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    Default Dr. Natura colon cleanse

    okay, I could've sworn that people discussed this on here before, but I can't find it anywhere. Has anyone ever used this Dr. Natura system? If yes, did you notice any difference in your body or the way you felt? And if so, how long did you use it for?

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    i'm an herbalist, hon, and let me give you the straight dope- colon cleansing is a scam. if you're eating a good diet, you don't need it. if you're not eating a good diet, it'll just make things worse. colon cleansers are just powerful laxatives. laxatives are unneccessary if you are not constipated, and overuse can cause dehydration, anemia, and various and sundry problems associated with malnutrition and depletion of beneficial intestinal bacteria. if you're worried about toxins in your body, drink more water, eat better quality foods, and cut back your use of chemicals in your life. if you don't do those things, sitting on a toilet for extra time is not in any possible way going to be helpful.
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    ^ You're a little mistaken here. For the majority of Americans, they do not have NEARLY enough fiber in their diet. If you are one of those people, then this would be good for you to do. It's not a "colon cleanse" per say, but you drink fiber supplements 2x's a day. It helps get your digestive system going. If you are going from a crappy diet (and being constipated) to a healthier diet and just want to "jump start" it, then you can do this or you can go buy Metamucil. Whatever you want to do. Make sure that you up your intake of veggies and fruits and other fiber rich foods (bread does not count).

    I did the Dr. Natura cleanse and I had good results with it. If you want to do it to help jump-start a healthier way of eating and cleansing out the "crap" stuck in the colon and making you constipated...then it's good. If it's to lose weight, etc then no, it won't work that much. You do lose a little...but it's not that much.

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    it's far better for you to just eat high fiber foods, venus. why pay $20 for what's essentially a $3 glass of prune juice, anyway? it's all something that's been invented purely for the purpose of making money at the expense of people who are honestly trying to be healthy. what concerns me especially is that many "colon cleansing" systems require you to take laxatives for a much longer period of time that would be reccomended by any good doctor. and why would you need to "jump start" a healthy diet? if you're constipated, take a single dose of milk of magnesia, or the prune juice if you can stand the taste. you should be fine after that. if you're not constipated, save your money for something worth having, like chocolate or vibrators or a pedicure!

    as for the terrible diet of most americans, you are unfortunately very right. however, if someone is living off of big macs, colon cleansing will not help them- it'll just give them diarrhea for no good reason. they'll still be overweight, fatigued, and malnourished- they'll now just add dehydration to their list of problems.
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    I've never taken it but my mom used to bake these really high fiber muffins. One day I ate a whole bunch of them and not only did I go to the bathroom but I got a bad case of the shits. I've been scared of eating that much fiber at one time again. I do get my fiber and don't usually have a problem with pooping so I'm not too worried about it though.

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    I have IBS (chronic consipation) so I saw a gastrointerologist, and he told me that there's nothing wrong with being on certain laxatives for an extended period of time... note the *certain* part. He prescribed me Miralax, which works for me to a degree (he said I could use it for the rest of my life if I needed to, without any adverse effects) but I'm looking to basically clean out my entire system. I'm tired of not having regular bowel movements, and having my entire abdomen look and feel bloated & disgusting. What's weird about it is that I eat really well- all organic health food, nothing bad. The irony is that I used to eat horribly- processed junk food, fast food, etc.- and I didn't have this problem.
    I think that I'm going to try it since VenusGoddess said she had good results... I Googled it today & found some bulletin board for brides & they had a thread on it (all recommendations.) Thank you for the input
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    Myy aunt uses the stuff, and swears by it. Her abdomin was so extended she looked like she was 9 mo's pregnant(she is 50 and had 5 kids, but this was her stomache only, not legs). Since shes used it her stomache is going down for the first time in 12 years.
    She also takes papaya enzyme tablets for digestion.
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    rachelle, do you have any naturopathic physicians or certified practicing herbalists in your area? i suggest you see one of those. they'll be able to tell you if that particular brand is reliable, and safe for regular use, and if not, reccomend a different brand. i agree, IBS with chronic constipation is a different problem entirely, requiring more complicated and holistic treatment. if you can't find a naturopath, try a registered dietician.
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    but how could one naturally get out the old fecal matter and funky looking parasites (hopefully bad ones, not good ones) like the dr. natura site says?

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    there is a very strong probability that you do not have any intestinal parasites at all fancygirl, unless you've been visiting other countries and drinking their water, or drinking unproccessed lake water. there are many bacteria that live in our digestive systems, but they are not parasitic- rather, we live in symbiosis with these creatures, and without them, would slowly starve as we would be unable to digest our food. intestinal parasites are things like giardia and hookworms, and do not occur in the majority of our population, thanks to the one good thing the governement seems to be doing with our tax money- proccessing our water and sewage seperately to ensure us clean drinking water. if you have reason to believe you have intestinal parasites (symptoms include fever, abdominal pain, severe cramping, diarrhea, etc.) please go see a qualified physician. as for old fecal matter, unless you are constipated, it expels itself naturally. if you are worried about digestive health, eat more whole grains, fruits and vegetables, drink plenty of water, and try adding ginger to your diet.
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    People who are constipated and people with IBS (I'm one of them) have issues because the motility of thier intestines is wonky. Your intestines work by moving things along with a natural kind of "wave" motion. When that isn't smooth things aren't moved as efficiently and spend too much time in the lower intestine where water is removed to the point that fecal matter becomes dry and hard.

    Your best bet is to increase your water and fiber intake (increase fiber a bit at a time so you don't end up soending the day in the bathroom). Things like natural licorice and peppermint are excellent digestion aids and can be real helpful.

    The whole colon cleanse thing really is a load of crap (no pun intended). The websites always have THE most repulsive pictures but who can say they're authentic? They pray on people's fears by using the whole intestinal parasite thing too which is ridiculous. One of the most common intestinal parasites is Giardia lamblia and it's microscopic. Pinworms are common in kids but other than that intestinal worms are uncommon in developed countries (you get them by comming in contact with infected fecal material) and if you happen to get one and want to get rid of it you have to take medication that paralyzes it's mouth so it drops off and can be expelled...

    Look at medical sites (the CDC etc) instead of the sites that are promoting thier products.



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    I agree it is a scam ! Only the people that have been constipated all their lives would maybe need a colon cleansing. But if you eat right alot of fibers(veggies,whole grain, fruits ... ) you don't need it.

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    many people don't know this, but up to 60% of americans have a parasite in ther Gastro-Intestinal system. you have to clean the inside of your body just like you clean the outside.

    Don't get hooked, though, because as Venus said, you can get dehydrated, bloated, anemia, etc.

    Just go on a detox diet for like 2-3 days - drink juice or whatever..

    there are really disgusting parasites that can take residence inside your colon and large and small intestine, and you'd never know it

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    Quote Originally Posted by fancygirl
    but how could one naturally get out the old fecal matter and funky looking parasites (hopefully bad ones, not good ones) like the dr. natura site says?
    For parasites try a herbal formular. Dr Hulda Clarks parasite cleanse is great - tastes awful though! (She's a herbalist.) I did it before a liver flush as recomended, scarey but brilliant! Bowel cleanse info there too.

    Proffesional oppions are divided about parasites - some say that almost everyone regardless of lifestyle and location has them. Others say most people need not worry and then there are the ones who say we don't have enough parasites and should go out of out way to get them...

    * * *

    curezone.com has forums for a whole bunch of cleanses and natural / alternative ways to improve your health etc. Taking a laxitive is not a good long term option for anyone btw!
    Underlying problems may need to be addressed too if there are on-going problems. That's often the case when people do eat healthy organic food etc but still don't have things working quite as they ought. - Unadressed problems can continue from earlier habits and / or situations. (Allergies, food intollerance, use of medications, injuries, nutritional deficiencies (which so many people have purely because of modern living!) stress, pollution and so on...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meea
    many people don't know this, but up to 60% of americans have a parasite in ther Gastro-Intestinal system. you have to clean the inside of your body just like you clean the outside.
    Can I ask where that statistic comes from?



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    In a couple of weeks i'm about to undertake a 7 day detox and colon cleansing program in Thailand. This is involves fasting and 2 daily colonic irrigation procedures. Plus hebs and physillium shakes.
    I eat organically most of the time but i'm a smoker, a drinker and i've taken more than my fair share of all kinds of different recreational drugs in the past. These things have taken their toll on my body and i decided it was time for a total cleanout. Oh, and i'm quitting smoking.
    I don't think colon cleansing is a scam. Yes a proper diet is nessesary, but colon cleansing along with fasting helps the healing process along alot faster and does a more thorough job than simply changing your diet.

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    Some people estimate higher or lower than 60%.

    I have found a few 60% referances but I can't find the source. Someone at curezone will probably know though if you really wanted to know (-:



    - Heaps of info here.

    An article in June 27, 1978, Miami Herald states that a nationwide survey conducted by the Centers for Disease Control in 1976 revealed that one in every six people selected at random had one or more parasites.

    Louis Parrish, M.D. a New York City physician who specializes in parasites, wrote in 1991, "based upon my experience, I estimate in the New York metropolitan area that 25 % percent of the population is infected . . . . . . . . Projections for the year 2025 suggest that more than half of the 8.3 billion people on Earth will then be infected with parasitic diseases."

    "We have a tremendous parasite problem right here in the United States - it’s just not being identified." - Peter Weiner, Ph.D., Chief of Pathobiology, Walter Reed Army Institute of Research, 1991.

    "I strongly believe that every patient with disorders of immune function, including multiple allergies (especially food allergy), and patients with unexplained fatigue or with chronic bowel symptoms should be evaluated for the presence of intestinal parasites." - Leo Galland, M.D. Townsend Letter for Doctors, 1988.

    "Make no mistake about it, worms are the most toxic agents in the human body. They are one of the primary underlying causes of disease and are the most basic cause of a compromised immune system." - Hazel Parcells, D.C., N.D., Ph.D., 1974.

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    aussie, does it anywhere in that report specify that the figure refers to intestinal parasites, as apposed to general parasites? i noticed it was truncated.
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    I'm sorry if i'm comming off as just argumentative for the sake of arguing...

    I was raised by hippie parents and have always been a strong believer in herbal remedies etc. My issue isn't with that, it's with a lot of the misconceptions surrounding "detoxing" your body. The whole parasite thing tends to be overblown. The parasites the colon cleanse places always show are big ass tape worms and stuff. Those are not common in developed countries and to infer they are is just misleading. However, pinworms (nematode / roundworm) are hugely common amoung children but have been shown to not affect health in any way and the infections tend to be self limiting and clear up after time without any treatment.

    There was an interesting article in the Washington Times not long ago:

    One dietitian says the industry popularly known as "detoxification" is, in fact, a "marketing myth" designed to fleece gullible health fanatics out of millions of dollars spent on an array of tablets, teas, herbal remedies and other potions to try to remedy the effects of going over the top during the holidays.

    I don't know... I mean how many people buy the stuff and use it and have no idea what's even in it?

    I honestly feel that if someone want's to clean all the crap out of thier system increasing your water intake, eating healthier and cutting out shit like smoking/recreational drugs, not taking medication unless it's needed (people pop Tylenol like candy and that shit is bad news for your liver), etc, is a far more valid approach.

    *shrug*

    Everyone's allowed an opinion. I'm not saying mine is 100% correct or anyone else's is 100% wrong, just to think before doing things. A lot of the detox stuff (colonics etc) are unnecessary and in many cases harmful...



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    i agree with you completely sirona.... that was exactly my point.
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    oh my god I just looked at those pictures and I don't know why I looked. That is so fucking nasty! I feel like I am going to vomit. I can't imagine I could have that much garbage inside of me. There wouldn't be room for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by venusofwillendorf
    aussie, does it anywhere in that report specify that the figure refers to intestinal parasites, as apposed to general parasites? i noticed it was truncated.
    Oh god don't send me back to curezone to look, I can never get out of their quickly, lol!

    Will this do instead?



    >>More and more people are concerned these days about the presence of intestinal parasites and worms in the body. And in fact, according to numerous studies, nearly 85% Americans have parasites in their body's. According to the World Health Organization (WHO) intestinal parasitic helminthes and protozoan infections are among the most common infections world-wide.<<

    Snip.

    I read a whole bunch of stuff a few years ago about testing for parasites, but can't think where - Dr Hulda Clark I'm sure did alot of studies, I'm not sure that Adelle Davies in her books doesnt mention something too. Damned memory - it may come back to me later!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MishaBliss
    In a couple of weeks i'm about to undertake a 7 day detox and colon cleansing program in Thailand.
    OOh where are you going in Thailand? Want some good places to buy dance clothes/shoes in Bangkok?
    Just email me at [email protected] and Ill send you the links of their websites - you can order and pick up when you are there.

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