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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizette
    What I've learned:

    1. Hold out both sides of my thong for tips.
    2. Spend less time no matter what the other girls do.
    3. Be snotty if they have to dig in their wallets, make me wait, and then ask for change for a $5.
    4. Have clever comebacks.
    5. If they still do not tip after said clever comebacks, move on and don't sweat it.
    Clever comebacks, wit & humor are all well and good.

    Have to admit that I'm not a fan of #3. I'm all for getting up and moving on if a customer cops an attitude over tipping more, but I'd still recommend doing in it without being snotty. Yeah that guy might no longer be worth your time, but the guy sitting next to him, may have been still deciding who he was gonna spend his private dance money on, so you might hurt your chances with other potential customers. #5 seems to be the best way to go IMO.
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    If there are a lot of customers, some times it pays to put on a little show, get them all hooked and really really hoping you'll go over to them, and then just kind of pass by them and hold it out for a tip. That usually gets more than a dollar, and when you skip the thirty second dances and go for a 3 second money collection, you have time to put on an actual show.

    If they're young and annoying, when they stick in a dollar I smile and say, "I know you can do better than that," and wait for the next dollar. That chases them away from my stage so I don't have to deal with their annoying asses, plus I got two dollars before they left.

    On another note tho... intead of trying to increase your stage money, why not use your stage time to set up back to back dances while you're off stage?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizette
    What I've learned:

    1. Hold out both sides of my thong for tips.
    2. Spend less time no matter what the other girls do.
    3. Be snotty if they have to dig in their wallets, make me wait, and then ask for change for a $5.
    4. Have clever comebacks.
    5. If they still do not tip after said clever comebacks, move on and don't sweat it.
    Very clever, alienate the customer for an extra dollar. Who cares how many lap dances you lose I wish more dancers were like you. My in-club expenditures would drop dramatically

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizette
    What I've learned:

    3. Be snotty if they have to dig in their wallets, make me wait, and then ask for change for a $5.
    I don't quite know if I'm a fan of that. While it is obnoxious to ask a stripper for change (what the Hell? Are my friends the only people who get a stack of ones beforehand?), being "snotty" certainly isn't going to persuade me to give her more money. Witty, yes; funny, yes; snotty, no.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BackseatBoohoo
    While it is obnoxious to ask a stripper for change (what the Hell? Are my friends the only people who get a stack of ones beforehand?), being "snotty" certainly isn't going to persuade me to give her more money.
    This hence leads to another reason which makes stage tips problematic. It isn't that we run out of money, but because we run out of the proper denominations! If this is a problem at $1 a girl, imagine what its going to be like when dancers insist on $2 and your stack of George's disapears twice as fast.

    I in fact, left my home club last trip when I ran out of singles despite the fact that I had over $300 on me. Usually when buying a drink, I'll have the waitress replenish my supply with the change, which really helps loosen the ol' wallet, but its a bit hard when the waitress isn't coming over because she's chatting with other customers. Clubs ought to know that many of us stopped by the ATM on the way in, and they don't spit out singles.

    And yes, I'll concur that thirty seconds for a single dollar is waaaay overgenerous. Stage tips ought to be received in exchange for a simple acknowledgement. A bubbly "Hi, how are you?" hold open the garter/thong, and a genuine "thank you!" will suffice for $1 and that can done in a mere 5-10 seconds. Any customer who doesn't think that's enough for such a meager sum is going to be a pain to invest any more time into anyways.

    This way people who tip mutiples or larger bills can still be given a better show and be shown the incentive of dropping bigger tips. The dancer also gets the ability to sort the gentlemen from the headcases.

    The central theme of this thread ought to be, if you wish for customers to up their spending, then make sure both you and your club are not doing things that would give them a disincentive to spend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish
    This hence leads to another reason which makes stage tips problematic. It isn't that we run out of money, but because we run out of the proper denominations!...... Clubs ought to know that many of us stopped by the ATM on the way in, and they don't spit out singles.
    Most girls at clubs are required to cash in their singles periodically throughout the night, so that guys can go to the bar anytime and get a stack of 1's in exchange for larger bills.
    This is a good point to bring up though, because a lot of guys just don't think of doing this. I see this several times a night, where I'll be talking to a custy and he reaches in his pocket/wallet to give the girl on stage a tip and ends up realizing he only has a bunch of 20's and then doesn't give start tipping until he buys a drink and gets change. I try to fix the problem by offering to exchange some of my singles for his larger bill so that the girl on stage gets something for her effort.
    I'm not abnormally nice, other girls at my club do this too! It helps grease the wheels and get them spending. I hear about too much of this competitive attitude in other clubs. If he tips the other girl, he is more likely to tip you as well, especially if you offered to help him out!

    And yes, I'll concur that thirty seconds for a single dollar is waaaay overgenerous. Stage tips ought to be received in exchange for a simple acknowledgement.
    Hooray for you!! Now if only every SC patron out there had this philosophy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lena
    If there are a lot of customers, some times it pays to put on a little show, get them all hooked and really really hoping you'll go over to them, and then just kind of pass by them and hold it out for a tip. That usually gets more than a dollar, and when you skip the thirty second dances and go for a 3 second money collection, you have time to put on an actual show.

    If they're young and annoying, when they stick in a dollar I smile and say, "I know you can do better than that," and wait for the next dollar. That chases them away from my stage so I don't have to deal with their annoying asses, plus I got two dollars before they left.

    On another note tho... intead of trying to increase your stage money, why not use your stage time to set up back to back dances while you're off stage?
    I set up dances right from the stage because with only 45 minutes in between sets, I have no choice.

    Older crowds really appreciate the show. It's not uncommon for them to approach my stage, tip $20-$60, and tell me to keep doing what I'm doing because they just want to watch. Even if they only tipped $1, I would feel honored that they truly enjoy a striptease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish
    And yes, I'll concur that thirty seconds for a single dollar is waaaay overgenerous. Stage tips ought to be received in exchange for a simple acknowledgement. A bubbly "Hi, how are you?" hold open the garter/thong, and a genuine "thank you!" will suffice for $1 and that can done in a mere 5-10 seconds. Any customer who doesn't think that's enough for such a meager sum is going to be a pain to invest any more time into anyways.
    This is very helpful. I didn't know that some customers felt this way. Praise the Lord!

    This way people who tip mutiples or larger bills can still be given a better show and be shown the incentive of dropping bigger tips. The dancer also gets the ability to sort the gentlemen from the headcases.

    The central theme of this thread ought to be, if you wish for customers to up their spending, then make sure both you and your club are not doing things that would give them a disincentive to spend.
    I spend over 40% of my time dealing with the stage. In between sets, I typically have back to back dances. By the time I step in front of the audience, I'm exhausted. I admit I use some of my stage time to rest. More often than not, I'll chat with the guys instead of busting a move.

    The club has a ready supply of singles. The only thing that it does really wrong is put dancers on stage too often. Most of us hate it because our bodies can't take it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave1112
    Very clever, alienate the customer for an extra dollar. Who cares how many lap dances you lose I wish more dancers were like you. My in-club expenditures would drop dramatically
    That's funny...I never alienated the customer for an extra dollar. In fact, if they were trying to give me a dollar, I'd ignore them...I'd only go to the guys that would have more money. In fact, there were several occasions that some asshat would approach the stage waving a $5 or $10 bill around. He'd put it in my garter and ask if I had change, to which I would reply, "Yes, as a matter of fact, I do." and then walk away. Most of the time, they would just suck it up...some of the times, if they came up to me, I would just say, "Oh, you didn't expect me to make change in the middle of my set while I could have been making more money, now did you?" That always got me more dances and it plainly told them what a stupid asshat they acted like (in nicer words).

    It's not about alienating anybody...it's about not wasting your time with the stupid moron who takes up the best stage side seats and wants you to "work" for his sweaty, nasty dollar. Fuck that. If that's how you are, then I would have been more than happy to not do any laps for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusGoddess
    That's funny...I never alienated the customer for an extra dollar. In fact, if they were trying to give me a dollar, I'd ignore them...I'd only go to the guys that would have more money. In fact, there were several occasions that some asshat would approach the stage waving a $5 or $10 bill around. He'd put it in my garter and ask if I had change, to which I would reply, "Yes, as a matter of fact, I do." and then walk away. Most of the time, they would just suck it up...some of the times, if they came up to me, I would just say, "Oh, you didn't expect me to make change in the middle of my set while I could have been making more money, now did you?" That always got me more dances and it plainly told them what a stupid asshat they acted like (in nicer words).

    It's not about alienating anybody...it's about not wasting your time with the stupid moron who takes up the best stage side seats and wants you to "work" for his sweaty, nasty dollar. Fuck that. If that's how you are, then I would have been more than happy to not do any laps for you.
    Well I don't sit at the stage. I use tipping at the stage to get a dancer to come over for private dances. I use the stage to "audition" dancers. Part of that is their looks, part is are they having fun on stage. And part is just watching how the dancer acts on stage. Giving a guy grief because he asks for change from a ten would cross you off my list right away.

    I just don't understand why you would belittle a customer who is tipping you? So the guy can't afford to tip 10 bucks on stage. Is that a reason to insult the guy? You are in a customer service business, and not only does that alienate the guy who was trying to tip you, but also those in the audience who may be watching.

    Nothing turns me off faster than a dancer who so blatantly treats customers as an ATM.

    The reason a lot of guys are there is for the fantasy. They like to think you are there having fun. Not that it is a 9 to 5 job for you. All of these money-grubbing behaviors (for a lousy buck, I might add), just make a dancer look like all she is in it for is the money. I know you are in it in for the money on an intellectual level, but at an emotional level, I'd like to pretend you aren't, and I think it is part of a dancer's job to help that fantasy thrive.

    To me, once you've reached that point, it's time to take a break from dancing, because you've lost your hustle, and are hurting your income. Customers pick up on the negative vibes quicker than you might think.

    At any rate, I agree I don't think we would hook up in the club for dances--we aren't a good match for each other.

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    If they can't "afford" $10 then how are they going to buy a dance later?

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    I think what Dave is saying (and I agree with) is that it's tacky to ask for another dollar. While it's obvious that the girls are there to make money, the second you ask for a bigger tip, you ruined the fantasy for him.

    if one dollar is not sufficient, but two or three dollars is, you basically show you're working for single dollars. This is the type of behavior that girls who don't sell a lot of private dances have....in other words, a low-earning, desperate dancer.

    You will probably get the additional dollar, but you will probably hurt yourself in the long run with the guy that is attracted to the classy dancer.

    It's not necessarily that he can't afford more. it's that he's turned off by it, just the same way you'd probably be if your waitress came back to your table and asked you for a bigger tip.

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    chrissakes, it's hardly rude of the girls to point out the customer's rudeness in expecting a dancer on stage to be a change drawer. i mean, wtf. a lot of customers generally point and laugh, so to speak, at the guy who expects change for his money, so it's obviously not costing any dancer onstage sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadisonM
    Like I said before, if they tip in the side of your t-bar, jokingly ask them to even it out and tip the other side also.
    That certainly worked on me! Years ago, when I was rather new to visiting the clubs a dancer pulled that one. She was sweet, and said it a way that made me chuckle a bit. Ever since then, I've generally tipped from $2 to $5. Occasionally I'll still give a single for an extremely sub-par performance, rudeness, etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave1112
    Well I don't sit at the stage. I use tipping at the stage to get a dancer to come over for private dances. I use the stage to "audition" dancers. Part of that is their looks, part is are they having fun on stage. And part is just watching how the dancer acts on stage. Giving a guy grief because he asks for change from a ten would cross you off my list right away.
    If a dancer's advertising time is on the stage, why should she take that time to make change for some guy who could have easily gone to the bar and gotten the proper change? I never had my money just "sitting" in my garter. It was always folded and rubberbanded (twice) to ensure it just didn't "disappear". I've never given a guy grief on the stage...but I have "passed" over the ones slipping a $1 my way in favor of going for the guy(s) that are waving around $5-10. Was I rude about it? No, I just danced my way past...making them think that I overlooked the $1. When I was done with my stage set, I would go back and pick up the ones and thank the guys that left it. I would not spend time giving them the $20 for $1...and I usually ended up only doing a couple of dances for the $1 guys while I sat and made money with the higher tipping guys. So, really, who would you go for? Of course, you will go for the dancer who will spend all of her time at your table not charging you because you don't want to part with you money. I was never one of those girls. If you didn't buy a dance within 3 songs, I politely excused myself and moved on. Time is money. You may be there to have fun, but the dancers are there to make money. The one biggest problem happening is that the "new" girls are becoming less "salespeople" and more "hopeful beggars".

    So, to clarify...any guy that comes to the stage for change deserves to wait for the dancer to get off the stage. Any guy who is expecting to get the dancer's undivided attention (albeit on the stage) for $1 cannot get mad when she moves to another guy who's passing out more money. Dancers shouldn't be rude, but customers need to learn time and place. What is so hard about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave1112
    Giving a guy grief because he asks for change from a ten would cross you off my list right away.
    Quote Originally Posted by miabella
    chrissakes, it's hardly rude of the girls to point out the customer's rudeness in expecting a dancer on stage to be a change drawer.
    I agree it is not neccesary for dancers to make change, esspecially while on stage. This is where the staff should be assisting the dancers. Change for all transactions for door cover and drinks should include a fistful of singles. Waitresses should ask customers that they see tipping if they'd like more ones just like they'd ask if we needed another drink. DJ's should help point those customers in that direction.

    Just the same, I don't think a customer who would like to show his appreciation by tipping should have to jump through hoops and go to the bar to get change just so he can help dancers make money. He came to sit back and relax after all. If a dancer has a big fistful of ones after her set, wants to change them for bigger bills, and is going to change them in at the bar anyways, I don't see what is wrong with her cutting out the middle man and making change herself. In my mind, both parties win. I would even tip the dancer a couple of bucks (say 18 ones for a $20 bill) for her efforts, just like I would the waitress.
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    Thanks VenusGoddess!

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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish
    I agree it is not neccesary for dancers to make change, esspecially while on stage. If a dancer has a big fistful of ones after her set, wants to change them for bigger bills, and is going to change them in at the bar anyways, I don't see what is wrong with her cutting out the middle man and making change herself. In my mind, both parties win. I would even tip the dancer a couple of bucks (say 18 ones for a $20 bill) for her efforts, just like I would the waitress.
    I will never make change for a guy while I'm on stage, but I often do it while I'm on my tip walk. If a guy only has a 10 or 20, I'll give him my singles in exchange for his bigger bill, and he usually only makes me give him 17 or 18 for a 20 to thank me for making change for him. I turn in my ones to the bartender after every set anyway, so I might as well just make change for a customer while I'm walking around, but never when I'm on stage. It takes too long for me to count out my singles to exchange with him.

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    Just as a side note...I think it is really tacky to ask for fucking change...I mean really. If you come to my stage waving a 20 and i ignore some guy who has a 1 for you(when you have the same 1...its like that bait and switch bullshit some guys pull)...im gonna be pissed...
    Its rude and it makes you look cheap...which is obviously counter-productive if you went up there to have the girl come back for dances...I don't think many girls just run with joy to a guy that came across as cheap....
    oh and btw i know its asking way to much for you to get ones from the bar or the waitress but you are also not the one busting your sweaty, tired ass on stage. I'm dancing, i'm naked, I'm working my butt off and you want change while I'm doing it...Sorry but fuck you. I appreciate the $1 and will be sweet and say thank you for tipping me but dont ask me for change as if my asscrack was an atm
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    Do you get girls in your club?? I've never danced before... but here is my experience from going to clubs. Whenever my boyfriend and I go to a club we have to sit at the tip rail... otherwise it's boring for me. We ussually tip $2 for the set, because I guess you're suppose to tip $1 per song. But if the girl does really good on the pole, she'll get another dollar.

    But what I've seen as a HUGE money maker.... when the stripper comes and interacts with me. Not only will I give her a few more bills but so will the other guys. Come on every guy loves girl on girl action. I once had a stripper ask me if it was okay if she pulled my top up... I let her.. it was up and he interacted with me for like a good minute.... she made a ton of money. If you're lucky enough to get girls in the club at the rail... definetly pay attention to them!!! (Sometimes when they come with the boyfriend they are in control of the money lol)

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    ...im response to the original post...depending on the guy whocomes up to the stage and only tips $1...i'll swing my hip to the other side and say something (i know this is a bit silly, but if you do it in a silly cute way it works) like

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    opps my son was sitting in my lap and jacked up my message lol...anyways....i just swing to the other side, pull out the sied of my bottoms and tell them this side is jealous, they just usually laugh and tip another dollar....just an idea!

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