of expertice or chosen profession and yet are unhappy in their specific work environment or "job". In other words, I may love talking about computer programming but hate talking about my computer programming working for Widgetsoft. So, how does this equate to you? It is all in how you ask the question.
By asking, "What do you do for a living?" you are asking the person specifically about their job. As a result, you are now most likely conjuring up negative thoughts which will be obvious in how the customer responds to you. A more efficient sales tactic is to not ask the question like this, rather to ask the question like, "So, what kind of work do you do?". Even though the difference between the two questions is subtle, the type of question being asked is dramatic. The first way, "what do you do for a living" eludes to their actual job whereas "what kind of work do you do" eludes to a lifestyle and career choice that they most likely enjoy talking about. Getting a customer to talk about what they like is one of the key components to gaining rapport and making a sale. By using this system, you'll get better results.
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how many guys out there do you think , honestly, tell you their real profession? Im sure most of us just lie.
?no?





hmmm all these comments have great insight. i really like what kind of work someone is in as opposed to a specific job title, because most times ill say, "so what do you do for a living?" and they will answer and fire the same question right back at me, haha. and then i have the urge to respond with things that i know will not help in selling a dance or vip room![]()
i also found that i got more positive response when i ask what brings them in tonight instead.
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dancerwealth is right. i often ask as an icebreaker 'what kind of work/stuff do you do for money?' and it builds rapport. a guy may say 'oh i'm a shipping clerk' and then i will say something like 'ah, so you make sure people get what they need when they really need it. that is SO COOL AND AWESOME'! and then the guy feels like his job actually is a valuable and interesting thing and then he gives me money and we are both happy.




I don't ask a first-time custy about his work. He might feel like he is being sized up.
For all you know, he might be a pizza delivery guy who has $500 to burn. If he feels as if you are judging him by his job (whether you are or are not), he will not spend that money on you.




I ask this question frequently. Most of my clientele are here-on-business people who come in like clockwork on certain days. No matter what the answer, I will want repeat business and will treat you like a king to get it.Originally Posted by GuyPOV
I usually ask what their hobbies are first, or what they do for fun. And when they say they like working on their motorcycle, playing guitar or collecting stamps, etc, I ask if they ever consider doing that as a profession. Because you should always do what you love to do, and that's why I work HERE.
haha!
it's silly, but guys seem to respond well to that approach.
They will share their career choices when they are ready. An uptight business guy is LESS apt to want to talk about work. The laid back dude in sweats and a Kangol hat is MORE likely to talk about his work, from my experience.
From there, you can attempt to find common ground and relay your knowledge of his hobbies or profession.
"You ride? That's really cool! My father has a custom Harley he's always working on in the garage. He's in the process of re-wiring the headlights. I took a ride on it a few times. The freedom of being on the road with the wind in your hair is amazing!" (or some crap). Always relate their interests to your own life experiences if you can. Keep it positive.
If he doesn't want to tell you what he does for a living, try to guess in a cutesey way. Remember, the bum wants to be treated like a prince and vice versa.
That's probably the best advice I can give on the subject.
I trust you but unfortunately when I fly into a town and I'm looking for a little late night fun I can't tell you apart from the scammers. Because the scammers love to ask where are you from so they can decide if they are going to give regular service or some weak crappy service by: starting songs late, stopping songs early, ordering water drinks, misleading about VIP and asking you to tip their friends. I could go on.Originally Posted by Lizette
Very true. If I'm asked "What do you do for a living?" right off, I'm thinking "50% chance she's making idle chatter; 50% chance she's evaluating what I can spend." It's not that great of an opener.Originally Posted by Lizette
The other problem is that suppose the guy is a minister, or a city councilman, or a public official with some visibility. He's not going to want to be identified for any number of good reasons. Now he's uncomfortable and maybe fumbling for an answer. Not good.
I have the most disgust with this question, cause I often go into long tyrades about my job for no apparent reason, and honestly, no one cares. However when coupled with the question of my age I end up having to explain it.
The other night I decided to answer the question direct. I ended up finding out about her aspirations and next thing I knew I was dishing out advice till I ended it with a clever anecdote .
Normally my two answers are 'Third date',
or 'I'm a lion tamer.' Followed by a head shake and a air bite. I figure if she sticks around after that, she's go the sense of humor I need.
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ok basically im an unemployed loser but when i go to clubs,and they ask me what my job is i tell them im a rocket scientist and they go like:Wow!!! and inside their minds they r like"hmm this guy got lot of money"





I always ask what type of work they do and they reply all the time with no problems.But then again,I live in a tourist based town that attracts a lot of conventions and conferences.
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I don't care for this line of conversation either. Generally, if I give my profession then this is followed by questions about exactly where I work (My town is kinda small). Not that this is that big a deal, but I can see a co-worker getting the same treatment from the same dancer. Then she might spill the beans about me, then I'll be the guy at work who gets lap dances and splooges all the time. I know it's rediculous, but hey ... I'm a very private person.
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