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    Couldn't help it. Something interesting happened this weekend. Myself and two friends went to Yosemite National Park. My friend L. bought a disposable 35MM camera at the Yosemite Park gift shop since his digital camera wasn't working.
    After lunch at the Ahwanee Hotel (hot dogs & turkey wraps, on a budget LOL) we went for a walk in the Park near the Happy Isles Bridge. We found a large old redwood tree that had its heart burned out in a forest fire, but the tree survived, and so there is a inverted V-shaped hollow in the middle, big enough for a person to stand in.
    L. snapped a picture of the tree before I had a chance to say, "Hey, why don't you let one of us pose in the hollow?" I thought a picture of the tree by itself was "wasteful" when we could have gotten 3 shots of all of us in the hollow. BUT I kept my mouth shut, as it was his camera & his decision of what to shoot.
    So HERE'S the odd thing. The next day, we got the pictures developed in triplicate so everyone could have one set. The picture he took of the aforementioned tree by itself had a little light orb in the hollow. Some people think these little lights captured on film are "spirit lights" & are the energy of an entity trying to show itself. OR it could be a flaw on the film, or a stain from the photo processing, right...? Well, there are only a couple frames of film with these orbs......& none of the prints look incongruous, which means the flaw occured during exposure, not processing. There was no bad weather that day, and the camera was a plastic cheapie from the gift shop. I was present during the taking of all the photos & there were no visible abnormal atmospheric events.
    The other "orb" frame is 2 lights inside the underside of a bridge, but I was more struck by the tree photo because I have my own ideas about what that light is. Or, who it is...if it's supposed to be a formerly earthbound spirit.
    OK you all have permission to think I'm nuts, but since I already posted mightly on 2 previous "ghost" thread in the Lounge, I figured this post wouldn't change anyone's opinion.

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    Well, you know that I don't think you're nuts. I'll PM you my latest incident. Pretty interesting and horrifying all at the same time.

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    OH, I have to add this- L. was saying there is a notoriously haunted house on property owned by his family....and if they can't rid the place of this problem haunting, they will seriously BURN the place down because no one wants to live in there....so the place is falling down & taking up space. UH, however, L is also very skeptical, and so when I piped up about the "light orbs" in the photos, he kinda pooh-poohed me. So I was like, "Uh, okay, forget about it, let's go finish running errands..." (We looked at the photos as soon as they came out of One Hour Photo at Walgreen's Drugstore [CVS to you East Coasters].)

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    ^ LOL Well, I have had some scary things happen to me before regarding
    "paranormal" things...but lately, the events have been very positive, so I am enjoying it as signs of reassurance.....

    PS About the haunted house on L.'s family property....Yeah, L. didn't even think much of the "spooky tales" until one of his most trusted relatives had a negative experience in the house. Now he wants to video-record the place to see if anything happens. We were talking over dinner about who the ghost could be and we think he pegged it...which means the house needs to be razed......

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    I actually love those sort of stories .... wish they would happen to me sometimes

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    ^ i concur

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    They might start happening if you go through a major upheaval, or you change suddenly...it only started for me after I fell in love for the first time. I mean, real, make-you-sick, soul- striking love....(It didn't work out but I guess that's for the best...)
    Oh, L. lives near the site of the "Bell Witch" haunted house, in Tennessee...we discussed that case on the way up to Yosemite, & I brought up how most stories need corroboration. For example, the Coronado Hotel ghost near San Diego is easily corroborated because it occured in a public place, involved a murder that went on record, and different people have reported seeing the spirit of the woman who was killed. The Bell House Ghost is an older story & has different documentation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmaxine
    OH, I have to add this- L. was saying there is a notoriously haunted house on property owned by his family....and if they can't rid the place of this problem haunting, they will seriously BURN the place down because no one wants to live in there....so the place is falling down & taking up space. UH, however, L is also very skeptical, and so when I piped up about the "light orbs" in the photos, he kinda pooh-poohed me. So I was like, "Uh, okay, forget about it, let's go finish running errands..." (We looked at the photos as soon as they came out of One Hour Photo at Walgreen's Drugstore [CVS to you East Coasters].)
    Does L wanna get rid of said house cheap? I might be interested in the fixer upper, haunted or not

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    OoooOh.. Never wish for it! Wonce you notice the paranormal, you never quit noticing it. It can be a real pain in the ass, and you get many people who look at you like your a freak of nature for thinking about paranormal things(it's just cuz their pussys, but still, it's annoying).
    I mean, look at sylvia brown, did you know she won't even sleep with the lights off? She has a night light, and I completely understand her point of view!
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    Well this is going to be my year I think ... big plans in place ... so hopefully , fingers crossed , something paranormal too ...lol

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    ^^ I think it's like learning to spell, and knowing you can't quite do it^^ sorry for the torture!
    Susie

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    Are you willing to move to Tennessee Blade? Gotta warn you, they had a Christian revivial called "Passions" & many thousands of people showed up in a one week span...my kid brother lives near Nashville & his pet hobby is annoying Southern Baptists....(he's anti-church.) You two could join forces!!!!

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    People already look at me like I'm freaky

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    Hate to say it, MM, but for the most part "orbs" in pictures are light anomalies, or dust motes etc. I deal with such pictures fairly often in my administration of a website and forum I help with. Ive read and seen a number of explainations of "orbs", - I'l post one of the more comprehensive ones here -

    "Put very briefly, anything brighter than the orb will expose the
    film/sensor over top of it, the same principle as a multiple-exposure.
    Photography measures light, and this can be cumulative.


    When lenses produce an image on film (and for convenience we'll stick
    with that term even though it's identical for digital sensors), what
    they're doing is taking diffuse light rays and focusing them down to a
    point directly on the film surface. This is best illustrated with a
    cone, where the point of the cone, in a tightly focused image, falls
    precisely on the film plane. In an out-of-focus image, the film plane
    intersects the cone somewhere ahead or behind the point (and light rays
    won't stop at the 'point', which is the location of tightest
    convergence, but will keep going and diverge again, essentially two
    cones point-to-point). So instead of a sharp image, you get a softer
    image spread out across more of the film plane - cutting the top off of
    the cone, as it were.


    With the typical orb, you have a very small object, very close to the
    flash, that's way out of focus. So while the proximity to the flash
    should make it very bright, it still reflects a limited amount of light
    because it's small (little surface area to reflect), and then because
    it's way out of focus, this limited amount of light gets spread thinly
    across the film. Think of it as a drop of paint: Apply it to a wall as
    a tight drop and it covers and obscures whatever is underneath, but try
    to paint the entire wall with one drop and all you can do is stain it
    slightly, letting the hideous wallpaper pattern show through ;-). This
    produces the 'ghostly' appearance of the orb, where background objects
    are still discernable.


    Since film responds to light, a brighter background image will
    overpower the orb and may well appear to be in front of it. You'd get
    the same effect as that drop of paint above being spread over a large
    wallpaper pattern, especially if they're the same color - while the
    pattern gets stained too, you probably wouldn't be able to discern the
    slight change in color over portions of the pattern not touched by the
    paint stain.


    Chances are, putting the image in a good photo editing program and
    blowing the contrast off the scale will reveal that the orb really *is*
    in front of the 'foreground' image, just indiscernable to casual
    observation (this is a great trick for turning up other things as
    well).


    Additionally, jpeg compression is intended to make the image file
    smaller, and it does this by discarding subtle variations - the more
    compression, the fewer subtleties remain. An over-compressed image may
    have destroyed the finer details that would have made it evident that
    the orb was in front of other objects within the frame.


    Again, it's better to see the images in question, but I suspect this
    will account for most of the 'blocked orb' photos."

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    ^ Perfectly possible. I have no issues with the photo images being flukes, as described above. But, a byproduct of all 3 of us being together during the weekend resulted in some interesting storytelling, metaphysics being one part of the conversations. We were discussing the principle of "everything happens for a reason" and how I hate to say that because some events are perfectly awful & regrettable & it seems that no good can come of them. But, on the other hand, Life is not ours to manipulate, and some of us rationalize life by constantly trying to see logic in many events.....
    It wouldn't surprise me if our time together was part of something bigger. The way we all met was pretty unique, down to exactly what we said & did to impress eachother so much, to where we are still friends today. That's why I am thinking the photo marks mean something....

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    Ya know I believe in more ghosts now b/c of you. Thanks for freakin me out. lol
    Maybe you have spirits (the good kind) following you around?
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    you can only survive by clinging onto trees
    that's your flaw
    put down some roots so you can stand on your own
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    Bahhh humbug to Prester John
    I reckon they really were spirits madmaxine

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    there's a series on the scifi channel called "Ghosthunters," where a team of plumbers by day, ghosthunters by night, investigate hauntings. they're based in RI, but travel all over the country now thanks to funding from their show. they go into places trying to debunk hauntings...in other words, try to see if there are any rational explanations for things. but they also look for evidence that can prove a haunting, and they've found some pretty crazy shit....in one of their last episodes last year they found a full human apparition and caught it on film. i'm gonna look for a link for that specific instance.....but all in all, they think orbs are dust, light, and camera stuff, like PJ said.

    here's a link to their main site...with forums and pics and all that.....i definately believe in the paranormal madmaxine, and am sure you had some very interesting and valid experiences

    http://www.the-atlantic-paranormal-society.com/

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    ^^^ I LOVE that show!

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    i love going on ghost tours. i made friends with a girl on a williamsburg ghost tour once, and since my sight isn't blocked, i could tell where she should take her pictures to get orbs..... the guide kept pointing out all the places where the orbs were before, and from following up with people, they got ok results. my friend got orbs in every single one of her pictures from snapping where i told her to! now, i don't understand technology or photographs, so i can't rightly say what the orbs are. i just told her where i saw spirits, or simply sensed presences. but they do seem to occur in the same area as the orbs.
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    Prester John explained the orbs so well there’s no need for me to repeat it.

    A couple of weeks ago I saw a show on the National Geographic channel called Naked Science. (No it wasn’t about the science of strip-clubs.) In the show a physic did a “reading” of an “allegedly” haunted house. Afterwards the show’s host did a background check into the house’s history. As it turns out the physic was wrong in almost every aspect.

    Remember our brains are hard-wired to detect patterns and believe there’s cause and effect in places or events where it doesn’t exist. This is how the Rorschach test works – the brain perceives a shape in a random inkblot. Perhaps it’s more comforting to believe that “everything happens for a reason” when there may not be a reason. Chaos and meaninglessness can be disconcerting. So we see ghosts or believe in destiny because it’s comforting.

    But I’m a skeptic.
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    It's that pesky ectoplasm getting in your camera. Next time wash your hands before you reload film.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    *Update*

    I was recently discussing the subject of unexplained images caught on film with a friend. We did discuss how dust motes are the most likely culprit in "spirit orb" photos. However, I have a photo (taken in the dressing room of a famous stripclub) with a bizarre peach-colored discoloration that is over me & the other dancer...it was not in the other pictures, and it was nothing from the girl who took the photo or a room light. I show it to people all the time, in part because it's funny to see two strippers under a light disturbance in a photo. Usually one sees strippers under chemical disturbance in photos.

    My friend also recounted a funny story about a man who had photo images from......(cue spooky pan flutes) a Native American burial ground. (Yeah, I know.) It was funny because we started cracking jokes about what the purported Indian spirits were doing in the film images, but I can't post the jokes or I'll get called on it. (Dang it. You know I loves the people from the Rez!)

    OK lastly, I still see "lights" but my current physical state makes me unsure whether they're legitimately eerie or I'm just spazzing out. We jokingly call them "Tinkerbell?" I talked to my dad & he said his mom treated interaction with spirits like it was a normal thing, so maybe it's genetic whether one can humor the possibility of "spirit energy." (My friend, her mom & brother all "ghostbust" together & have equal ability to "sense" that stuff.)

    I guess one just has to be around it....to see whether one can humor it.

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