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    I don't know how many of you take anti-depressants or SSRI's. I take Effexor XR which is a SSRI. When I drink alcohol along with it I feel as though I am on exstacy or something. I am extremely happy. I want to share my intermost feelings with people. I feel very connected to myself and everyone else around me. Everything inside me intensified. Now, because of this I don't make a habit of drinking. I drink maybe once weekly. But I love that "buzzed" feeling I get where I am happy and like everyone. Unfornuately, if I drink too much and come down I feel just the opposite.

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    I take effexor and celexa...i've been medicated all of my life...i've been on ritalin since I was 4. I do drink with my anti-depressants but not excessively...I have had a few terrible reactions while mixing alcohol and the drugs so I don't reccomend drinking like a fish
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    I used to take Prozac a few years ago. I got really drunk one night and became very depressed and manic and freaked out. After that I wouldn't have more than one drink while taking it. Each drug is different with each person.

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    anti-depressant + depressant = 0

    you'll be no better off than when you started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nautilus
    anti-depressant + depressant = 0

    you'll be no better off than when you started.

    I know what the outcome should be but it's not that way. I mean I feel really feely when I am drinking, physically and emotionally.

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    Default Re: alcohol and anti-depressants

    Uhh . . . no.

    Depressant drugs are a category of entities which depress general nervous system activity.

    If the type of nervous system activity depressed by these drugs were directly related to mood, then SSRIs would not be antidepressants. Instead they would prescribe amphetamines.

    Depressant drugs are widely prescribed for anxiety and mood disorders, all of which can coexist with clinical depression.

    Yes, I know the English language is inexact.

    "Clinical depression" is a different usage than "depressant". "Depressant" refers to the mechanical effect of alcohol, barbiturates, etc. on the central nervous system. It's tricky and easy to confuse because both of these things affect mindstate. But they are on totally different levels.

    "Tongue depressor" and "depress the elevator button" are other uses of the same word.

    But when a sign says "Depress the button please", they don't mean you should break up with it!

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    i'd be more concerned about the come-down. the effect during the fact is pretty understandable.

    "The combination of an SSRI and alcohol may increase the chance or severity of side effects such as drowsiness, slow reflexes, or clouded judgment. This can be dangerous when driving a car or operating other machinery.
    Also, alcohol may make you feel depressed. In this way, alcohol can interfere with the actions of your SSRI to treat depression. Try to avoid or limit your use of alcohol while taking an SSRI."

    Sources:
    Micromedex Healthcare Series. Micromedex Inc., 2001.
    Hansten, P.D, J.R. Horn. Drug Interactions Analysis and Management. Applied Therapeutics, 2001.

    So, if you're not having a come-down -- rock on!

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    The major worry I'd have is the come-down the next day.

    I know that my friends who take E are usually low-grade depressed and burnt out for anywhere from a day to a week after taking it. Since you're feeling all giddy and happy on SSRI + 1 drink, I'd be worried that you'd either be emotionally fragile or your drugs would have to work overtime the next day.

    I'm not sure what dose you're on, but my friend who was on a super-high dose got incredibly fucked up on just one drink and was not doing well at all the next day. I'm on 100 mgs of Zoloft a day (medium-low dose as Zoloft goes), but I have zero alcohol tolerance, so the combination hits me hard.
    (Reason number 253 I don't drink much: whiskey + Zoloft REALLY screws me up)

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    effexor 75mg, If I take it with one to two shots I am floating around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nautilus
    anti-depressant + depressant = 0

    you'll be no better off than when you started.
    Not quite.
    anti-depressant + depressant = manic depressive.
    It heightens each side of depressant and anti- and send you on a bad rollercoaster ride. No chemicals can be perfectly matched in absorption to offset in timing and impact and the author is correct that if they were they would net to near zero. It really messes up the insides of your brain. like flipping a light switch on and off 10,000 times. Sooner or later the switch goes bad, or the bulb goes bad--neither is good. Now if you want to drool in your cereal 5 years from now, mixing drugs is a way to get there.

    Every stimulatant or depressant has a rebound (where the opposite happens a bit). DO not do this!

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    I have kicked or I am at least trying to kick alcohol all together and I must admit I feel a lot better I wasnt a daily drinker mostly weekends but I would power drink or rather drink a weeks worth of alcohol in a day ! Not good, I have anxiety issues and may be bi-polar ( will see the Doc in a couple of weeks ) as I have noticed I have episodes of depression and other symptoms of bp . I have been taking a xanax or two during the week ( I have an RX ) and this gets me through the day . Dont mix these two drugs - alcohol or any RX for that matter they kind of spell it out for you on the side of the bottle . Be careful okay we want you around for a while .

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    I'm on what's it called....celexa I think. When I drink I tend to get drunk VERY easy. Like one beer. I also get really happy like you were describing, and usually towards the end of the night I start getting really affectionate and want to cuddle with everyone. I guess it's good - I used to be a very mean drunk.

    Now that I think about it, since I've been on the meds I get affectionate and want to cuddle everyone in general.

    I started my meds 2 weeks before my 21 bday, so my dr gave me a little chat about how I shouldn't drink, and if i do to drink very very moderatly. He also said that it's more because each person reacts to the alcohol differently and he didn't know how I'd react and didn't want me to do anything. He said if I am drinking to alert someone I trust that I'm on the meds and ask them to tell me if I start doing strange things.

    Oh yeah - the other thing, I've never had a problem remembering drunken nights, but while on the meds it's really hard. My sense of the order in which things happen is completly gone, and if I have a wild night, and have say, a couple of mixed drinks then I will have to be carried home and told what I did the following day. I don't do well with liqour and meds, but beer tends to make me trip in a good way.


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    [QUOTE=Jillian] and usually towards the end of the night I start getting really affectionate and want to cuddle with everyone. I guess it's good - I used to be a very mean drunk.


    YA when your a guy and this happens you get thrown outta the bar ! lol -
    Just from my own experience you will become a mean drunk in time I have never seen a nice drunk last for long .

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    Quote Originally Posted by montythegeek
    Not quite.
    anti-depressant + depressant = manic depressive.
    It heightens each side of depressant and anti- and send you on a bad rollercoaster ride. No chemicals can be perfectly matched in absorption to offset in timing and impact and the author is correct that if they were they would net to near zero. It really messes up the insides of your brain. like flipping a light switch on and off 10,000 times. Sooner or later the switch goes bad, or the bulb goes bad--neither is good. Now if you want to drool in your cereal 5 years from now, mixing drugs is a way to get there.

    Every stimulatant or depressant has a rebound (where the opposite happens a bit). DO not do this!
    I highly agree! Bad news. Very bad.

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    i think you get my point though.

    i was simplifying it - not to be taken as a literal scientific equation...

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