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    So I started my first day of Argument/ Debate class. As an opening exercise, we were asked to right an "I believe" statement that could be argued from more than one side. My statement was "I believe prostitution should be legalized." The teacher read all of the statements to the class... other student statement examples were i believe in abortion rights and i believe death penalty is wrong. When my statement was read, everyone started to laugh including the teacher. Roaring laughter.The teacher made a funny comment saying " this belief can go along with the last one" because the last statement was "i beleive life should always be fun." His comment was funny and i did not really care about the laughing. Anyway, after these anonomous statements were read, we had to write them all down and guess who had which beliefs. I heard a few comments on my belief, while we were in groups trying to guess eachother's(before i revealed it was my statement.)No comments that were too offending... but comments that made me wonder why this issue is not taken as serious. I heard people joking/laughing in their groups, asking who has this statement, and then when i went up to them and said it was my statement they got all serious. I just wonder why sexual issues are still laughed upon at times? Sexual topics should be more comfortable for people by 2006. This also is not my first laughing experiance. In a public speaking class, we had to throw out speech topics. When i mentioned my topic of the exotic dance industry,,,, again i experianced ROARING laughter. I did not have the courage to go along with my topic back then, but that was two years ago. I would do it now in a heartbeat because i am much more comfortable in my beliefs/interests. Being in the dance industy, i still have an open mind and respect for those who choose to prostitute in the correct establisments for that purpous. I also have a sensitive spot for troubled streetwalkers(I must have watched too many horrible "COPS" shows where they act all high and mighty while they cuff up a troubled prostitute." Regardless, i respect the fact that some do not agree with the legalization... which is why i considered my statement to be very valid. While it still is valid... i just do not see why the issue needed to be laughed at. I was not offended, just sort of surprised at this class. I had a law/disorder in Literature class last year where this type of topic would not have been laughed at(atleast not by the teacher.) Anyway... just a rant. Other classroom laugh experiances? I hope i get to debate my topic. Maybe I can stop the little kid "i am in 5th grade and just touched my first boobie" type of laughter. Sex work needs to be taken more seriously.

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    People act this way to save face Silky.

    The basis here is maturity. Anyone who is willing to out right laugh at someone else's serious point of view in a classroom setting either lacks, or chooses, to not have the ability to understand your point of view.

    I had to speak to a forum of young medical student potentials (NYLF) on a topic. I picked abortion, and everytime I meantioned sex, it was like my whole commentary got derailed.

    Whatever you do, don't give up, they may laugh, but a LOT of them will most likely approach you in private with serious inquiries, here you will have a chance to make a difference. If they group off and shun you, be proud, you just shook their foundation with something you're more than capable of having, and they'll probably experience 6 years of man-on-top-get-it-over-with-quick sex which some of us have grown acustomed to.

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    I won't get into why I disagree that prostitute should not be legalised and instead be decriminalised. This is huge mistake alot of people make as there is a difference between making something legal and decriminalising something.

    Regardless, everyone isn't comfortable with sex in this day an age even tho' it is so "in your face". There is still embarressment. Granted, you won't really find those above the age of 25 or even 30 laughing about it due to maturity. It's really the "young dumb full of cum" people that still laugh about it as it is something new to them and they really havn't got the maturity just yet to not laugh in re: sex.

    Then again, it could be 'herd' mentality at the same time. Alot of people suffer from that as they want to 'fit in'. hmmm..


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    Yes I would think people got incomfortable with that belief and that's why they acted that way. But I would never have seen that in my classes I don't know if here we have a different mentality but I'm pretty much sure people would have taken that seriously and wouldn't care about that.

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    Yeah. I'm taking a class about sex in society this semester. So far I've learned that the entire sex industry is "seedy," sex is intimacy between a man and a woman, and if gays and lesbians were allowed to get married than "our" children would be scarred by seeing it as a normal, okay relationship.

    I hate school just a little more every semester.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lena
    Yeah. I'm taking a class about sex in society this semester. So far I've learned that the entire sex industry is "seedy," sex is intimacy between a man and a woman, and if gays and lesbians were allowed to get married than "our" children would be scarred by seeing it as a normal, okay relationship.

    I hate school just a little more every semester.
    Geez, where are you going to school?? There are certainly a lot of schools/universities in the country where you'd get exactly the opposite point-of-view.

    As for the thread itself and the laughing, I agree that it is a reaction to the feeling that sex is so intrinsically embarrassing or dirty that it is uncomfortable to even talk about it in public. Sadly, in the US at least, it is as though sex were a "bathroom activity" in the minds of many.

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    all right, i'm blonde, so please explain to me goldcoastgirl- what is the difference between legalisation and decriminalisation?

    and i agree that whoever started the laughing has a bit of growing up to do... but let's not go throw everyone in the class in the playpen. afterall, it feels good to just laugh- people tend to join in whenever they hear it, without thinking. but that professor- that's really a shame. i would have expected more from someone in that position.
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    Legalization would mean that it would become legal, and therefore regulated and subject to new laws. Decriminalization would simply be the removal of (or cessation of enforcement of) laws prohibiting prostitution.

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    Considering the highly controversial nature of all things sexual, this would be a huge hot potato. Things sexual are very slowly changing and someday in the distant future some version of legalized acceptance may get here. Too many religious zealots and other strongly influenced by them. It is a silly thing just to stand around and preach to the choir about this.

    I think that so many people seem to need prostitutes is a sad thing. Or are you taking a stand regretting that you cannot have more income from such a profession? Why cannot it just be a personal body service like many others -haircutting, massage, medical care?

    Personally I don't think there should be a need for prostitution. If most people would treat each other much better and with respect, as if we all were just trying to survive and have some hapiness, sexual activity would be much more available between people who were free to give that part of themselves. Do I expect that to ever happen? Are you kiddin'? Is this controversial? You bet! This is the good ole US of A.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    ah. well, then, i agree, decriminalisation is the way to go. unfortunately, that'll probably happen a few years after we elect the first black lesbian for president... *(~syghs~)*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan Wayward
    Legalization would mean that it would become legal, and therefore regulated and subject to new laws. Decriminalization would simply be the removal of (or cessation of enforcement of) laws prohibiting prostitution.
    Decriminalisation would mean that escorts can freely go about their business without the law forever breathing down their backs and having to resort to all sorts of tricks so LE doesn't "get" them. It would allow it to be more free-er and open. Yes there are positives and negatives to this it it just that there is inherently more freedom in decriminalisation compared with legalisation.

    Plus my theory is that decriminalising it will then be of assistance in keeping that type of activity out of the strip club as they then can easily set up shop themselves without retribution (or work within a brothel).

    Quote Originally Posted by threlayer
    Personally I don't think there should be a need for prostitution.
    It's called the oldest profession in the world for a good reason. As long as we are sexual beings and require/need/desire sex... there will always be those who will offer themselves in this capacity.


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    like with all black market stuff thatcomplain about the law
    create another means of exchange
    deny their money deny their law
    rightscant be dctated they must be declared
    let freedom ring
    wit a buckshot

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    Wow I am glad i brought this up. Thanks for the information. I will research more into decriminalisation for future knowledge. I take my stand simply because I admire women who work from escort establishments/incall/ outcall/ and so forth. I admire the women who only choose to work in these establishments, as opposed to masquerading theirselves as dancers when they clearly offer sex, oral sex, and handjobs.(I am aware of the fact that there are women who try to prostitute everywhere including the clubs) Still, I keep in mind the ones who do not. I do not see the need for raids,arrests, and trouble for these consenting adults. This time is more valuable elsewhere, imo. Basically I have a sensitive spot for other women who struggle with legal trouble/ridicules/ and stigmas for being in the adult industy. This was just a belief statement we had to make, so i did not need to back up info, but this thread helped me. I can do more research now for when it may be needed. Anyway, when the teacher laughed, i just figured it was because his area of focus was Communication studies(which is my major.) He is not used to hearing it, or even dealing with any information that may pertain to it i guess. I realized it could be a comfort factor as well. Although, i was still surprised at the laugh because i had just finished a class with a more serious type of teacher. With my Law/disorder in Literature class, this teacher focused alot on stereotypes, discrimination, unfair legal attempts... and so forth. It was great because there was not anything in her class that was censored/ridiculed. Funny because i had written a paper on Aileen Wuornos ( her, imo, unfair death sentence not the legalization of anything.) I argued for a life in prison sentence. Anyway, when i discussed issues regarding the paper, that teacher made reference to "prostitution being the oldest profession in the book" as well.

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    But what if you could get it for free? Like most women (I know they don't, but many could). I'n free-thinking here.
    Last edited by threlayer; 01-20-2006 at 07:02 AM.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    i agree with ppl on here, they laugh because they are uncomfortable- especially when it comes to their own sexuality. i noriced you posted you have a soft spot for troubled streetwalkers. here's a quote i found (not exact wording): 'yes, now that all the prostitutes are in jail while murderers, rapists and spousal abusers go free, isn't our world so much safer?' (sarcasm)

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    Yep, Mary...thats pretty much my mindset when it comes to that quote... I do not have all the ins and outs figured out in my argument, but I do have that soft spot indeed. There are many more harmful things to focus on in society. I understand that people do not want to witness women offering theirselves on the streetcorners. It just is not a nice/ natural thing for some people to think of or witness. On the other hand, most of these women who are being tricked and arrested, are pretty much going to be back out somewhere at some point regardless. Some form of regulation for prostitution could hopefully help the women,who are in their right minds, safely operate their work from establishments. If they choose to do this than so be it. As for the women who perhaps have drug problems, or issues that render prostitution as a decision that they would not make in their right frame of mind.... I am not really sure how help would be brought about for them....but jail is not the answer to this dilemma in my opinion.
    Layer, i am not sure what others think about the getting it for free issue. In my opinion, people have many different reasons for purchasing any type of service. Some people just get sex for free and others choose to pay...or hey if they do not choose to pay but need to... then it is there for them. It is fair exchange to me. Same goes for lap dances. I know many guys who get hot lapdances free all the time at parties.( And no not by me lol, but kegs and college ladies can=crazy at times) Some may choose to pay at a strip club and some may not. I see sex as the same way. Some pay some don't. There are so many factors that go into the decision to aquire adult services, specifically prostitution. These include the thrill of paying... a basic need for intimacy... As long as there is a market for it...why not let the ladies do it in peace. Just my opinion. I am looking up decriminalisation now , incase the teacher trys to pursue or ask more about our statements... but i do not think he is going to. I would like to shed some light on the uncomfortable laughs though. The first thing some of the class/teacher may think of when they hear the word prostitution will not be prostitution=sex=funny anymore. My opinions mostly stem from research on Wuorno's, and respect to the ladies who work out of establishments that do not include a strip club.

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    I have spent the past two years working as a prostitute/escort/whatever you want to call it. I have made the move to dancing in the hopes of only ever being touched by one man again as long as I live. But that is another story.

    When I work in NSW I am allowed to move freely. My agency can text me the time, place, etc with no worries. I can go to work in a parlour without fearing that any moment the Police will knock down the door and arrest us.

    However, when I work in Queensland at big events like Indy or the Sanctuary Cove Boat Show, there are so many laws that we have to follow. It is definately not legal in QLD. We hear of the PLA (Prostitution Licensing Authority) organising huge stings to catch girls out, and then we look out onto the street to see vandalism, assaults, robberies - and one has to wonder whether the law enforcement time would be better keeping the community safe, rather than trying to uphold the morality of its citizens.

    When I was at university I had to do a presentation about women's roles and I stood there in my 18 year old wisdom and I ranted to my peers about how strippers, porn stars and prostitutes are the scum of society - how they take women's liberation back fifty years. I wish I had my time again to stand up and tell people the real truth, and not just the truth you learn whilst living in your sheltered environ.

    The sex industry in today's society is something that definately needs to be addressed to all people, not just people in the industry.
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    I am sorry but I just can get off in a buisness transaction...
    Now a man or woman in a nice suit might get me going after a nice dinner and some casaul conversation

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    I experienced this in college -but I guess at a more personal level.

    In business & marketing. Our teacher brought us to the contemporary museum of art -there was a walk through exhibit that I found offense & ignorant. The artist had fake money hanging from the ceiling, pictures of war, pornography, money & politics all in the exhibit. I found it very ignorant. Later when the teacher was asking us about our personal opinions -I just sat & listened for a few minutes to my peers close-minded judgments & agreements w/ the artist. After they were done, then I spoke up. They all laughed & literally told me to shut up. Thankfully, the teacher said my opinion was just as correct & valid as theirs.


    But this is also coming from a student that went to a private college. When my "bitch" roommate told them what I started doing for a living to pay my bills (stripping) -I was written about on the boys bathroom wall. Thankfully, then again a dif teacher stuck up for me. People are stupid -especially, in large groups....

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    WOW..this is a old one & has some real characters...Mast & Venus were very funny from what I remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by threlayer View Post
    But what if you could get it for free? Like most women (I know they don't, but many could). I'n free-thinking here.
    Free sex for all men will never be a reality. Even if your sexual utopia were to happen, the females will still gravitate towards fucking the 'silverback' alpha-male, forcing the other males to pay-up in one way or another to get their turn.

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